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Firefox print background image bug?

When I print my web page the background image shrinks severly when I
print from Firefox, but when I print in IE it cuts it like I would
expect it to. Is this a bug or is there a mistake in my code somewhere?

<--------------------------MY CODE----------------------------->

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<title>Untitled Document</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"
/>
<style>
#masthead{
margin:0 0 0 0;
padding:0 0 0 0;
background:#006633 url(images/secondary_mast.jpg) no-repeat center;
height:150px;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div id="masthead">&nbsp;</div>
</body>
</html>

Jul 21 '05 #1
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"ye*****@gmail.com" <ye*****@gmail.com> wrote:
When I print my web page the background image shrinks severly when I
print from Firefox, but when I print in IE it cuts it like I would
expect it to. Is this a bug or is there a mistake in my code somewhere?
Is "shrink to fit page width ticked" in FF's print prefs? You do know
that printing of bg images is disabled in most browsers, thus you can't
rely on it working for clients.
<--------------------------MY CODE----------------------------->


Please don't post code in the group, provide an url.

--
Spartanicus
Jul 21 '05 #2
I apologize for posting the code. I didn't know. Yes I realize that it
is disabled in most browsers. I have opted to turn printing of
background images on. Also, I have shrink to fit page width ticked in
FF also.

Jul 21 '05 #3
"Wile E." <ye*****@gmail.com> wrote:
I have shrink to fit page width ticked in
FF also.


Did you try it without?

--
Spartanicus
Jul 21 '05 #4
yes i have.

Jul 21 '05 #5
"Wile E." <ye*****@gmail.com> wrote:
yes i have.


You have what? The posting convention for this group is to use an
attribute line that states who you are responding to, below it you quote
small relevant bits of text and you put your reply beneath it.

Back to your problem, still no url that would allow us to check the
problem you are having.

--
Spartanicus
Jul 21 '05 #6
I'm sorry. Why must you keep informing me of the conventions for this
group? Maybe if you would direct me to a "read me first" or "rules for
this group" I would know all about the conventions and rules.
To the problem at hand...

http://learn.wisconsin.edu/testyer/

Jul 21 '05 #7
"Wile E." <ye*****@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sorry. Why must you keep informing me of the conventions for this
group?


Because you want help no?

--
Spartanicus
Jul 21 '05 #8
"Wile E." <ye*****@gmail.com> wrote:
http://learn.wisconsin.edu/testyer/


I've had it with those Google group posters, adding "X-Complaints-To:
gr**********@google.com" to my kill file.

--
Spartanicus
Jul 21 '05 #10
In article <11**********************@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>,
ye*****@gmail.com <ye*****@gmail.com> wrote:
When I print my web page the background image shrinks severly when I
print from Firefox, but when I print in IE it cuts it like I would
expect it to. Is this a bug or is there a mistake in my code somewhere?


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=237889 ??

--
John P Baker
Jul 21 '05 #11
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 20:59:09 +0000, Spartanicus <me@privacy.net>
wrote:
"Wile E." <ye*****@gmail.com> wrote:
http://learn.wisconsin.edu/testyer/


I've had it with those Google group posters, adding "X-Complaints-To:
gr**********@google.com" to my kill file.


Why not send your complaints to them as they're requesting them? That
will increase their support costs of google groups, forcing them to
invest more in educating their users in good behaviour.

Jim.
--
comp.lang.javascript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq/

Jul 21 '05 #12
ji*@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:
I've had it with those Google group posters, adding "X-Complaints-To:
gr**********@google.com" to my kill file.


Why not send your complaints to them as they're requesting them? That
will increase their support costs of google groups, forcing them to
invest more in educating their users in good behaviour.


I don't hold out any hope that it would make a difference given that
they've already replaced the old (better IIRC) interface with the "beta"
interface. That suggest that the consultation period has ended.

The posting conventions in the web authoring groups are afaik not the
norm, most groups afaik are more liberal regarding posting conventions.
That makes it hard to argue that Google's interface should default to
the rules that apply here.

Given the way Google groups currently works it's probably a bit much to
expect users to follow the posting conventions that apply here. I'm
guessing that they'd have to copy the text of the message they respond
to, manually type an attribute line, paste the original message below
it, manually insert the ">" quote prefixes, and then reply.

So instead of blaming users for what is more Google's fault I've added
Google groups to the other usenet web interfaces who's messages I
filter. The added benefit is that the messages from users who use a web
interface to usenet tend to be FAQs for help that I consider as noise.

--
Spartanicus
Jul 21 '05 #13
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Spartanicus wrote:
The posting conventions in the web authoring groups are afaik not
the norm,
The norm for which groups? There's a well-established netiquette for
the big-8 hierarchies, which includes comp.*. AFAICS, the c.i.w.*
groups don't ask for anything that isn't the established custom in the
big-8 hierarchies, and are, I'd say, relatively lax compared with e.g
some comp.lang.* groups.

But that doesn't mean there's no benefit in following netiquette
guidelines on other groups: just that people there are less likely to
step in and try to help someone who's considered to be misbehaving
(and more likely to just silently drop them into the killfile).
Given the way Google groups currently works it's probably a bit much
to expect users to follow the posting conventions that apply here.
That depends on what you mean by "expect". The netiquette isn't for
its own sake, but is a long-established collection of guidelines which
promote effective communication in this particular medium.

