image reading

[vimal3271]

I want to know how to read image files in C.. what are the headers
that i should include? is there any tutorials regarding this ? pls
inform me.

[Richard Heathfield]

vi*******@gmail.com said:

I want to know how to read image files in C.. what are the headers
that i should include?

C doesn't directly support any particular image format (although one might
make out a case for XPM), but it's easy enough to open a file using fopen.
Then comes the fun part - working out which bit of the file means what.

is there any tutorials regarding this ?

http://www.wotsit.org has the specs on lots of file formats.

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[vippstar]

On Oct 6, 4:18 pm, [e-mail] wrote:

I want to know how to read image files in C.. what are the headers
that i should include? is there any tutorials regarding this ?

You can open files with fopen. You can read their data with various
functions, for example, fgetc, fread.
The headers that should be included depend on the functions you are
going to use.
Any decent C book will help you with all these.
I recommend K&R2.

pls inform me.

pls? Don't you mean please? Type the whole word, please.

[Richard Tobin]

In article <5a**********************************@c22g2000prc. googlegroups.com>,
<vi*******@gmail.comwrote:

>I want to know how to read image files in C.. what are the headers
that i should include? is there any tutorials regarding this ? pls
inform me.

You probably don't want to write this yourself. There are free
libraries available for the common formats like JPEG and TIFF, and
they should be fairly portable. Obviously displaying an image is
system-dependent, but just reading in the data is much less so.

Start by Googling for libjpeg, libtiff, libpng...

-- Richard
--
Please remember to mention me / in tapes you leave behind.

[viza]

On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 06:18:32 -0700, vimal3271 wrote:

I want to know how to read image files in C.. what are the headers that
i should include? is there any tutorials regarding this ? pls inform me.

Simple:

libgd http://www.libgd.org

Powerful:

libvips http://vips.sf.net

[Richard Heathfield]

vi******@gmail.com said:

On Oct 6, 4:18 pm, [e-mail] wrote:

>I want to know how to read image files in C.. what are the headers
that i should include? is there any tutorials regarding this ?

You can open files with fopen. You can read their data with various
functions, for example, fgetc, fread.
The headers that should be included depend on the functions you are
going to use.
Any decent C book will help you with all these.
I recommend K&R2.

Perhaps you could remind me which section of K&R2 deals with image formats?

--
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[vippstar]

On Oct 6, 6:20 pm, Richard Heathfield <[e-mail]:

[e-mail] said:

On Oct 6, 4:18 pm, [e-mail] wrote:

I want to know how to read image files in C.. what are the headers
that i should include? is there any tutorials regarding this ?

You can open files with fopen. You can read their data with various
functions, for example, fgetc, fread.
The headers that should be included depend on the functions you are
going to use.
Any decent C book will help you with all these.
I recommend K&R2.

Perhaps you could remind me which section of K&R2 deals with image formats?

OP mentioned image files, image files are just files.

[adam majewski]

vi*******@gmail.com pisze:

I want to know how to read image files in C.. what are the headers
that i should include? is there any tutorials regarding this ? pls
inform me.

For me the simplest image file is PPM. If you can create file you can
also read it.

==================
#include <stdio.h>
int main() {
const int dimx = 800;
const int dimy = 800;
int i, j;
FILE * fp = fopen("first.ppm", "wb"); /* b - tryb binarny */
fprintf(fp, "P6\n%d %d\n255\n", dimx, dimy);
for(j=0; j<dimy; ++j){
for(i=0; i<dimx; ++i){
static unsigned char color[3];
color[0]=i % 255; /* red */
color[1]=j % 255; /* green */
color[2]=(i*j) % 255; /* blue */
fwrite(color,1,3,fp);
}
}
fclose(fp);
return 0;
}

====================================
Look also :

http://fraktal.republika.pl/g_file.html
HTH

Adam

[Richard Heathfield]

vi******@gmail.com said:

On Oct 6, 6:20 pm, Richard Heathfield <[e-mail]:

>[e-mail] said:

On Oct 6, 4:18 pm, [e-mail] wrote:
I want to know how to read image files in C.. what are the headers
that i should include? is there any tutorials regarding this ?

