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database market share 2003

http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/040526/tech_...etshare_1.html

Interesting to see that database sales for windows is more than
Unix.
Nov 12 '05
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> > When IBM mainframes (or plug compatibles) already have 90% penetration
in
the Fortune 500 (in terms of accounts), how many new accounts are you
expecting?


None. It's called a monopoly. Something Reaganomics favored.

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Cheers
Nuno Souto


IBM became a monopoly on the mainframe platform long before Reagan was
president. Their biggest growth period was the 1960's and 1970's when there
were quite a few Democratic presidents, and when Democrats completely
controlled the House of Representatives , and usually controlled the Senate.
Nov 12 '05 #221
> > I never claimed that there were no DB2 to Oracle conversions. However
YOU
DID CLAIM that were no Oracle to DB2 conversions because you did not see any of them.


No. Stay within the Queen's language, please. I said there are very few
(if any) commercial app conversions AWAY from Oracle. What there is
is PORTING AS WELL to SQL Server and DB2. Perfectly kosher in anyone's
book and only you could come up with the derivation that it is
a "conversion from Oracle".

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Cheers
Nuno Souto


I understand English if that's what you mean. And below is what you said.
Retraction please.

"Funnily enough, I see NO ONE "porting" their apps to "something else". But
that must be an internal IBM "vision"... "

Nov 12 '05 #222
Mark A allegedly said,on my timestamp of 11/06/2004 11:21 PM:
IBM became a monopoly on the mainframe platform long before Reagan was
president.
And that "proves" Reagan did not favor IBM because?......
Their biggest growth period was the 1960's and 1970's when there
were quite a few Democratic presidents, and when Democrats completely
controlled the House of Representatives , and usually controlled the Senate.


And for that they copped it. And Reagan removed the restriction,
thereby ensuring it REMAINED a monopoly. That's what "favored"
means, BTW.

--
Cheers
Nuno Souto
wi*******@yahoo .com.au.nospam
Nov 12 '05 #223
Mark A allegedly said,on my timestamp of 11/06/2004 11:23 PM:
I understand English if that's what you mean. And below is what you said.
Retraction please.

"Funnily enough, I see NO ONE "porting" their apps to "something else". But
that must be an internal IBM "vision"... "


Nope. I stand by what I said. The apps that had to be ported to
other environments have been so. In the last 5 years or so.
And they happily run in SQL Server, DB2 AND Oracle.
Since then, nothing much anywhere.

As for anyone moving their in-house code FROM Oracle to DB2,
like I said: that is not porting, that is a conversion. And it
happens in ALL directions and for ALL products, not just one.
Not significant.

Ah yes, I've seen a lot of move away FROM Informix, that is
a fact. Unfortunately. But I'm sure IBM will find a way
of calling it DB2 as well. Real soon now. Then it will
all be alright and IBM will "increase" its market "share"....

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Cheers
Nuno Souto
wi*******@yahoo .com.au.nospam
Nov 12 '05 #224
Noons wrote:
Mark A allegedly said,on my timestamp of 11/06/2004 11:21 PM:
IBM became a monopoly on the mainframe platform long before Reagan was
president.


And that "proves" Reagan did not favor IBM because?......
> Their biggest growth period was the 1960's and 1970's when there
were quite a few Democratic presidents, and when Democrats completely
controlled the House of Representatives , and usually controlled the
Senate.


And for that they copped it. And Reagan removed the restriction,
thereby ensuring it REMAINED a monopoly. That's what "favored"
means, BTW.


Am not sure, what is monopoly? Is gaem for litle children yes? This work
with Infomrix how?

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Enor
Nov 12 '05 #225
Ian
Mark Townsend wrote:
If one submitts an article to IDUG or DBM Tech it is _mandatory_ to
clarify the applicability in the title if a talk is not cross-platform.

Here are session titles from this years IDUG Conferences - very few of
them cross platform, and not a single one with any sign of platform
applicability. I guess we need to differ of what _mandatory_ means as well.


