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Cloudscape - usage of?

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Anyone using Cloudscape in production? Is it a viable platform or are IBM
just dreaming?

Apr 21 '06 #1
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news.ozemail.com.au wrote:
Anyone using Cloudscape in production? Is it a viable platform or are IBM
just dreaming?

Derby/Cloudscape is embedded in various IBM products including Websphere
(I think WAS).
Viable begs the question "for what?" It's embedded Java. It does not
really compete with mySQL or postgres or any of the big commercial vendors.
Derby is one step up from e.g. Sybase anywhere (mobile device) and one
step down from e.g. DB2 Express C (full function, optimizer, multi user,
....).

Cheers
Serge
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Serge Rielau
DB2 Solutions Development
IBM Toronto Lab
Apr 21 '06 #2

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Little more of what cloudscape is :
Cloudscape/Derby us used widely

http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/UsesOfDerby

Find more about derby from
http://db.apache.org/derby/index.html

* Derby has a small footprint -- about 2 megabytes for the base
engine and embedded JDBC driver (include the jar file in your java
application..you have fully functional database engine running inside
your application which need zero admin tasks)
* Derby is based on the Java, JDBC, and SQL standards.
* Derby provides an embedded JDBC driver that lets you embed Derby
in any Java-based solution.
* Derby also supports the more familiar client/server mode with the
Derby Network Client JDBC driver and Derby Network Server.
* Derby is easy to install, deploy, and use.
I have heard Derby handles database sizes more than 50 GB in size with
out much problems.

Some comparison between Open Source datbase performance from
http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/Us2...eSessionSlides
Derby outperforms MySQL on disk-based databases
----Derby has 100% higher throughput than MySQL
MySQL performs better on small main-memory
databases
----Update-intensive load: Derby has 20-50% lower
throughput
----Read-intensive load: Derby has 50% lower throughput
PostgreSQL performs best on read-only databases, and
has lowest throughput on update-intensive databases

Regards,
Kiran

Serge Rielau wrote:
news.ozemail.com.au wrote:
Anyone using Cloudscape in production? Is it a viable platform or are IBM
just dreaming?

Derby/Cloudscape is embedded in various IBM products including Websphere
(I think WAS).
Viable begs the question "for what?" It's embedded Java. It does not
really compete with mySQL or postgres or any of the big commercial vendors.
Derby is one step up from e.g. Sybase anywhere (mobile device) and one
step down from e.g. DB2 Express C (full function, optimizer, multi user,
...).

Cheers
Serge
--
Serge Rielau
DB2 Solutions Development
IBM Toronto Lab


Apr 21 '06 #3

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On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:50:36 +0800, "news.ozemail.com.au"
<pf*******@ozemail.com.au> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone
who said :
Anyone using Cloudscape in production? Is it a viable platform or are IBM
just dreaming?


It is also available as the open source Derby. That is probably the
more popular version.

see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/sqlvendors.html
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Apr 21 '06 #4

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Roedy Green <my******************************@munged.invalid > wrote:
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:50:36 +0800, "news.ozemail.com.au"
<pf*******@ozemail.com.au> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone
who said :
Anyone using Cloudscape in production? Is it a viable platform or are IBM
just dreaming?


It is also available as the open source Derby. That is probably the
more popular version.

see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/sqlvendors.html

Small update to your list. Cloudscape is now free and, as far as I can
tell, differs from Derby only in that the manuals have the IBM logo on
the cover and you can buy support for it from IBM. Sun have renamed it
Java DB and also offer paid support.
Apr 22 '06 #5

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"Roedy Green" <my******************************@munged.invalid > wrote in
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On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:50:36 +0800, "news.ozemail.com.au"
<pf*******@ozemail.com.au> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone
who said :
Anyone using Cloudscape in production? Is it a viable platform or are IBMjust dreaming?


It is also available as the open source Derby. That is probably the
more popular version.


Indeed.

During a Java course, several years ago, we have used Cloudscape as a simple
to use, easy to setup database.

I can't vouch for a production environment, but after what I've seen from
Cloudscape then, I'd say it's a pretty good database. Easy to use, it does
the job it's supposed to do etc... For small projects, it would be more than
adequate.

Just as long as you don't expect the speed or amount of handled data an
Oracle database (for example) would give you, you'll do fine.

Best regards,

JC
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Apr 22 '06 #6

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AMO
> I can't vouch for a production environment, but after what I've seen from
Cloudscape then, I'd say it's a pretty good database. Easy to use, it does
the job it's supposed to do etc... For small projects, it would be more
than
adequate.
JC


The Cloudscape database is used to power SonicMQ in a production
environment.
http://www.sonicsoftware.com/products/sonicmq/index.ssp
AMO

Apr 22 '06 #7

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