I hope someone may be able to help please!
Have a look at this site which I'm developing - http://tinyurl.com/6d4nr
As you will see if you look at it in IE6, the browser has completely screwed
the stylesheet and knocked the logo over too far etc. I've checked it out
in Mozilla, Netscape 7, Opera and Firefox and it's working fine.
Any ideas what I can do to get IE to work but then not to cause the other
browsers to get screwed?
Any help would be gratefully appreciated! :-)
Thanks in advance
--
IanUK
Hertfordshire, UK 15  8677 
IanUK wrote: I hope someone may be able to help please!
Have a look at this site which I'm developing -
http://tinyurl.com/6d4nr
Please don't post tinyurls to your site. Nobody knows where they
really lead, and may be reluctant to visit.
As you will see if you look at it in IE6, the browser has
completely screwed the stylesheet and knocked the logo over too far
etc. I've checked it out in Mozilla, Netscape 7, Opera and Firefox
and it's working fine.
Any ideas what I can do to get IE to work but then not to cause the
other browsers to get screwed?
I think the problem may be that you have used the keyword "body" in
your markup, and CSS, to indicate a content column. One of the
browsers interprets that as the <body> of the document.
Change <div id="body"> to something relevant, like
<div id="maincontent"> or other significant descriptive word, in your
HTML and CSS.
Add a DOCTYPE to the page and visit:
<http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A//homepage.ntlworld.com/i.anker/re/default.htm>
There are some errors.
Why stuff like this? Why not just put the menu on the page? http://homepage.ntlworld.com/i.anker/re/css/footer.js http://homepage.ntlworld.com/i.anker/re/css/date.js
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"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.*********@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:34*************@individual.net... IanUK wrote:
I hope someone may be able to help please!
Have a look at this site which I'm developing -
http://tinyurl.com/6d4nr
Please don't post tinyurls to your site. Nobody knows where they
really lead, and may be reluctant to visit.
Thanks for the feedback - sorry I didn't realise about TinyURLs. The actual
address is:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/i.anker/re/default.htm
As you will see if you look at it in IE6, the browser has
completely screwed the stylesheet and knocked the logo over too far
etc. I've checked it out in Mozilla, Netscape 7, Opera and Firefox
and it's working fine.
Any ideas what I can do to get IE to work but then not to cause the
other browsers to get screwed?
I think the problem may be that you have used the keyword "body" in
your markup, and CSS, to indicate a content column. One of the
browsers interprets that as the <body> of the document.
Change <div id="body"> to something relevant, like
<div id="maincontent"> or other significant descriptive word, in your
HTML and CSS.
I'll have a look at changing the div id="body" and then see if that works
and try the validation again.
Add a DOCTYPE to the page and visit:
<http://validator.w3.org/check?verbos....ntlworld.com/
i.anker/re/default.htm>
There are some errors.
Why stuff like this? Why not just put the menu on the page?
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/i.anker/re/css/footer.js
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/i.anker/re/css/date.js
The only reason I put the footer.js and date.js on is so that I can update
one file and then this will make changes across the whole of the site. Not
so crucial at the moment as this site is only three pages but could be more
important later on if there are more pages. Is there an accessible way of
doing this (or similar) but without resorting to javascripts?
Thanks again.
--
IanUK
Hertfordshire, UK
Beauregard T. Shagnasty <a.*********@example.invalid> wrote: IanUK wrote:
I hope someone may be able to help please!
Have a look at this site which I'm developing -
http://tinyurl.com/6d4nr
Please don't post tinyurls to your site. Nobody knows where they
really lead, and may be reluctant to visit.
Not to mention they time out, and as such are useless for archiving
purposes - one of the good features of Usenet.
"IanUK" <i.*****@ntlworld.com> writes: "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.*********@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:34*************@individual.net... Why stuff like this? Why not just put the menu on the page?
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/i.anker/re/css/footer.js
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/i.anker/re/css/date.js
The only reason I put the footer.js and date.js on is so
that I can update one file and then this will make changes
across the whole of the site. [...] Is there an
accessible way of doing this (or similar) but without
resorting to javascripts?
At least two: server side scripts and (for want of a better
term) local builds. Server scripts are only really necessary
for generating pages; if the content of the site is
essentially fixed, but you want changes to be consistent,
building it locally is more efficient. Use whatever
scripting language you like best and "make" (gnumake or
whatever) to convert your sources to html+css and upload it
to the server.
--
Jón Fairbairn Jo***********@cl.cam.ac.uk
IanUK wrote: "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.*********@example.invalid> wrote in
message news:34*************@individual.net...