You can open files with fopen. You can read their data with various
functions, for example, fgetc, fread.
The headers that should be included depend on the functions you are
going to use.
Any decent C book will help you with all these.
I recommend K&R2.

Perhaps you could remind me which section of K&R2 deals with image
formats?

OP mentioned image files, image files are just files.

On one level, yes, that's true - but if he just meant arbitrary files, he'd
have said so. He specifically mentioned image files, and it doesn't
require a genius to deduce that he wishes to do some kind of image
processing (even if it's only display), which means he's going to need to
be able to decode image formats. He realises this. I realise this. And I
suspect you realise this too. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous.

--
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Email: -http://www. +rjh@
Google users: <http://www.cpax.org.uk/prg/writings/googly.php>
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999

[jellybean stonerfish]

On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 06:18:32 -0700, vimal3271 wrote:

I want to know how to read image files in C.. what are the headers that
i should include? is there any tutorials regarding this ? pls inform me.

Well, it depends on which formats you need to open. Do you just want to
read the image files, or be able to display them.

You could try "Developer's Image Library" and write code to use it.

http://directory.fsf.org/project/DevIL/

Or for more open source image libraries, you could look here.

http://directory.fsf.org/category/ilibs/

stonerfish

[Antoninus Twink]

On 6 Oct 2008 at 16:29, Richard Heathfield wrote:

vi******@gmail.com said:
On one level, yes, that's true - but if he just meant arbitrary files, he'd
have said so. He specifically mentioned image files, and it doesn't
require a genius to deduce that he wishes to do some kind of image
processing (even if it's only display), which means he's going to need to
be able to decode image formats. He realises this. I realise this. And I
suspect you realise this too. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous.

Not so much fun when it's someone else playing the
deliberate-misunderstanding game, is it?

[vippstar]

On Oct 6, 7:29 pm, Richard Heathfield <[e-mail]:

[e-mail] said:

On Oct 6, 6:20 pm, Richard Heathfield <[e-mail]:

[e-mail] said:

On Oct 6, 4:18 pm, [e-mail] wrote:
I want to know how to read image files in C.. what are the headers
that i should include? is there any tutorials regarding this ?

You can open files with fopen. You can read their data with various
functions, for example, fgetc, fread.
The headers that should be included depend on the functions you are
going to use.
Any decent C book will help you with all these.
I recommend K&R2.

Perhaps you could remind me which section of K&R2 deals with image
formats?

OP mentioned image files, image files are just files.

On one level, yes, that's true - but if he just meant arbitrary files, he'd
have said so. He specifically mentioned image files, and it doesn't
require a genius to deduce that he wishes to do some kind of image
processing (even if it's only display), which means he's going to need to
be able to decode image formats. He realises this. I realise this. And I
suspect you realise this too. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous.

I mentioned what's possible within standard C.
If someone asks for arrays, I'll reply for C arrays; I don't care if
he was obviously asking for something else, ie arrays in computer
science et cetera.
That's for three reasons

1) One who gets replies quite different than what he expected, would
stop and think if he's asking in the right newsgroup. (especially
since someone would suggest that...)
2) One who searches comp.lang.c for arrays won't find replies to CS
arrays; he'll find replies for C arrays.
3) Replying for CS arrays would be off-topic; Telling him to ask in a
CS newsgroup would be misleading to those who search for arrays in
this newsgroup.

[vippstar]

On Oct 6, 8:09 pm, [e-mail] wrote:
<snip>

ie arrays in computer science et cetera.

^^ ^^ ^^^^^^

Whoops, that might piss those who know latin well... :-)

[Malcolm McLean]

<vi*******@gmail.comwrote in message news:

>I want to know how to read image files in C.. what are the headers
that i should include? is there any tutorials regarding this ? pls
inform me.

Basic Algorithms includes chapters on BMP, GIF and JPEG formats. Code is
free to download. However it is teaching code - the JPEG decoder won't
handle JPEG2 for example.
See website for details.

--
Free games and programming goodies.
http://www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm

[Richard Tobin]

In article <7d**********************************@d31g2000hsg. googlegroups.com>,
<vi******@gmail.comwrote:

>ie arrays in computer science et cetera.

>Whoops, that might piss those who know latin well... :-)

Why?

