C++ For Win Or Visual C++ ???

[zippo!]

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How To programmin with C++ For windows Without MFC!

[Ron AF Greve]

Hi,

Just start a Win32 project or a complete empty project in Visual C++?

MFC is just a framework you certainly do not have to use it. You could also
use another framework for instance wxWidgets.
Regards, Ron AF Greve

http://www.InformationSuperHighway.eu

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anyone say to me !!
How To programmin with C++ For windows Without MFC!

[zippo!]

On Jul 31, 3:46*pm, "Ron AF Greve" <ron@localhostwrote:

Hi,

Just start a Win32 project or a complete empty project in Visual C++?

MFC is just a framework you certainly do not have to use it. You could also
use another framework for instance wxWidgets.

Regards, Ron AF Greve

http://www.InformationSuperHighway.eu

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anyone say to me !!
How To programmin with C++ For windows Without MFC!

so , which better ? Win32 Or MFC?

[Chris M. Thomasson]

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On Jul 31, 3:46 pm, "Ron AF Greve" <ron@localhostwrote:

>Hi,

Just start a Win32 project or a complete empty project in Visual C++?

MFC is just a framework you certainly do not have to use it. You could
also
use another framework for instance wxWidgets.

Regards, Ron AF Greve

http://www.InformationSuperHighway.eu

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anyone say to me !!
How To programmin with C++ For windows Without MFC!

so , which better ? Win32 Or MFC?

IMVHO, MFC == total CRAP.

[Ron AF Greve]

Hi,
I use MFC when I need a small dialog based app. For instance just to create
a simple applciations with a list checkbox etc.

When I am writing something large I'd rather do it from scratch. MFC
functions do not always what you expect (for instance data exchange also
creates the windows in controls) This sometimes takes quite some time to
'debug'. Also you are forced into certain applications. Also when you add
handlers yourself to the tables it is easy to screw up things and very hard
to make the whole wizard system work again (I must say that I am still using
Visual C++ 2003, so maybe things improved in 2008).

Although wxWidgets seems to be based on how MFC work I found that actually
easier to use.

The only drawback is that with a Win32 project you have to write more code
(but at least you know what is going on).

Just my personal opinion.

Regards, Ron AF Greve

http://www.InformationSuperHighway.eu

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On Jul 31, 3:46 pm, "Ron AF Greve" <ron@localhostwrote:

Hi,

Just start a Win32 project or a complete empty project in Visual C++?

MFC is just a framework you certainly do not have to use it. You could
also
use another framework for instance wxWidgets.

Regards, Ron AF Greve

http://www.InformationSuperHighway.eu

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How To programmin with C++ For windows Without MFC!

so , which better ? Win32 Or MFC?

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zippo! wrote:

On Jul 31, 3:46 pm, "Ron AF Greve" <ron@localhostwrote:

>Hi,

Just start a Win32 project or a complete empty project in Visual C++?

MFC is just a framework you certainly do not have to use it. You could also
use another framework for instance wxWidgets.

>>anyone say to me !!
How To programmin with C++ For windows Without MFC!

so , which better ? Win32 Or MFC?

IMHO, the Windows Template Library. Currently, I'm using MFC 9 only
because of the Feature Pack's cool new controls.

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[zippo!]

On Aug 1, 8:18*pm, Fernando Gómez <[e-mail]>
wrote:

zippo! wrote:

On Jul 31, 3:46 pm, "Ron AF Greve" <ron@localhostwrote:

Hi,

Just start a Win32 project or a complete empty project in Visual C++?

MFC is just a framework you certainly do not have to use it. You couldalso
use another framework for instance wxWidgets.

>anyone say to me !!
How To programmin with C++ For windows Without MFC!

so , which better ? Win32 Or MFC?

IMHO, the Windows Template Library. Currently, I'm using MFC 9 only
because of the Feature Pack's cool new controls.

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Can you get me Free Win32 Programming PDF book ?!

[Angus]

If you are new to C++ you should ignore frameworks such as MFC and learn the
basics first. Then as already suggested I would also recommend WTL.

If you are asking for a free C++ programming book ... I am really
questioning your commitment to what is a STEEP learning curve.
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On Aug 1, 8:18 pm, Fernando Gómez <[e-mail]>
wrote:

zippo! wrote:

On Jul 31, 3:46 pm, "Ron AF Greve" <ron@localhostwrote:

Hi,

Just start a Win32 project or a complete empty project in Visual C++?

MFC is just a framework you certainly do not have to use it. You could

also

use another framework for instance wxWidgets.

>anyone say to me !!
How To programmin with C++ For windows Without MFC!

so , which better ? Win32 Or MFC?

IMHO, the Windows Template Library. Currently, I'm using MFC 9 only
because of the Feature Pack's cool new controls.

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Can you get me Free Win32 Programming PDF book ?!