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DB2 V8 Fixpack 7 (akaV8.2)

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I just started downloading FP7 for DB2 V8 and happened to notice that
the file sizes for all flavors of FP7 are significantly smaller than
the corresponding FP6 file sizes. With all the new function in FP7
(Stinger) I was expecting FP7 to be much bigger than FP6. Are these
files correct or has something changed in the packaging of this FP.
Thanks.

Perry Shindle
BearingPoint, Inc.
Nov 12 '05 #1
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In article <4b**************************@posting.google.com >, Perry R
Shindle (sh*****@attglobal.net) says...
I just started downloading FP7 for DB2 V8 and happened to notice that
the file sizes for all flavors of FP7 are significantly smaller than
the corresponding FP6 file sizes. With all the new function in FP7
(Stinger) I was expecting FP7 to be much bigger than FP6. Are these
files correct or has something changed in the packaging of this FP.
Thanks.

Perry Shindle
BearingPoint, Inc.


Hi,

There's a empty file in the Windows FP7 directory:

DO_NOT_DOWNLOAD_FP7

so I guess we better not try to install it.
I did it, installed it but as you might have seen in a previous post
the fixpack doesn't seem to be complete.
Nov 12 '05 #2

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Gert,

Your problem seesm to be limited to DB2 PE. Is that what you downloaded?

Cheers
Serge
Nov 12 '05 #3

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The download of FP7 is good. It's presence will be published shortly.
Feel free to download and use it.

Cheers
Serge

Nov 12 '05 #4

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In article <uSFWc.69493$UYx.40804
@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>, Serge Rielau
(sr*****@ca.eye-bee-em.com) says...
Gert,

Your problem seesm to be limited to DB2 PE. Is that what you downloaded?

Cheers
Serge


Yes, that's the one I downloaded.
Nov 12 '05 #5

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OK, there'll be a technote on this soon.
From what I understand is that this is a DB2 V8 PE problem, rather than
FP7 specific.
There are two ways to get the two missing files I suppose right now.
One is to open a PMR, the other is to download another edition and copy
them over.

Cheers
Serge
Nov 12 '05 #6

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In article <41********@news3.prserv.net>, Serge Rielau
(sr*****@ca.eye-bee-em.com) says...
OK, there'll be a technote on this soon.
From what I understand is that this is a DB2 V8 PE problem, rather than
FP7 specific.
There are two ways to get the two missing files I suppose right now.
One is to open a PMR, the other is to download another edition and copy
them over.

Cheers
Serge


Do you know which files need to be copied and in which CAB file they
are?

TIA.

Kind regards, Gert
Nov 12 '05 #7

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Where is the HTML doc fixpack? Nice to know the new features.

SR> The download of FP7 is good. It's presence will be published shortly.
SR> Feel free to download and use it.

SR> Cheers
SR> Serge

Edward Lipson via Relaynet.org Moondog
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Nov 12 '05 #8

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Serge Rielau <sr*****@ca.eye-bee-em.com> wrote in message news:<41********@news3.prserv.net>...
The download of FP7 is good. It's presence will be published shortly.
Feel free to download and use it.

Cheers
Serge


Serge -

If all the FP7 images are good I still don't understand why they are
all significantly smaller than the corresponding FP6 images. Is FP6 a
pre-req for FP7?

Perry Shindle
Nov 12 '05 #9

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Perry Shindle wrote:
Serge Rielau <sr*****@ca.eye-bee-em.com> wrote in message
news:<41********@news3.prserv.net>...
The download of FP7 is good. It's presence will be published shortly.
Feel free to download and use it.

Cheers
Serge


Serge -

If all the FP7 images are good I still don't understand why they are
all significantly smaller than the corresponding FP6 images. Is FP6 a
pre-req for FP7?


No. You do not need FP6 before applying FP7. You can go directly from
8.1 to FP7 with no intervening fixpaks.

In FP7, much of the online help has been relocated from the base
products to the Documentation product. So it has been removed from the
fixpaks. This is a significant amount of savings for the fixpak.

If you do not install the Documentation product, the default should be
to go to the IBM websites to get the documentation - again, saving some
significant diskspace at the expense of some bandwidth (only when you
need it, unlike the diskspace which is used even if you don't need it
at that time).