-- Richard
--
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[Richard Heathfield]

vi******@gmail.com said:

Richard Heathfield wrote:

>vi******@gmail.com said:

Richard Heathfield wrote:
vi******@gmail.com said:

<snip>

I recommend K&R2.

>Perhaps you could remind me which section of K&R2 deals with image
formats?

OP mentioned image files, image files are just files.

On one level, yes, that's true - but if he just meant arbitrary files,
he'd have said so. He specifically mentioned image files, and it doesn't
require a genius to deduce that he wishes to do some kind of image
processing (even if it's only display), which means he's going to need
to be able to decode image formats. He realises this. I realise this.
And I suspect you realise this too. To pretend otherwise is
disingenuous.

I mentioned what's possible within standard C.

Within standard C, it's possible to read all kinds of image formats in
useful ways that let you do productive image processing. Yes, you use
fopen and getc and so on to get the data into memory, but there's a lot
more to it than that. Whilst, strictly speaking, such questions are not as
topical as they perhaps might be, it doesn't do anyone any favours for you
to pretend you don't know what he almost certainly is really after.

--
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Email: -http://www. +rjh@
Google users: <http://www.cpax.org.uk/prg/writings/googly.php>
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999

[Malcolm McLean]

"Richard Heathfield" <rj*@see.sig.invalidwrote in message

Within standard C, it's possible to read all kinds of image formats in
useful ways that let you do productive image processing. Yes, you use
fopen and getc and so on to get the data into memory, but there's a lot
more to it than that. Whilst, strictly speaking, such questions are not as
topical as they perhaps might be, it doesn't do anyone any favours for you
to pretend you don't know what he almost certainly is really after.

You don't need a graphics card to do graphics. Some of the most
sophisticated rendering programs run on mainframe machines with teletype
style black and white terminals.

--
Free games and programming goodies.
http://www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm

[Richard Heathfield]

Malcolm McLean said:

>
"Richard Heathfield" <rj*@see.sig.invalidwrote in message

>Within standard C, it's possible to read all kinds of image formats in
useful ways that let you do productive image processing. Yes, you use
fopen and getc and so on to get the data into memory, but there's a lot
more to it than that. Whilst, strictly speaking, such questions are not
as topical as they perhaps might be, it doesn't do anyone any favours
for you to pretend you don't know what he almost certainly is really
after.

You don't need a graphics card to do graphics. Some of the most
sophisticated rendering programs run on mainframe machines with teletype
style black and white terminals.

Yes, absolutely. I've got a fairly hefty number of graphics processing
programs here, all written in ISO C.

The reason that graphics processing questions are mostly off-topic here is
not that they can't be written in ISO C - because very often they *can*.
But for the most part they are better directed to graphics programming
newsgroups. The ones that are topical here are those where the C code is
the issue (e.g. "here's my code for alpha-blending two images together,
but it seems to be falling over in the bit that reads the two files...,
can anyone help?", that sort of thing).

Nevertheless, even where such questions are not strictly topical, they may
very well form the basis for an interesting discussion with, perhaps,
topical aspects.

--
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[Bartc]

<vi******@gmail.comwrote in message
news:1f**********************************@y21g2000 hsf.googlegroups.com...

On Oct 6, 7:29 pm, Richard Heathfield <[e-mail]:

>Perhaps you could remind me which section of K&R2 deals with image
formats?

OP mentioned image files, image files are just files.

I mentioned what's possible within standard C.
If someone asks for arrays, I'll reply for C arrays; I don't care if
he was obviously asking for something else, ie arrays in computer
science et cetera.

So what's the difference between a computer science array and a C one?

--
Bartc

[Kenny McCormack]

In article <ka******************************@bt.com>,
Richard Heathfield <rj*@see.sig.invalidwrote:
....

>Yes, you use
fopen and getc and so on to get the data into memory, but there's a lot
more to it than that. Whilst, strictly speaking, such questions are not as
topical as they perhaps might be, it doesn't do anyone any favours for you
to pretend you don't know what he almost certainly is really after.

Irony meters all over CLC have just gone Poof!

[Richard Bos]

"Malcolm McLean" <re*******@btinternet.comwrote:

<vi*******@gmail.comwrote in message news:

I want to know how to read image files in C.. what are the headers
that i should include? is there any tutorials regarding this ? pls
inform me.

