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Any suggestions as to the best programs for cloaking email addresses?
Many thanks

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Jul 24 '05
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"Stan Brown" wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2005 13:50:38 +0100, Philip Ronan
<in*****@invali d.invalid> wrote:
If you really *must* have an email link on your site, you'll have to use
Javascript to disguise it. I've posted an example here:
<http://vzone.virgin.ne t/phil.ronan/scramble.html>


So much for sensible people who run with Javascript disabled, and
those in networks where Javascript is disallowed by policy.


Boo hoo. All those poor people...!

Just out of interest, what are they supposed to do when they visit
<http://oakroadsystems. com/about/index.htm#Conta ct>? Your email address
isn't clickable, so you're not helping anyone either. Or were you just
aiming for greater equality by ducking the email link issue altogether?

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http://vzone.virgin.net/phil.ronan/
Jul 24 '05 #21
Philip Ronan wrote:
"Bart Lateur" wrote:

Philip Ronan wrote:
I use a <NOSCRIPT> entity to
provide a readable version of the email address, so that's covered.


You make no sense to me at all. Please elaborate.


Is it really that complicated?

<SCRIPT type="text/javascript">

generateEmailLi nk();

</SCRIPT><NOSCRIP T>mail [at] example [dot] com<NOSCRIPT>


Do you *really* believe that it's any harder to detect and process this
(and its obvious variants) than it is to process an entity-encoded email
address? This is the equivalent of installing a solid-steel front door
with a dozen deadbolts while leaving your back door wide open!

Dave

Jul 24 '05 #22
Philip Ronan wrote:
"Stan Brown" wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2005 13:50:38 +0100, Philip Ronan
<in*****@inva lid.invalid> wrote:
If you really *must* have an email link on your site, you'll have to use
Javascript to disguise it. I've posted an example here:
<http://vzone.virgin.ne t/phil.ronan/scramble.html>


So much for sensible people who run with Javascript disabled, and
those in networks where Javascript is disallowed by policy.


Boo hoo. All those poor people...!


While it's notoriously difficult to get accurate numbers for the general
use of *anything* on the web, the info at
<http://www.thecounter. com/stats/> is interesting. For the past several
months about 5% of their visitors have had JavaScript disabled, and for
several months before that it was about 10%. That's a rather large
number of people to piss off unnecessarily.

Dave

Jul 24 '05 #23
"Dave Anderson" wrote:
Philip Ronan wrote:

</SCRIPT><NOSCRIP T>mail [at] example [dot] com<NOSCRIPT>


Do you *really* believe that it's any harder to detect and process this
(and its obvious variants) than it is to process an entity-encoded email
address? This is the equivalent of installing a solid-steel front door
with a dozen deadbolts while leaving your back door wide open!


Yes, *really*

Take a look at <http://www.google.com/search?q=%22at+ *+dot%22>, for example.
Plenty of false hits there.

Extracting entity encoded email addresses is trivial. I can do it with 5
lines of php:

<?php
$f = fopen("http://www.example.com/","r");
$html = fread($f, 0x8000);
$html = html_entity_dec ode($html);
$e = "/([^a-z0-9_\.\-])([a-z0-9_\.\-]+@[a-z0-9_\.\-]+)([^a-z0-9_\.\-])/i";
preg_match($e, $html, $matches);
?>

I'm not saying javascript makes things absolutely secure. I'm just saying
it's *more* secure. I don't understand why this is causing you problems.

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http://vzone.virgin.net/phil.ronan/
Jul 24 '05 #24
"Dave Anderson" wrote:
While it's notoriously difficult to get accurate numbers for the general
use of *anything* on the web, the info at
<http://www.thecounter. com/stats/> is interesting. For the past several
months about 5% of their visitors have had JavaScript disabled, and for
several months before that it was about 10%. That's a rather large
number of people to piss off unnecessarily.


Please explain why I'm pissing these people off.

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phil [dot] ronan @ virgin [dot] net
http://vzone.virgin.net/phil.ronan/
Jul 24 '05 #25
On Wed, 25 May 2005, Philip Ronan wrote:
So much for sensible people who run with Javascript disabled, and
those in networks where Javascript is disallowed by policy.


Boo hoo. All those poor people...!