Please don't post tinyurls to your site. Nobody knows where they
really lead, and may be reluctant to visit.
Thanks for the feedback - sorry I didn't realise about TinyURLs.
The actual address is:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/i.anker/re/default.htm
Ok...
I'll have a look at changing the div id="body" and then see if that
works and try the validation again.
Let us know.
.... Why stuff like this? Why not just put the menu on the page?
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/i.anker/re/css/footer.js
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/i.anker/re/css/date.js
The only reason I put the footer.js and date.js on is so that I can
update one file and then this will make changes across the whole of
the site. Not so crucial at the moment as this site is only three
pages but could be more important later on if there are more pages.
Is there an accessible way of doing this (or similar) but without
resorting to javascripts?
http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?Incl...ile_in_another
Check with your host about using SSI - server side includes. Makes it
very easy.
--
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Neal <ne*****@yahoo.com> wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty <a.*********@example.invalid> wrote:
IanUK wrote:
I hope someone may be able to help please!
Have a look at this site which I'm developing -
http://tinyurl.com/6d4nr
Please don't post tinyurls to your site. Nobody knows where they
really lead, and may be reluctant to visit.
Not to mention they time out, and as such are useless for archiving
purposes - one of the good features of Usenet.
That's a little besides the point for the purpose at hand. If I give a
URL for a page I've posted to the Internet in order to solicit some
help here, there's no reason for anyone to assume it'll still be there
a week from now, let alone that it will be an archive for the ages.
--
Harlan Messinger
Remove the first dot from my e-mail address.
Veuillez ôter le premier point de mon adresse de courriel.
Harlan Messinger <hm*******************@comcast.net> wrote: Neal <ne*****@yahoo.com> wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty <a.*********@example.invalid> wrote: Please don't post tinyurls to your site. Nobody knows where they
really lead, and may be reluctant to visit.
Not to mention they time out, and as such are useless for archiving
purposes - one of the good features of Usenet.
That's a little besides the point for the purpose at hand. If I give
a
URL for a page I've posted to the Internet in order to solicit some
help here, there's no reason for anyone to assume it'll still be
there
a week from now, let alone that it will be an archive for the ages.
Though it is true what you say, there are resources and sites to which
a normal URL is superior to a tiny one, but never the other way around
IMO.
Ive looked at your site in two browsers: IE6 (SP2) and Firefox, and apart
from the fact that everything is larger in IE, I can't see any significant
difference.
I'm looking at the site on my 1920x1200 screen (vast) and you get a vertical
bar 2/3 of the width from the left, with the text crossing it - obviously
not what you intended (but few people currently use such wide screens). The
difference you see may be due to the "magnification" of IE (I presume that's
something to do with IE's default font/size but I've never fathomed it - I
just take it as "different"). The different scaling may be triggering
wrapping behaviour which would be there if you shrank Firefox a bit. I'll
send you a screenshot (48K) separately of your site in Firefox, maximised on
my system.
I'm a bit dismayed to see your email address is in the clear. You may soon
be asking about spam filters (google for Brightmail, Spam Assassin,
SpamBayes and Spamihlator).
--
####################
## PH, London
####################
"IanUK" <i.*****@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:Dh**************@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net... I hope someone may be able to help please!
Have a look at this site which I'm developing - http://tinyurl.com/6d4nr
As you will see if you look at it in IE6, the browser has completely
screwed
the stylesheet and knocked the logo over too far etc. I've checked it out
in Mozilla, Netscape 7, Opera and Firefox and it's working fine.
Any ideas what I can do to get IE to work but then not to cause the other
browsers to get screwed?
Any help would be gratefully appreciated! :-)
Thanks in advance
--
IanUK
Hertfordshire, UK
In article <op**************@news.individual.net>,
Neal <ne*****@yahoo.com> wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty <a.*********@example.invalid> wrote:
(snip) Please don't post tinyurls to your site. Nobody knows where they
really lead, and may be reluctant to visit.
Not to mention they time out, and as such are useless for archiving
purposes - one of the good features of Usenet.
Actually, ones from tinyurl.com don't time out.
-- Mark
IanUK wrote:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/i.anker/re/default.htm
Just thought I'd mention that when I first looked at this, my brain read
"Restaurant ecoli". ish
:)
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Please reply to the group so everyone can share.
IanUK wrote:
The only reason I put the footer.js and date.js on is so that I can update
one file and then this will make changes across the whole of the site. Not
so crucial at the moment as this site is only three pages but could be more
important later on if there are more pages. Is there an accessible way of
doing this (or similar) but without resorting to javascripts?