To allow significant flexibility, you can install the documentation
inside your intranet, and then point all your admin clients to the
central documentation server - using your intranet bandwidth (which
should be cheaper/faster than internet bandwidth) at the cost of some
centralised diskspace. Or you can install the documentation locally
for the ultimate in speed at the cost of all that local diskspace (on
each machine that needs/wants it). All up to you. Of course this is
documented ... in the documentation. :-)
Nov 12 '05 #10

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Hi Edward:

If you want a local copy of the HTML documentation, look for the *DOCE*
package in the FTP platform directory of your choice (as long as that
platform is 32-bit Linux, Windows, AIX, Solaris, or HPUX). For example,
you can get the Windows documentation from
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/produc...21342_DOCE.exe

Dan

EDWARD LIPSON wrote:
Where is the HTML doc fixpack? Nice to know the new features.

SR> The download of FP7 is good. It's presence will be published shortly.
SR> Feel free to download and use it.

SR> Cheers
SR> Serge

Edward Lipson via Relaynet.org Moondog
ed***********@moondog.com el*****@bankofny.com
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Nov 12 '05 #11

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sqllib/bnd/sgSql.bnd
sqllib/function/db2sg.dll

and I have no clue which CAB file that is.

Cheers
Serge
Nov 12 '05 #12

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While I am impressed with the new functionality of 8.2 I am surprised
that 8.2 is also considered FixPack 7 for 8.1. I thought that
Fixpacks were not supposed to deliver extensive new features but fixes
to existing and minor enhancements. I am concerned because companies
do different types of testing on upgrades vs. fix packs.
Spencer
Darin McBride <dm******@naboo.to.org.no.spam.for.me> wrote in message news:<omUWc.208762$J06.137869@pd7tw2no>...
Perry Shindle wrote:
Serge Rielau <sr*****@ca.eye-bee-em.com> wrote in message
news:<41********@news3.prserv.net>...
The download of FP7 is good. It's presence will be published shortly.
Feel free to download and use it.

Cheers
Serge


Serge -

If all the FP7 images are good I still don't understand why they are
all significantly smaller than the corresponding FP6 images. Is FP6 a
pre-req for FP7?


No. You do not need FP6 before applying FP7. You can go directly from
8.1 to FP7 with no intervening fixpaks.

In FP7, much of the online help has been relocated from the base
products to the Documentation product. So it has been removed from the
fixpaks. This is a significant amount of savings for the fixpak.

If you do not install the Documentation product, the default should be
to go to the IBM websites to get the documentation - again, saving some
significant diskspace at the expense of some bandwidth (only when you
need it, unlike the diskspace which is used even if you don't need it
at that time).

To allow significant flexibility, you can install the documentation
inside your intranet, and then point all your admin clients to the
central documentation server - using your intranet bandwidth (which
should be cheaper/faster than internet bandwidth) at the cost of some
centralised diskspace. Or you can install the documentation locally
for the ultimate in speed at the cost of all that local diskspace (on
each machine that needs/wants it). All up to you. Of course this is
documented ... in the documentation. :-)

Nov 12 '05 #13

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Spencer wrote:
While I am impressed with the new functionality of 8.2 I am surprised
that 8.2 is also considered FixPack 7 for 8.1. I thought that
Fixpacks were not supposed to deliver extensive new features but fixes
to existing and minor enhancements. I am concerned because companies
do different types of testing on upgrades vs. fix packs.
Spencer
DB2 has traditionally done this type of thing - for example, the
upgrade from v5.0 to v5.2, or the upgrade from v7.1 to v7.2. New
functionalities are provided for no additional charge for existing
customers via the fixpak mechanism.

As for your testing concern - 8.2, aka FP7, has been undergoing
extensive testing pretty much all year, and into last year. For IBM,
this is release 8.2, and gets all the testing that a new release
entails. We just happen to also provide it as a fixpak to provide all
that tested technology to existing v8 customers at no additional cost.

I hope that helps.
Darin McBride <dm******@naboo.to.org.no.spam.for.me> wrote in message
news:<omUWc.208762$J06.137869@pd7tw2no>...
Perry Shindle wrote:
> Serge Rielau <sr*****@ca.eye-bee-em.com> wrote in message
> news:<41********@news3.prserv.net>...
>> The download of FP7 is good. It's presence will be published shortly.
>> Feel free to download and use it.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Serge
>
> Serge -
>
> If all the FP7 images are good I still don't understand why they are
> all significantly smaller than the corresponding FP6 images. Is FP6 a
> pre-req for FP7?


No. You do not need FP6 before applying FP7. You can go directly from
8.1 to FP7 with no intervening fixpaks.

In FP7, much of the online help has been relocated from the base
products to the Documentation product. So it has been removed from the
fixpaks. This is a significant amount of savings for the fixpak.

If you do not install the Documentation product, the default should be
to go to the IBM websites to get the documentation - again, saving some
significant diskspace at the expense of some bandwidth (only when you
need it, unlike the diskspace which is used even if you don't need it
at that time).

