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Accessibility: Site check

Hi,
If anyone's got the time I'd really appreciate any feedback on the
accessibility of this site:
http://www.cata.co.uk/_index.a*sp
I've just re-programmed it to try and make it as accessible as
possible, and it would be really good to get some feedback, especially
from anybody using assitive technology.
Thanks,
Richard

Jul 21 '05 #1
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ri**************@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi,
If anyone's got the time I'd really appreciate any feedback on the
accessibility of this site:
http://www.cata.co.uk/_index.a*sp
I've just re-programmed it to try and make it as accessible as
possible, and it would be really good to get some feedback, especially
from anybody using assitive technology.
Thanks,
Richard

well, it is on the net and downloads nicely

the site looks nice (compliment), although there are some slight
differences in appearance in FF and IE.

gl
martin

Jul 21 '05 #2
ri**************@hotmail.com writes:
If anyone's got the time I'd really appreciate any feedback on the
accessibility of this site:

http://www.cata.co.uk/_index.a*sp
http://www.cata.co.uk/_index.asp
Where's that - coming from? Is it your news client or mine?
I've just re-programmed it to try and make it as accessible as
possible, and it would be really good to get some feedback, especially
from anybody using assitive technology.


Alt text is generally okay, but some images are missing it
(home_text.gif, for example) and some aren't brilliant (alt='map', for
example)

Try viewing it at a width narrow enough that the menu wraps -
840px/Galeon here. The top item of each submenu goes under the menu
header to the right and is only partially readable.

Also has a horizontal scrollbar at this width.

White text on yellow background has terrible contrast. I have good
eyesight and find it difficult to read.

Orange links on yellow background are even worse contrast. When you
say 'low contrast' you mean it, don't you...

'more' used repeatedly as link text. Won't work out of context.

Your other-language pages still have the <title> and navigation in
English. So it's a mixed language page and needs the appropriate lang=
attributes adding.

Looks okay in Lynx.

Table layout is going to be narrow-browser unfriendly.

<font> specified colour so risking background-foreground clashes.

It strikes me as retro-fitted accessibility, really. You have a set of
pages that are inaccessible and then a set of options to make them
more accessible. A bit of work could remove the need for someone to
think about it. For example, you have an extremely low-contrast site,
with a high-contrast option. I don't like reading either much. Better
to pick a colour scheme with decent contrast in the first place and
specify the colours in a way that makes it safe for someone to use
their own colours if they want. Likewise you can have expanded menus,
which look terrible, take up lots of space on the page (massive
horizontal scroll problem), and - since the existing menu is already
fairly accessible, degrading to a list of lists - isn't particularly
necessary.

Rather than trying to fix the problems with the existing design at
http://www.cata.co.uk/ (and you have done good work to clear out some
of them) by bolting on new designs, you'd probably be better
redesigning to fix them. I have a set of guidelines for accessible
visual designs at
http://www.dur.ac.uk/its/services/we.../visualdesign/

Oh, and don't claim DDA compliance. Only a court can decide that and
I'd hope you weren't keen to end up there.

--
Chris
Jul 21 '05 #3
Hi,

I'm not quite sure what's happened here - but some of your comments
seem to be refering to the current site, and some to the updated
version.

For instance: There are no 'more' links in the new version, there are
alt tags on everything and I don't use tables (except on 1 page) or
fonts.

I guess what must have happened is that you clicked on the home link at
some stage (this links to the current homepage, not the new one - it
won;t be a problem once the site goes live).

I take you point about the contrast - but it's a commercial site and
I'm just the HTML coder, not the client. That said I'm going to try
and convince them to change it.

As for claiming DDA compliance I think it's a fair claim to make.
After all, I do think we've made reasonable efferts to make the ste
accessible.

Jul 21 '05 #4
ri**************@hotmail.com wrote in message news:<11**********************@l41g2000cwc.googleg roups.com>...
Hi,

I'm not quite sure what's happened here - but some of your comments
seem to be refering to the current site, and some to the updated
version.

For instance: There are no 'more' links in the new version, there are
alt tags on everything and I don't use tables (except on 1 page) or
fonts.

I guess what must have happened is that you clicked on the home link at
some stage (this links to the current homepage, not the new one - it
won;t be a problem once the site goes live).

I take you point about the contrast - but it's a commercial site and
I'm just the HTML coder, not the client. That said I'm going to try
and convince them to change it.

As for claiming DDA compliance I think it's a fair claim to make.
After all, I do think we've made reasonable efferts to make the ste
accessible.

check out the following site
http://bobby.watchfire.com/bobby/html/en/index.jsp
you will be able to validate your page and it will provide a list of
things to change.
Jul 21 '05 #5

check out the following site
http://bobby.watchfire.com/bobby/html/en/index.jsp
you will be able to validate your page and it will provide a list of
things to change.


really nice, they claim to check sites according to the w3c guidelines
on accessability (http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/).

funny is that this w3.org site does not pass the bobby_test ! actually
*none* of the w3.org pages passes this test :)
Jul 21 '05 #6
in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets, Martin! wrote:
funny is that this w3.org site does not pass the bobby_test ! actually
*none* of the w3.org pages passes this test :)


That proves that at least one of following is true:
a) that W3 site is not perfectly accessible.
b) that WAI rules have some incorrect advice.
c) that Bobby is not perfect.

Of course, that is all common knowledge, and thus our finding is not too
funny. If W3 site would pass bobby test, that would be funny.
--
Lauri Raittila <http://www.iki.fi/lr> <http://www.iki.fi/zwak/fonts>
Utrecht, NL.
Support me, buy Opera:
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Jul 21 '05 #7
Lauri Raittila wrote:
in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets, Martin! wrote:

funny is that this w3.org site does not pass the bobby_test ! actually
*none* of the w3.org pages passes this test :)

That proves that at least one of following is true:
a) that W3 site is not perfectly accessible.
b) that WAI rules have some incorrect advice.
c) that Bobby is not perfect.

Of course, that is all common knowledge, and thus our finding is not too
funny. If W3 site would pass bobby test, that would be funny.


melt some of your arctic ice and allow yourself a laugh, it wont hurt you.
Jul 21 '05 #8

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