Basic Algorithms includes chapters on BMP, GIF and JPEG formats. Code is
free to download.

And free to use? You have no license on your website that I can find, so
anyone thinking about using that code in a commercial context _has_ to
decide against it. If that's not your attention, you should make that
clear - not here, but in the code itself.

Richard

[vippstar]

On Oct 7, 2:27 am, "Bartc" <[e-mail]:

<[e-mail] in message

news:1f**********************************@y21g2000 hsf.googlegroups.com...

On Oct 6, 7:29 pm, Richard Heathfield <[e-mail]:

Perhaps you could remind me which section of K&R2 deals with image
formats?

OP mentioned image files, image files are just files.

I mentioned what's possible within standard C.
If someone asks for arrays, I'll reply for C arrays; I don't care if
he was obviously asking for something else, ie arrays in computer
science et cetera.

So what's the difference between a computer science array and a C one?

You can point to one element past the last of an array in C. CS arrays
don't care about that.
It was an example anyway.

[vippstar]

On Oct 7, 12:22 am, Richard Heathfield <[e-mail]:

[e-mail] said:

<snip>

I mentioned what's possible within standard C.

Within standard C, it's possible to read all kinds of image formats in
useful ways that let you do productive image processing. Yes, you use
fopen and getc and so on to get the data into memory, but there's a lot
more to it than that. Whilst, strictly speaking, such questions are not as
topical as they perhaps might be, it doesn't do anyone any favours for you
to pretend you don't know what he almost certainly is really after.

You snipped the part where I explain why I chose to behave as if I
didn't know what OP is talking about.

[Richard Heathfield]

vi******@gmail.com said:

On Oct 7, 12:22 am, Richard Heathfield <[e-mail]:

>[e-mail] said:

<snip>

I mentioned what's possible within standard C.

Within standard C, it's possible to read all kinds of image formats in
useful ways that let you do productive image processing. Yes, you use
fopen and getc and so on to get the data into memory, but there's a lot
more to it than that. Whilst, strictly speaking, such questions are not
as topical as they perhaps might be, it doesn't do anyone any favours
for you to pretend you don't know what he almost certainly is really
after.

You snipped the part where I explain why I chose to behave as if I
didn't know what OP is talking about.

Whatever. Such behaviour is self-marginalising.

--
Richard Heathfield <http://www.cpax.org.uk>
Email: -http://www. +rjh@
Google users: <http://www.cpax.org.uk/prg/writings/googly.php>
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999

[Kenny McCormack]

In article <7e**********************************@w32g2000hsf. googlegroups.com>,
<vi******@gmail.comwrote:

>On Oct 7, 12:22 am, Richard Heathfield <[e-mail]:

>[e-mail] said:

<snip>

I mentioned what's possible within standard C.

Within standard C, it's possible to read all kinds of image formats in
useful ways that let you do productive image processing. Yes, you use
fopen and getc and so on to get the data into memory, but there's a lot
more to it than that. Whilst, strictly speaking, such questions are not as
topical as they perhaps might be, it doesn't do anyone any favours for you
to pretend you don't know what he almost certainly is really after.

You snipped the part where I explain why I chose to behave as if I
didn't know what OP is talking about.

This is just so funny, on so many levels.

[vippstar]

On Oct 7, 1:07 pm, Richard Heathfield <[e-mail]:

[e-mail] said:

On Oct 7, 12:22 am, Richard Heathfield <[e-mail]:

[e-mail] said:

<snip>

I mentioned what's possible within standard C.

Within standard C, it's possible to read all kinds of image formats in
useful ways that let you do productive image processing. Yes, you use
fopen and getc and so on to get the data into memory, but there's a lot
more to it than that. Whilst, strictly speaking, such questions are not
as topical as they perhaps might be, it doesn't do anyone any favours
for you to pretend you don't know what he almost certainly is really
after.

You snipped the part where I explain why I chose to behave as if I
didn't know what OP is talking about.

Whatever. Such behaviour is self-marginalising.

I tried to search for "self-marginalising", but the results I get from
dictionaries are definitions of the word marginalise, which don't
help. What do you mean?

