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browser compliance?

which browsers fully adopt CSS2 (and thus CSS1)?

zach

Jul 21 '05 #1
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in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets, Zach wrote:
which browsers fully adopt CSS2 (and thus CSS1)?


None. Never will.

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Lauri Raittila <http://www.iki.fi/lr> <http://www.iki.fi/zwak/fonts>
Utrecht, NL.
Jul 21 '05 #2
"Zach" <ne****@gmail.com> wrote:
which browsers fully adopt CSS2 (and thus CSS1)?


None.

Some have come close with CSS 2.1 (which actually contains less than
2.0) - Opera is closest, Gecko not far behind. IE supports most of CSS
1 but really not a lot of CSS 2.1

Steve

--
"My theories appal you, my heresies outrage you,
I never answer letters and you don't like my tie." - The Doctor

Steve Pugh <st***@pugh.net> <http://steve.pugh.net/>
Jul 21 '05 #3
hallo lauri,

ah such a pity, why can't W3C force all browsers to be fully compliant?

zach

Jul 21 '05 #4
how good does Firefox support CSS2?

zach

Jul 21 '05 #5
[Reconstructing the context...]

Zach <ne****@gmail.com> wrote:
which browsers fully adopt CSS2 (and thus CSS1)?

Lauri Raittila <la***@raittila.cjb.net> wrote: None. Never will.

Zach <ne****@gmail.com> wrote: ah such a pity, why can't W3C force all browsers to be fully compliant?


Because "force" doesn't work on the WWW? Oh, wait, that's a different
debate.
--
Darin McGrew, mc****@stanfordalumni.org, http://www.rahul.net/mcgrew/
Web Design Group, da***@htmlhelp.com, http://www.HTMLHelp.com/

"Advice is what you ask for when you know the answer but wish you didn't."
Jul 21 '05 #6
heh. hey rahul is cool dude, i see him on #emacs on freenode

zach

Jul 21 '05 #7
/Zach/:
heh. hey rahul is cool dude, i see him on #emacs on freenode


Hey, Zach, could you stop that insanity of yours!? You've already
been pointed - this is not a chat channel. Search for FAQs on
guidelines for posting to newsgroups. Please, don't reply on that
one to the newsgroup. If you want to reply - email me (my email
address is real, although I won't bother to answer you, most probably).

--
Stanimir
Jul 21 '05 #8
On 16 Feb 2005 14:12:24 -0800, "Zach" <ne****@gmail.com> wrote:
which browsers fully adopt CSS2 (and thus CSS1)?


None.

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Rex
Jul 21 '05 #9
On 16 Feb 2005 15:03:41 -0800, "Zach" <ne****@gmail.com> wrote:
why can't W3C force all browsers to be fully compliant?


Put that question forward to Bill Gates.

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Rex
Jul 21 '05 #10
I don't think it's too good at some things, don't remember what. But css
pages I've done in IE didn't look the same in Firefox, mainly boxes that
mattered a lot, so I quit my Foxfire experiments.

"Zach" <ne****@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:11**********************@l41g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
how good does Firefox support CSS2?

zach

Jul 21 '05 #11
Patrick wrote:

[top-posting corrected]
"Zach" <ne****@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:11**********************@l41g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
how good does Firefox support CSS2?
I don't think it's too good at some things, don't remember what.
It's very good at almost everything.
But css pages I've done in IE didn't look the same in Firefox,
mainly boxes that mattered a lot, so I quit my Foxfire experiments.


You do remember that IE is quite broken when it comes to "boxes" and
similar stuff. I would wager that Firefox was correct and IE was
wrong. You need to think "design for Firefox and fix quirks for IE."

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-bts
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Jul 21 '05 #12
"Zach" <ne****@gmail.com> wrote:
how good does Firefox support CSS2?


I already told you:
Some have come close with CSS 2.1 (which actually contains less than
2.0) - Opera is closest, Gecko not far behind.


Gecko (which is the rendering engine used by Mozilla, Firefox, Camino,
Netscape, etc.) supports most of CSS 2.1 but there are a few bits it
doesn't support and there's also all the stuff that's in 2.0 but not
in 2.1 that it doesn't support.

Steve

--
"My theories appal you, my heresies outrage you,
I never answer letters and you don't like my tie." - The Doctor

Steve Pugh <st***@pugh.net> <http://steve.pugh.net/>
Jul 21 '05 #13
"Zach" <ne****@gmail.com> wrote:
ah such a pity, why can't W3C force all browsers to be fully compliant?


"If you don't make your browser compliant we're not going to let you
attend any meetings" ?
"If you don't make your browser compliant we're going to refuse your
membership fee" ?

What could the W3C do to force the browser manufacturers?

Steve

--
"My theories appal you, my heresies outrage you,
I never answer letters and you don't like my tie." - The Doctor

Steve Pugh <st***@pugh.net> <http://steve.pugh.net/>
Jul 21 '05 #14
"Zach" <ne****@gmail.com> writes:
hallo lauri,

ah such a pity, why can't W3C force all browsers to be
fully compliant?


It has no Special Forces. Perhaps it should?

--
Jón Fairbairn Jo***********@cl.cam.ac.uk
Jul 21 '05 #15
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Steve Pugh wrote:
What could the W3C do to force the browser manufacturers?


They could trademark the name of the language.

Then anyone who falsely claims compatibility is abusing their
trademark.

I'm not necessarily saying this is a good idea - just that it's
a possible approach in principle.

Incidentally, someone should tell them that their page
http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2...W3C_Trademarks
is invalid (looks to me to be iso-8859-1 served out falsely as utf-8).
Jul 21 '05 #16
Patrick wrote:
I don't think it's too good at some things, don't remember what. But css
pages I've done in IE didn't look the same in Firefox, mainly boxes that
mattered a lot, so I quit my Foxfire experiments.


This almost certainly means that your code depends on errors in how IE
implements CSS.

This also means that your sites are excluding quite a few potential
visitors: do your clients know this?
Jul 21 '05 #17
hehe! MI-CSS!

zach

Jul 21 '05 #18

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