If I was in business, I'd love to have competitors like you. I'm sure
I could make a decent living just calmly dealing with the discerning
customers that you managed to piss off.

Meantime you'll have the fun of dealing with those undiscerning
customers whose browsers are typically infected with several viruses,
some of which are collecting their credit card number keystrokes and
reporting them to hacker central. In the UK, at least, there's also
some fairly widespread trojans that establish dial-up connections to
premium phone numbers and clock up considerable phone bills for their
victims. Lots of fun for all the family. They of course never blame
themselves for falling for these infections, but their first reaction
is going to be to blame it on the web site that they're dealing with,
i.e yours. Enjoy.
Jul 24 '05 #26
"Alan J. Flavell" wrote:
If I was in business, I'd love to have competitors like you. I'm sure
I could make a decent living just calmly dealing with the discerning
customers that you managed to piss off.

Meantime you'll have the fun of dealing with those undiscerning
customers whose browsers are typically infected with several viruses,
some of which are collecting their credit card number keystrokes and
reporting them to hacker central. In the UK, at least, there's also
some fairly widespread trojans that establish dial-up connections to
premium phone numbers and clock up considerable phone bills for their
victims. Lots of fun for all the family. They of course never blame
themselves for falling for these infections, but their first reaction
is going to be to blame it on the web site that they're dealing with,
i.e yours. Enjoy.


ROTFLMAO :-D

As it happens, about 95% of the visitors to my site choose to use the
feedback form instead of the email link. I haven't been blamed for any
cataclysmic events so far, but thanks for the warning! I never realized
writing "dot" and "at" instead of "." and "@" could be so (*gasp*)
DANGEROUS!!!

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phil [dot] ronan @ virgin [dot] net
http://vzone.virgin.net/phil.ronan/
Jul 24 '05 #27
In article <BE************ ********@invali d.invalid>, Philip Ronan writes:
"Stan Brown" wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2005 13:50:38 +0100, Philip Ronan <in*****@invali d.invalid> wrote:
If you really *must* have an email link on your site, you'll have to use
Javascript to disguise it. I've posted an example here:
<http://vzone.virgin.ne t/phil.ronan/scramble.html>
So much for sensible people who run with Javascript disabled, and
those in networks where Javascript is disallowed by policy.

Just out of interest, what are they supposed to do when they visit
<http://oakroadsystems. com/about/index.htm#Conta ct>?
I just went there. The email address was easy to select with my
cursor. I then had no problem doing a copy'n'paste from my browser
to my email client. Are there any email clients that don't support this?
Or were you just
aiming for greater equality by ducking the email link issue altogether?


I don't think that there is any such thing as a standard-compliant
email link, is there?

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Jul 24 '05 #28
"Michael Stemper" wrote:
... <http://oakroadsystems. com/about/index.htm#Conta ct>

I just went there. The email address was easy to select with my
cursor. I then had no problem doing a copy'n'paste from my browser
to my email client. Are there any email clients that don't support this?


Jolly good. So that took you about 5 seconds, right? Perhaps it would have
taken another 3 seconds to change "at" and "dot" to "@" and "." in my web
page. Big deal.

But most of the visitors to my site can just click on a link to do this. It
takes them no time at all.
Or were you just
aiming for greater equality by ducking the email link issue altogether?


I don't think that there is any such thing as a standard-compliant
email link, is there?


What is your point?

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phil [dot] ronan @ virgin [dot] net
http://vzone.virgin.net/phil.ronan/
Jul 24 '05 #29
Philip Ronan wrote:
"Michael Stemper" wrote:
... <http://oakroadsystems. com/about/index.htm#Conta ct>

I just went there. The email address was easy to select with my
cursor. I then had no problem doing a copy'n'paste from my browser
to my email client.


Jolly good. So that took you about 5 seconds, right? Perhaps it would have
taken another 3 seconds to change "at" and "dot" to "@" and "." in my web
page. Big deal.


FWIW, I find having to copy/paste a plain text email address into my
mail client a very minor annoyance. I don't mind doing it if I really
want to contact someone, but having to edit it beyond that is just too
much trouble, not to mention prone to error. I'd just as soon forget
about it and go away.

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Jul 24 '05 #30

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