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Is there any way to make my transcripts of the DB2 certifications viewable for public ?

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Is there any way to make my transcripts of the DB2 certifications
viewable for public ?

Right now only I can view my scores , but I am unable to give an
access to let others view my scores... Is there any thing similar to
brainbench.. where you can make your transcripts as public viewable

Also the bad part with DB2 certifications is , they don't send a Hard
Copy :(
you can take a print out ... but printout doesn't seems genuine

Any help regarding my query is highly appreciated.

Thanks
Ashish Prasad

Jul 7 '07 #1
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Ashish wrote:
Is there any way to make my transcripts of the DB2 certifications
viewable for public ?

Right now only I can view my scores , but I am unable to give an
access to let others view my scores... Is there any thing similar to
brainbench.. where you can make your transcripts as public viewable
I don't think that anyone has access to the certifications database besides
the tester when taking the test, the proctor, and the admins of the
database. So the answer would be "no".

In fact, proctors are not allowed to communicate the scores to anyone else.
Therefore, I can't imagine that the database would be opened up in that
way.
Also the bad part with DB2 certifications is , they don't send a Hard
Copy :(
you can take a print out ... but printout doesn't seems genuine
I didn't like that change either. But then: paper certifications could also
be copied and adjusted, i.e. forged. Thus, hard copies were not better
than the soft copy you get today.

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Knut Stolze
DB2 z/OS Utilities Development
IBM Germany
Jul 8 '07 #2

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Thanks Knut

Jul 9 '07 #3

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How LAME is this?

An employer can't verify if you are DB2 certified?

Note, scores don't have to be published, IBM can set a pass fail mark.

Considering IBM is a software company, this is astonishing.

Either that or it shows IBM isn't serious about certifications.

I'm inclined not to believe this is a ruze and that IBM provides
something. Good one.

I don't think that anyone has access to the certifications database besides
the tester when taking the test, the proctor, and the admins of the
database. So the answer would be "no".
Jul 12 '07 #4

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gi*******************@yahoo.com wrote:
How LAME is this?

An employer can't verify if you are DB2 certified?
That's what you get the certificate for.
Note, scores don't have to be published, IBM can set a pass fail mark.

Considering IBM is a software company, this is astonishing.

Either that or it shows IBM isn't serious about certifications.

I'm inclined not to believe this is a ruze and that IBM provides
something. Good one.
Maybe there is a way that an employer could contact IBM and get the
confirmation on the validity of a certificate. But I do not know if and
how this process would work. Ask your IBM rep to get an official statement
on this topic.

I was responding based on my knowledge on how certifications are done. I am
a proctor (the person who supervises certification tests) for information
management certifications. In that role, I am not allowed to tell anyone
if a certain person has passed or failed a test and, thus, earned the
certificate or not. I can give an employer a summary like: X persons
attempted test Y and Z of them succeeded - but that's as far as it goes.
(And I wouldn't even do that if there were just a few persons tested.)

My guess is that there are legal implications in providing more details to
the employer. For example, I can imagine that an employee might face
negative effects in his job/career/salary if he/she failed a certification.
If IBM would make the specific results available to the employer, the
employee could possibly sue IBM. Given the US legal system, I see a huge
chance that IBM may be held liable. Things are different if the employee
himself/herself tells the employer, of course.
NOTE: IANAL (I am not a lawyer). This is just pure speculation - or an
educated guess - on the underlying reasons from my side.
If you want to have a programmatic way to retrieve certification results (as
in pass/fail or scores), I suggest you do what every serious customer would
do: grab some money and start talking to your IBM rep. Technically, it is
surely no big deal at all to implement such an interface.

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Knut Stolze
DB2 z/OS Utilities Development
IBM Germany
Jul 15 '07 #5

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Maybe there is a way that an employer could contact IBM and get the
confirmation on the validity of a certificate. But I do not know if and
how this process would work. Ask your IBM rep to get an official
statement
on this topic.

I was responding based on my knowledge on how certifications are done. I
am
a proctor (the person who supervises certification tests) for information
management certifications. In that role, I am not allowed to tell anyone
if a certain person has passed or failed a test and, thus, earned the
certificate or not. I can give an employer a summary like: X persons
attempted test Y and Z of them succeeded - but that's as far as it goes.
(And I wouldn't even do that if there were just a few persons tested.)

My guess is that there are legal implications in providing more details to
the employer. For example, I can imagine that an employee might face
negative effects in his job/career/salary if he/she failed a
certification.
If IBM would make the specific results available to the employer, the
employee could possibly sue IBM. Given the US legal system, I see a huge
chance that IBM may be held liable. Things are different if the employee
himself/herself tells the employer, of course.
NOTE: IANAL (I am not a lawyer). This is just pure speculation - or an
educated guess - on the underlying reasons from my side.
If you want to have a programmatic way to retrieve certification results
(as
in pass/fail or scores), I suggest you do what every serious customer
would
do: grab some money and start talking to your IBM rep. Technically, it is
surely no big deal at all to implement such an interface.

--
Knut Stolze
DB2 z/OS Utilities Development
IBM Germany
The company that administered my DB2 exams printed a copy of the score and
affixed their embossed seal on the paper. That and the certificate should be
sufficient.

Of course, I suspect that there are some people who pay others to take the
exam for them.
Jul 16 '07 #6

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Mark A wrote:
Of course, I suspect that there are some people who pay others to take the
exam for them.
If this happened, then the proctor screwed up. The proctor is responsible
to verify a picture ID of the person taking the test. Granted, such an ID
could be forged as well. ;-)

--
Knut Stolze
DB2 z/OS Utilities Development
IBM Germany
Jul 16 '07 #7

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Doesn't make sense Knut.

Using your, there shouldn't be a such thing as SOA actuarial
examinations, CFA exams, (and in the US) series 6 and series 7 exams,
CPA exams, state bar exams, the GMAT, the GRE, the SAT.

It makes sense that proctors shouldn't know, if it's a good
examination system the answers and the passing percentages have to be
examined.

The fact that the DB2 examinations are the way they are must make it
so that someone can get "certified" in a $2500 one week get-a-way at a
IBM sponsored event.

Also, the set up may reflect the fact that the certifications are so
simple that they aren't worth studying for.

Jul 17 '07 #8

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<gi*******************@yahoo.comwrote in message
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Doesn't make sense Knut.

Using your, there shouldn't be a such thing as SOA actuarial
examinations, CFA exams, (and in the US) series 6 and series 7 exams,
CPA exams, state bar exams, the GMAT, the GRE, the SAT.

It makes sense that proctors shouldn't know, if it's a good
examination system the answers and the passing percentages have to be
examined.

The fact that the DB2 examinations are the way they are must make it
so that someone can get "certified" in a $2500 one week get-a-way at a
IBM sponsored event.

Also, the set up may reflect the fact that the certifications are so
simple that they aren't worth studying for.
The DB2 exams are administered by 3rd party companies, and the personal id
verification they use is nothing like that of a CPA exam, etc.

The DB2 Fundamentals exam is relatively simple for most people who know SQL,
but the DBA certification exam is not so easy IMO. However, one thing that
might be considered is raising the passing score just a bit, which is now
fairly low. Also, get rid of those pesky questions about the health monitor
(a piece of junk IMO).

Also, only allowing one to take a particular exam only once every six
months. But the companies that administer the exams would not like that,
since they get paid for each exam taken.
Jul 18 '07 #9

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