To allow significant flexibility, you can install the documentation
inside your intranet, and then point all your admin clients to the
central documentation server - using your intranet bandwidth (which
should be cheaper/faster than internet bandwidth) at the cost of some
centralised diskspace. Or you can install the documentation locally
for the ultimate in speed at the cost of all that local diskspace (on
each machine that needs/wants it). All up to you. Of course this is
documented ... in the documentation. :-)

Nov 12 '05 #14

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In article <41********@news3.prserv.net>, Serge Rielau
(sr*****@ca.eye-bee-em.com) says...
sqllib/bnd/sgSql.bnd
sqllib/function/db2sg.dll

and I have no clue which CAB file that is.

Cheers
Serge


Those files are not in any of the CAB files. When is the FP7 download
file for DB2 PE going to be updated?
Nov 12 '05 #15

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Darin McBride <dm******@naboo.to.org.no.spam.for.me> wrote in message news:<omUWc.208762$J06.137869@pd7tw2no>...

In FP7, much of the online help has been relocated from the base
products to the Documentation product. So it has been removed from the
fixpaks. This is a significant amount of savings for the fixpak.

If you do not install the Documentation product, the default should be
to go to the IBM websites to get the documentation - again, saving some
significant diskspace at the expense of some bandwidth (only when you
need it, unlike the diskspace which is used even if you don't need it
at that time).


given that sequential access diskspace is, likely, cheaper per megabyte
than bandwidth (and paid for once, not per access); it really does
look like a retrograde decision.
Nov 12 '05 #16

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I doubt it will be. It's NOT a FP7 problem. If you try the same on
V8.1GA it will (I'm told) fail in the same way). Updating a fixpack is
only an option for HIPER APAR's which this one obviously is not.
Dev is currently evaluating how to publish those two files.
Did you open a PMR? It should be easy to pass you those files.

Cheers
Serge
Nov 12 '05 #17

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In article <MscXc.33917$UTP.32016
@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>, Serge Rielau
(sr*****@ca.eye-bee-em.com) says...
I doubt it will be. It's NOT a FP7 problem. If you try the same on
V8.1GA it will (I'm told) fail in the same way). Updating a fixpack is
only an option for HIPER APAR's which this one obviously is not.
Dev is currently evaluating how to publish those two files.
Did you open a PMR? It should be easy to pass you those files.

Cheers
Serge


I doubt I can open a PMR after downloading the free Personal
Developers Edition :)

Why not put an extra download file on the ftp site?
Nov 12 '05 #18

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I did download DOCE, it is Eclipse or something. My Lab Advocate tells
me that the HTML doc will be uploaded Friday sometime as part of the
normal site maintenance. The PnLine doc is supposed to be updated with the
official release of 8.2, sometime in September.

DS> Hi Edward:

DS> If you want a local copy of the HTML documentation, look for the *DOCE*
DS> package in the FTP platform directory of your choice (as long as that
DS> platform is 32-bit Linux, Windows, AIX, Solaris, or HPUX). For example,
DS> you can get the Windows documentation from
DS> ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/produc...nIA32v8/fixpak
DS> /FP7_WR21342/FP7_WR21342_DOCE.exe

DS> Dan

DS> EDWARD LIPSON wrote:
DS> > Where is the HTML doc fixpack? Nice to know the new features.
DS> >
DS> >
DS> >
DS> > SR> The download of FP7 is good. It's presence will be published shortly.
DS> > SR> Feel free to download and use it.

Edward Lipson via Relaynet.org Moondog
ed***********@moondog.com el*****@bankofny.com
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MM 1.1 #0361
Nov 12 '05 #19

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robert wrote:
Darin McBride <dm******@naboo.to.org.no.spam.for.me> wrote in message news:<omUWc.208762$J06.137869@pd7tw2no>...

In FP7, much of the online help has been relocated from the base
products to the Documentation product. So it has been removed from the
fixpaks. This is a significant amount of savings for the fixpak.

If you do not install the Documentation product, the default should be
to go to the IBM websites to get the documentation - again, saving some
significant diskspace at the expense of some bandwidth (only when you
need it, unlike the diskspace which is used even if you don't need it
at that time).

given that sequential access diskspace is, likely, cheaper per megabyte
than bandwidth (and paid for once, not per access); it really does
look like a retrograde decision.


So, if you prefer to access the documentation locally, download the DOCE
package and install it locally (either once, on a single server within
your intranet to which you can point all of your clients, or on each of
your clients, or some mixture of both). The decision to make the docs
available from ibm.com, an intranet server, or from each client
workstation is a decision that gives you *choice*.

Dan
Nov 12 '05 #20

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