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Hi,
I have a tiny site at www.casajac.org
I am using frames : top, left and main.
I see that my right border in the main frame is right-aligning correctly to
my top frame in Firefox but not in IE.
Q.1.Any ideas ?

Then I would like to validate the entire site.
I tried the W3 validator but found the responses rather complicated.
Q.2 Is there anything simpler out there ?

Q.3.
a. Is there any hope that Google will be able to reference the site ?
b. Have I made a mess of the tags ?
c. Will the fact that www.casajac.org is just an alias to
www.fransysco.net/casajac be a hindrance to getting a good PR ?
TIA
CSS Newbie
Jul 21 '05 #1
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in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets, CSS Newbie wrote:
Hi,
I have a tiny site at www.casajac.org
I am using frames : top, left and main.
I see that my right border in the main frame is right-aligning correctly to
my top frame in Firefox but not in IE.
Q.1.Any ideas ?
Don't use frames.
Then I would like to validate the entire site.
I tried the W3 validator but found the responses rather complicated.
Q.2 Is there anything simpler out there ?
Use http://www.htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/ with "Validate entire site"
Q.3.
a. Is there any hope that Google will be able to reference the site ?
Small. Get rid of frames
b. Have I made a mess of the tags ?
Not too much. But get rid of the frames.
c. Will the fact that www.casajac.org is just an alias to
www.fransysco.net/casajac be a hindrance to getting a good PR ?


Maybe. Especially as www.fransysco.net/ is just white page. Get rid of
frames.

Some documents that present problems with frames:

http://www.html-faq.com/htmlframes/?framesareevil
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9605.html
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20000109.html
http://www.htmlhelp.com/design/frames/usage/
http://www.htmlhelp.com/faq/html/frames.html
http://www.htmlhelp.com/design/frames/whatswrong.html
http://www.htmlhelp.com/design/frames/usage/bad.html
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/l_vajzo...eb/frames.html (don't work -
anyone has current address?)
http://www.iso.port.ac.uk/~mike/whynoframes.html
http://html.tucows.com/webmaster/int...framesbad.html
http://www.webcoord.unsw.edu.au/desi...earcheng2-Why-
2.html
http://www.rankwrite.com/framedsite.htm
http://www.gooddocuments.com/techniq...eframesbad.htm
http://www.html-faq.com/htmlframes/?framesearch

There is other reasons as well.
(list from alt.html faq.)

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Jul 21 '05 #2
On Sat, 7 May 2005 14:24:46 +0200, Lauri Raittila <la***@raittila.cjb.net>
wrote:
in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets, CSS Newbie wrote:
[ <http://www.casajac.org> ]

1. Don't use frames.
2. Get rid of frames
3. But get rid of the frames.
4. Get rid of frames.
and Some documents that present problems with frames:

http://www.html-faq.com/htmlframes/?framesareevil
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9605.html
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20000109.html
http://www.htmlhelp.com/design/frames/usage/
http://www.htmlhelp.com/faq/html/frames.html
http://www.htmlhelp.com/design/frames/whatswrong.html
http://www.htmlhelp.com/design/frames/usage/bad.html
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/l_vajzo...eb/frames.html (don't work -
anyone has current address?)
http://www.iso.port.ac.uk/~mike/whynoframes.html
http://html.tucows.com/webmaster/int...framesbad.html
http://www.webcoord.unsw.edu.au/desi...earcheng2-Why-
2.html
http://www.rankwrite.com/framedsite.htm
http://www.gooddocuments.com/techniq...eframesbad.htm
http://www.html-faq.com/htmlframes/?framesearch

There is other reasons as well.
(list from alt.html faq.)


ROFL Now let me guess at what the message is that you're trying to get
through ... :-)

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| weblog | http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/_private/weblog.html |
| webontwerp | http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/html/webontwerp.html |
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Jul 21 '05 #3
Message received.
I have taken your advice and glued my lenses to my eyebrows ...
But they wobble around a bit when I move my head.
But you're right ! The border alignment problem sure has disapeared.
(Most of the other stuff on the page has disappeared too ...)
I never thought I would be so simple.
Thanks.

CSS Newbie.



"Barbara de Zoete" <b_********@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
opsqen49gox5vgts@zoete_b...
On Sat, 7 May 2005 14:24:46 +0200, Lauri Raittila <la***@raittila.cjb.net>
wrote:
in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets, CSS Newbie wrote:


[ <http://www.casajac.org> ]

1.
Don't use frames.


2.
Get rid of frames


3.
But get rid of the frames.


4.
Get rid of frames.


and
Some documents that present problems with frames:

http://www.html-faq.com/htmlframes/?framesareevil
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9605.html
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20000109.html
http://www.htmlhelp.com/design/frames/usage/
http://www.htmlhelp.com/faq/html/frames.html
http://www.htmlhelp.com/design/frames/whatswrong.html
http://www.htmlhelp.com/design/frames/usage/bad.html
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/l_vajzo...eb/frames.html (don't work -
anyone has current address?)
http://www.iso.port.ac.uk/~mike/whynoframes.html
http://html.tucows.com/webmaster/int...framesbad.html
http://www.webcoord.unsw.edu.au/desi...earcheng2-Why-
2.html
http://www.rankwrite.com/framedsite.htm
http://www.gooddocuments.com/techniq...eframesbad.htm
http://www.html-faq.com/htmlframes/?framesearch

There is other reasons as well.
(list from alt.html faq.)


ROFL Now let me guess at what the message is that you're trying to get
through ... :-)

--
,-- --<--@ -- PretLetters: 'woest wyf', met vele interesses: ----------.
| weblog | http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/_private/weblog.html |
| webontwerp | http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/html/webontwerp.html |
|zweefvliegen | http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/html/vliegen.html |
`-------------------------------------------------- --<--@ ------------'

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