When visiting a new country, it's advisable to observe the natives for
a little while, and try to make a reasonable impression, don't you
think? A pity that Google have over-reached themselves and think they
can colonise the territory instead of fitting-in. Russ Allbery made
the classic response to that approach.
So instead of blaming users for what is more Google's fault I've
added Google groups to the other usenet web interfaces who's
messages I filter.


I'm not arguing with your conclusion, indeed.

all the best
Jul 21 '05 #14
"Alan J. Flavell" <fl*****@ph.gla.ac.uk> wrote:
When visiting a new country, it's advisable to observe the natives for
a little while, and try to make a reasonable impression, don't you
think?


No more ardent supporter of the posting conventions than myself I can
assure you. I just got tired of the number of malformed posts since the
new Google interface was launched. Asking users to mend their ways seems
unlikely to yield the desired result, requesting them to change the way
they reply can itself be considered noise.

--
Spartanicus
Jul 21 '05 #15

Spartanicus wrote:

[...]

No more ardent supporter of the posting conventions than myself I can
assure you. I just got tired of the number of malformed posts since the new Google interface was launched. Asking users to mend their ways seems unlikely to yield the desired result, requesting them to change the way they reply can itself be considered noise.


As a test, I'm replying to this message using google groups rather than
my usual news server and client.

It does appear that it is possible to reply to a message and have it
contain properly quoted text, but it is not immediately obvious how to
do so. Rather than using the default "reply" link when reading a
message, one must first use the "show options" link, then select the
"reply" link therein. This shows the quoted message in text box, in
which one can type or edit. Morever, other options available to actual
newsreaders become visible, such as the ability to add (or delete)
cross-posted news groups or to set a follow-up group.

Since google does have a mechanism for including quoted text, I do find
it rather curious that they have hidden this option in the default
reply mode.

Nick
--
Now we will see if google retains the space after the dashes in the sig
sep.

Jul 21 '05 #16
JRS: In article <ia********************************@news.spartanic us.ut
vinternet.ie>, dated Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:53:31, seen in news:comp.infosy
stems.www.authoring.stylesheets, Spartanicus <me@privacy.net> posted :
<--------------------------MY CODE----------------------------->


Please don't post code in the group, provide an url.


For those with off-line newsreaders, code in the group - if short - is
greatly preferable.

Note also that questions in the group are archived, so may be read
later; but material in URLs is not preserved in the same manner; thus it
may be impossible later to see the full question and relate it to the
answers offered.

URL, good : URL only, not good : long code here, not good.

--
John Stockton, Surrey, UK. ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v4.00 MIME
Web <URL:http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/tsfaq.html> -> Timo Salmi: Usenet Q&A.
Web <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/news-use.htm> : about usage of News.
No Encoding. Quotes before replies. Snip well. Write clearly. Don't Mail News.
Jul 21 '05 #17
Spartanicus <me@privacy.net> wrote in
news:00********************************@news.spart anicus.utvinternet.ie:
I don't hold out any hope that it would make a difference given that
they've already replaced the old (better IIRC) interface with the "beta"
interface. That suggest that the consultation period has ended.


Don't know how long it will last, or if it's true for
other 'country-specific' versions of Google, but
http://groups.google.ca/
still has the old interface :-)

--
Dave Patton
Canadian Coordinator, Degree Confluence Project
http://www.confluence.org/
My website: http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/
Jul 21 '05 #18
*Spartanicus* <me@privacy.net>:

The posting conventions in the web authoring groups are afaik not the
norm, most groups afaik are more liberal regarding posting conventions.
Well, de.*, i.e. the German speaking hierarchy, is pretty strict all over
and IMVHO benefits much from it. Even Microsoft acknowledges these rules:
<http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=fh;DE;NGNetikette>. I didn't find an
English equivalent of that document, but
<http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnwebgen/html/mailfaq.asp>,
concerning their mailing-lists, comes close.
That makes it hard to argue that Google's interface should default to
the rules that apply here.


They are good rules, though. I think they applied once to more or less all
of Usenet, but over time eroded in some parts of it.

--
"Censorship, like charity, should begin at home;
but, unlike charity, it should end there."

Clare Booth Luce
Jul 21 '05 #19
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005, Christoph Paeper wrote:
Well, de.*, i.e. the German speaking hierarchy, is pretty strict all
over and IMVHO benefits much from it.


das stimmt...

But see also http://www.usenet.org.uk/usenet-information.html

The UK hierarchy also aims to keep, generally speaking, to the
netiquette that was established in the main usenet groups.

There once was an FAQ for the microsoft.* hierarchy which firmly
promoted the same netiquette principles - but meantime, it seems to
have been overtaken by the hordes.

To which I can maybe quote
http://www.levkowetz.com/photos/2001...g/img_0124.jpg
Jul 21 '05 #20
*Alan J. Flavell* <fl*****@ph.gla.ac.uk>:

http://www.levkowetz.com/photos/2001...g/img_0124.jpg


Hm, not the village "Borg" I know, where the bio-waste of my native
Landkreis (county, district, ...) goes. (Actually there's a normal waste
dump and a composting plant there, both quite modern.)

In German, a "Borg" is also a castrated boar, by the way. (English:
"barrow", if my research is correct.)

F'up2 poster

--
Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity.
Jul 21 '05 #21
Well...thanks for the great solutions...NOT!

Jul 21 '05 #22

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