Also, would you mind explaining these posts by you? Were you self-
marginalising as well, or is there something in those cases that made
you post what you posted?

Message-ID: <dv**********@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>
Message-ID: <01************************@eton.powernet.co.uk>

They appear similar to mine.

[Richard Heathfield]

vi******@gmail.com said:

<snip>

Message-ID: <dv**********@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>
Message-ID: <01************************@eton.powernet.co.uk>

They appear similar to mine.

Yes, they are. I've learned better since then. Can you?

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[jameskuyper]

[e-mail] wrote:

On Oct 7, 1:07 pm, Richard Heathfield <[e-mail]:

[e-mail] said:

....

You snipped the part where I explain why I chose to behave as if I
didn't know what OP is talking about.

Whatever. Such behaviour is self-marginalising.

I tried to search for "self-marginalising", but the results I get from
dictionaries are definitions of the word marginalise, which don't
help. What do you mean?

To marginalize something means to move it to the margins; in this
context, that implies that it has been rendered unimportant. The
concept behind this meaning is that center of something is more
important than it's margins. Saying that you are "self marginalizing"
means that you are rendering yourself unimportant.

[vippstar]

On Oct 7, 5:26 pm, Richard Heathfield <[e-mail]:

[e-mail] said:

<snip>

Message-ID: <dv3f5r$[e-mail]>
Message-ID: <01beef3e$135e23a0$[e-mail]>

They appear similar to mine.

Yes, they are. I've learned better since then. Can you?

I can learn better, but I'm not convinced. We're just disagreeing at
something.
I think, the next time, I'll reply with a similar post but perhaps
include a sentence dedicated to telling OP where to look for better
information, that should settle it.

[vippstar]

On Oct 7, 5:58 pm, [e-mail] wrote:

[e-mail] wrote:

On Oct 7, 1:07 pm, Richard Heathfield <[e-mail]:

[e-mail] said:

...

You snipped the part where I explain why I chose to behave as if I
didn't know what OP is talking about.

Whatever. Such behaviour is self-marginalising.

I tried to search for "self-marginalising", but the results I get from
dictionaries are definitions of the word marginalise, which don't
help. What do you mean?

To marginalize something means to move it to the margins; in this
context, that implies that it has been rendered unimportant. The
concept behind this meaning is that center of something is more
important than it's margins. Saying that you are "self marginalizing"
means that you are rendering yourself unimportant.

Ah, thanks.

[Richard Heathfield]

vi******@gmail.com said:

<snip>

I think, the next time, I'll reply with a similar post but perhaps
include a sentence dedicated to telling OP where to look for better
information, that should settle it.

I agree that helping the OP is better than not helping the OP.

--
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Email: -http://www. +rjh@
Google users: <http://www.cpax.org.uk/prg/writings/googly.php>
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[Kenny McCormack]

In article <db**********************************@m36g2000hse. googlegroups.com>,
<vi******@gmail.comwrote:

>On Oct 7, 1:07 pm, Richard Heathfield <[e-mail]:

>[e-mail] said:

On Oct 7, 12:22 am, Richard Heathfield <[e-mail]:
[e-mail] said:
<snip>
I mentioned what's possible within standard C.

>Within standard C, it's possible to read all kinds of image formats in
useful ways that let you do productive image processing. Yes, you use
fopen and getc and so on to get the data into memory, but there's a lot
more to it than that. Whilst, strictly speaking, such questions are not
as topical as they perhaps might be, it doesn't do anyone any favours
for you to pretend you don't know what he almost certainly is really
after.

You snipped the part where I explain why I chose to behave as if I
didn't know what OP is talking about.

Whatever. Such behaviour is self-marginalising.

I tried to search for "self-marginalising", but the results I get from
dictionaries are definitions of the word marginalise, which don't
help. What do you mean?

Also, would you mind explaining these posts by you? Were you self-
marginalising as well, or is there something in those cases that made
you post what you posted?

Message-ID: <dv**********@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>
Message-ID: <01************************@eton.powernet.co.uk>

They appear similar to mine.

It seems to me that a new RH has appeared on the scene. He appears to
have finally seen how stupid all this posturing is.