You're being disingenuous.
Here's the information for 2 of these sessions (from www.idug.org).

D1: DB2 UDB V8 : Exploiting it's New Advancements in High Availability

Matt Huras
IBM Toronto Lab

Audience Experience: Intermediate,Ad vanced

Presentation Platform: DB2 for Linux, UNIX, Windows

Start: 10:30 AM
End: 11:40 AM

Room: Crystal C-D
Or:

G1: Query Optimization for Large Tables in V8

Terry Purcell
IBM Silicon Valley Lab

Audience Experience: Intermediate,Ad vanced

Presentation Platform: DB2 for z/OS

Start: 10:30 AM
End: 11:40 AM

Room: Grand IX & X


It's pretty clear to me which platform each presentation is for.

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Nov 12 '05 #226
In article <40************ ***********@new s.optusnet.com. au>, Noons
(wi*******@yaho o.com.au.nospam ) says...

crapcrapcrap... .

remarkably, the phrase is:

"as we use a single code base across the DB2 family"


???????

Roger: Many of the enterprise applications are using Java. V8 Java
support is more consistent across platforms as we use a single code
base across the DB2 family.

Nov 12 '05 #227
"Noons" <wi*******@yaho o.com.au.nospam > wrote in message
news:40******** **************@ news.optusnet.c om.au...
Mark A allegedly said,on my timestamp of 11/06/2004 9:00 PM:
I very much think so, having been on the receiving end of their
sales techniques for a looooooong time....


Sales techniques? Maybe you could explain your libelous statement in detail. I doubt very much that your were in a decision making postion anyway, which is what you are really complaining about.


Libelous was your mother!


Jocasta was my mother. But that's another story ...
Nov 12 '05 #228
Ian wrote:
Mark Townsend wrote:
If one submitts an article to IDUG or DBM Tech it is _mandatory_ to
clarify the applicability in the title if a talk is not cross-platform.


Here are session titles from this years IDUG Conferences - very few of
them cross platform, and not a single one with any sign of platform
applicability. I guess we need to differ of what _mandatory_ means as
well.


You're being disingenuous.


Well, only slightly. You really can't tell from the titles, as Serge
postulated was a mandatory requirement. And even with a seperate
categorization, some papers do seem to be mis-categorized, which I'm
sure is just finger trouble

C1: DB2 UDB Internals for Administrators : Complete with V8 Details
Matt Huras , IBM Toronto Lab

Speaker: Matt Huras, IBM Toronto Lab

Full Abstract: This presentation will give administrators the key
information they need to most effectively manage their installations. It
will provide the inside scoop on how DB2 on the UNIX, Windows and Linux
platforms works internally. Special focus will be given to the new
features in V8, including: type 2 indexes, multi-dimensional clustering,
the connection concentrator, null/default compression, dynamic memory
tuning, widened 64-bit support, and other V8 features.

Presentation Platform: Cross Platform

What is interesting is that at the Orlando event there are 82 papers
marked as OS/390, 53 as LUW(Ser), and 61 as Cross Platform. Do the
iSeries folk get their own conference, just not travel, or just not care
? So how much of the original market share numbers were attributable to
the iSeries platform again ?
Nov 12 '05 #229
"Andrew Hamm" <ah***@mail.com > wrote in message news:<2i******* *****@uni-berlin.de>...
Daniel Morgan wrote:

Then we can all get back to postings about things of import such as
Pink Floyd vs. Bach.
Couldn't we just do this anyway? Don't you all know the second law of
Usenet?

Arguing on the Internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you
win, you are still retarded.

I'm waiting to see who's going to be the first to lose the argument
according to Godwin's Law (first law of Usenet).


But this thread seems to be proving Garry's Paradox:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...&output=gplain

Take it offline or meet for a macho-cafe-latte-decaf-muggachino in a
Starbucks somewhere, so you can sort out this vital issue once and for all.

Is c.d.i destined to become a desolate wasteland of pointless arguments and
whingers pining for the good old days?


jg
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Nov 12 '05 #230

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