The problem with javascript is that not everybody has it turned on, or
even available, in their browser. That's the downfall of client-side
scripting.
I personally prefer PHP although there are other scripting languages
like JSP or ASP.
Using PHP makes site changes much simpler. Change a function once, the
whole site is updated.
PHP generates most of the semi-static parts of a page: the header,
footer, banners, and especially the menus. For instance, the header
function receives the title string as an argument; everything else is
automatic.
The menu generator is where PHP shines for me. Usually there is one
small change in the menu for each page. The generator takes an argument
that makes the change for me. Poof! Custom menu for each page.
With all HTML pages I was having to update 10s of files every time I
changed a menu. Now it is just one file.
This has the worthy side-effect that your site's look is consistent for
all pages.
--
jmm dash list (at) sohnen-moe (dot) com
(Remove .AXSPAMGN for email)
Mark Carroll <ma***@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote: Neal <ne*****@yahoo.com> wrote: Not to mention they time out, and as such are useless for archiving
purposes - one of the good features of Usenet.
Actually, ones from tinyurl.com don't time out.
News to me, thanks.
Neal <ne*****@yahoo.com> wrote: Harlan Messinger <hm*******************@comcast.net> wrote: Neal <ne*****@yahoo.com> wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty <a.*********@example.invalid> wrote:
Please don't post tinyurls to your site. Nobody knows where they
really lead, and may be reluctant to visit.
Not to mention they time out, and as such are useless for archiving
purposes - one of the good features of Usenet.
That's a little besides the point for the purpose at hand. If I give
a
URL for a page I've posted to the Internet in order to solicit some
help here, there's no reason for anyone to assume it'll still be
there
a week from now, let alone that it will be an archive for the ages.
Though it is true what you say, there are resources and sites to which
a normal URL is superior to a tiny one, but never the other way around
IMO.
Saving people some the trouble of cutting and pasting a URL in pieces
when they try to give you a hand with something seems like a
worthwhile reason to me.
--
Harlan Messinger
Remove the first dot from my e-mail address.
Veuillez ôter le premier point de mon adresse de courriel.
Harlan Messinger wrote: Neal <ne*****@yahoo.com> wrote:
there are resources and sites to which
a normal URL is superior to a tiny one, but never the other way around
IMO.
Saving people some the trouble of cutting and pasting a URL in pieces
when they try to give you a hand with something seems like a
worthwhile reason to me.
Suggestions:
1. Get a better newsreader that won't mangle long urls
2. If you insist on using tinyURL, also post the original url so there's
no question where a link goes
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kchayka <us****@c-net.us> wrote: Harlan Messinger wrote: Neal <ne*****@yahoo.com> wrote:
there are resources and sites to which
a normal URL is superior to a tiny one, but never the other way around
IMO.
Saving people some the trouble of cutting and pasting a URL in pieces
when they try to give you a hand with something seems like a
worthwhile reason to me.
Suggestions:
1. Get a better newsreader that won't mangle long urls
I don't even know if my newsreader causes such a problem. I thought it
was caused by the reader's newsreader, not the sender. If the problem
*is* on the sender's end, then maybe a different newsreader would do
something else wrong instead. I could experiment until I found the one
newsreader that didn't do anything that no one objected to, but that's
not really practical.
Or, I could use a TinyURL for a one-time reference to a page that's
temporary anyway and causes no problems other than violating a dogma
that has grown from what, in a more limited context, is a useful piece
of advice.
2. If you insist on using tinyURL, also post the original url so there's
no question where a link goes
Would
"www.snarfly.com/tests/test3.asp?id=4&lang=en&sess=DLKJSDLFKHJSDLFKKJLS&p g=123987&rl=348293"
tell you anything more about "where a link goes" than a TinyURL
address?
You may respond, "Yes, at least I know I'm going to snarfly.com". My
response to that would be in two parts: (1) How do you know what's at
snarfly.com? It could start playing annoying music and flashing
banners, or bombard you with odious political propaganda, or load
spyware on your computer, just as easily as if I'd used a TinyURL to
send you there. (2) The question about where the link is going still
hasn't been eliminated, because as far as you know, snarfly.com could
also be a redirection. The only difference in that case between
snarfly and TinyURL is that you wouldn't know in advance that snarfly
is a redirection. If you're averse to redirections, and are indisposed
to clicking TinyURLs, then you really shouldn't click *any* links that
you don't recognize because they could send you somewhere else.)
--
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