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Ok. I want to settle this once and for all. After looking at the source
for various, rather sizeable (but not all were so big) web sites that
use icons that show up in the addressbar beside the address itself.

Just about all websites that use said icons use one of these two methods
(some use both even) to make them appear (in the code of a webpage.) :

<LINK REL="icon" HREF="/icon.ico" TYPE="image/ico">
<LINK REL="SHORTCUT ICON" HREF="/icon.ico">

My question is this. Is one of these methods more correct (or standard)
? Is it better to use both, or jsut one of these? Is there maybe another
method??

Thank you.
Jul 23 '05 #1
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In comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html Crom said:
Ok,


no its not

What is the accepted way to share a message across multiple newsgroups?
http://smjg.port5.com/faqs/usenet/xpost.html
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Jul 23 '05 #2
"brucie" <sh**@usenetshi t.info> wrote in message
news:ln******** ******@usenetsh it.info...
In comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html Crom said:
Ok,
no its not

What is the accepted way to share a message across multiple

newsgroups? http://smjg.port5.com/faqs/usenet/xpost.html


Yes, If your server doesn't reject posts with more than 1 group in the
newsgroups line...
Jul 23 '05 #3
In comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html Crom said:
<LINK REL="icon" HREF="/icon.ico" TYPE="image/ico">
<LINK REL="SHORTCUT ICON" HREF="/icon.ico">

My question is this. Is one of these methods more correct (or standard)


the only standard is the correct syntax for the <link> element, other
than that its up to each UA what they want to do with it, if anything.

http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/...html#edef-LINK

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Jul 23 '05 #4
In comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html Crom said:
What is the accepted way to share a message across multiple
newsgroups? http://smjg.port5.com/faqs/usenet/xpost.html
Yes, if your news server didnt reject posts with more than one group in
the newsgroup line...


http://news.individual.net/
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Jul 23 '05 #5
"Crom" <xx**@yyyy.zzzz > wrote in news:cn******** **@news.astound .net:
"brucie" <sh**@usenetshi t.info> wrote in message
news:ln******** ******@usenetsh it.info...

[dont' multipost]


Yes, If your server doesn't reject posts with more than 1 group in the
newsgroups line...


A good point. You might be interested in the http://news.individual.net/
link which Brucie provided. It is a free Usenet service for access to many
non-binary newsgroups, permitting crossposting. Unless things have
changed, its sign-up system is midieval, though -- it required sending an
email to somebody, who a few days later would send an email in reply. I am
very thankful for its presence.

As for your current situation, most people do fine picking one group and
asking in there, especially when it comes to well-trafficked ones such as
these.
Jul 23 '05 #6
"Crom" <xx**@yyyy.zzzz > wrote in
comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html:
"brucie" <sh**@usenetshi t.info> wrote in message
news:ln******* *******@usenets hit.info...
In comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html Crom said:
> Ok,


no its not

What is the accepted way to share a message across multiple

newsgroups?
http://smjg.port5.com/faqs/usenet/xpost.html


Yes, If your server doesn't reject posts with more than 1 group in the
newsgroups line...


Then either get a better server or pick the ONE most appropriate
newsgroup. Don't waste the time of thousands of people for your own
convenience.

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Jul 23 '05 #7
In comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html Sam Hughes said:
http://news.individual.net/ Unless things have changed, its sign-up
system is midieval, though -- it required sending an email to
somebody, who a few days later would send an email in reply.


i think its practical rather than medieval. if it was auto it would be
too open to abuse. it may annoy people who are used to our instant
gratification society but tuff.

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Jul 23 '05 #8
Crom wrote:
<LINK REL="icon" HREF="/icon.ico" TYPE="image/ico">
<LINK REL="SHORTCUT ICON" HREF="/icon.ico">

My question is this. Is one of these methods more correct (or
standard) ? Is it better to use both, or jsut one of these? Is there
maybe another method??


Yes, another method (and the one I prefer, mainly because it's easy,
and also suppresses the icon to appear in file-not-found top ten lists)
is to create an icon called "favicon.ic o" and place it in the server
root folder.
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Jul 23 '05 #9
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004, Crom wrote:
Ok. I want to settle this once and for all. After looking at the source
for various, rather sizeable (but not all were so big) web sites that
use icons that show up in the addressbar beside the address itself.

Just about all websites that use said icons use one of these two methods
(some use both even) to make them appear (in the code of a webpage.) :

<LINK REL="icon" HREF="/icon.ico" TYPE="image/ico">
<LINK REL="SHORTCUT ICON" HREF="/icon.ico">

My question is this. Is one of these methods more correct (or standard)
? Is it better to use both, or jsut one of these? Is there maybe another
method??


That is NOT a choice between two methods. Those statements do different
things. There are TWO icons which are controlled.

The top line controls the graphic that appears next to the URL when actually
viewing the page. This is the one you are asking about.

The bottom line controls the graphic that appears in the favorites/bookmarks
listing next to the page/item name (taken from the title, but user changable).
You didn't ask about this one, and in many cases, it will default to be the
same as the first, but it is possible to have DIFFERENT graphics in the list as
compared to when viewing the page.

If one of these doesn't exist, then the "favicon.ic o" (default name) file may
be grabbed in place of the missing one [as mentioned in someone else's reply]
by the user's browser. The browser may look in the current directory or any
[accessible] directory above it, up to the document root, or it may look
nowhere, for such a file.
Jul 23 '05 #10

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