Or, to look at it another way: Once one person admits that there exists
this charade of "chosing to behave as if (i.e., pretending) I didn't
know what OP is talking about", it basically ruins it for everybody.
So here, vippy, you've ruined it for everybody. I think RH sees that
there's no point in this little charade anymore.

[Malcolm McLean]

"Richard Bos" <rl*@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nlwrote in message

"Malcolm McLean" <re*******@btinternet.comwrote:

><vi*******@gmail.comwrote in message news:

>I want to know how to read image files in C.. what are the headers
that i should include? is there any tutorials regarding this ? pls
inform me.

Basic Algorithms includes chapters on BMP, GIF and JPEG formats. Code is
free to download.

And free to use? You have no license on your website that I can find, so
anyone thinking about using that code in a commercial context _has_ to
decide against it. If that's not your attention, you should make that
clear - not here, but in the code itself.

No, no sensible commercial person would worry about such a thing.
Successful businessmen have an instinctive feel for when rules can be bent.

(However MiniBasic has a special licence).

--
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[Flash Gordon]

Malcolm McLean wrote, On 08/10/08 19:37:

>
"Richard Bos" <rl*@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nlwrote in message

>"Malcolm McLean" <re*******@btinternet.comwrote:

>><vi*******@gmail.comwrote in message news:
I want to know how to read image files in C.. what are the headers
that i should include? is there any tutorials regarding this ? pls
inform me.

Basic Algorithms includes chapters on BMP, GIF and JPEG formats. Code is
free to download.

And free to use? You have no license on your website that I can find, so
anyone thinking about using that code in a commercial context _has_ to
decide against it. If that's not your attention, you should make that
clear - not here, but in the code itself.

No, no sensible commercial person would worry about such a thing.

Hmm. So you are saying that no sensible commercial person has any
morals. Personally I think you are wrong and there are a lot of
commercial people who do have morals and are concerned with sticking to
licensing terms. There are also a lot who are too concerned about being
caught breaking the rules to break them.

Of course you could have just stated whether or not you permit use in a
commercial context.

Successful businessmen have an instinctive feel for when rules can be bent.

Better and more successful ones know when they don't need to be bent.

(However MiniBasic has a special licence).

By your argument that won't do you any good because business people will
ignore it.
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If emailing me use my reply-to address
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[Richard Bos]

"Malcolm McLean" <re*******@btinternet.comwrote:

"Richard Bos" <rl*@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nlwrote in message

"Malcolm McLean" <re*******@btinternet.comwrote:

<vi*******@gmail.comwrote in message news:
I want to know how to read image files in C.. what are the headers
that i should include? is there any tutorials regarding this ? pls
inform me.

Basic Algorithms includes chapters on BMP, GIF and JPEG formats. Code is
free to download.

And free to use? You have no license on your website that I can find, so
anyone thinking about using that code in a commercial context _has_ to
decide against it. If that's not your attention, you should make that
clear - not here, but in the code itself.

No, no sensible commercial person would worry about such a thing.
Successful businessmen have an instinctive feel for when rules can be bent.

It's successful businessmen like those who keep patent landsharks in the
big money.

Richard

[Nick Keighley]

On 8 Oct, 19:37, "Malcolm McLean" <[e-mail]:

"Richard Bos" <[e-mail] in message

<snip>

And free to use? You have no license on your website that I can find, so
anyone thinking about using that code in a commercial context _has_ to
decide against it. If that's not your attention, you should make that
clear - not here, but in the code itself.

No, no sensible commercial person would worry about such a thing.
Successful businessmen have an instinctive feel for when rules can be bent.

I think you are mistaken. Deliberate copyright infringement
seems like a pretty bad idea. Never mind the morality
there's the possibility of being sued or at the least
some nasty publicity.

(However MiniBasic has a special licence).

--
Nick Keighley

[Malcolm McLean]

"Flash Gordon" <sm**@spam.causeway.comwrote in message

Malcolm McLean wrote, On 08/10/08 19:37:

>Successful businessmen have an instinctive feel for when rules can be
bent.

>(However MiniBasic has a special licence).

By your argument that won't do you any good because business people will
ignore it.

No, successful business people also have an instintive feel for when rules
can't be bent. So MiniBasic has a licence that specifically permits passing
off the source code as your own, to cater for these people.

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