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How is the metadata for an assembly stored? (A) In .ini files
(B) As XML in the manifest
(C) As a Type Library (.tlb) file
(D) In the Registry
Jun 27 '08 #1
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va*********@gmail.com wrote:
How is the metadata for an assembly stored? (A) In .ini files
(B) As XML in the manifest
(C) As a Type Library (.tlb) file
(D) In the Registry
(a)

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http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32
Jun 27 '08 #2
In article <fu**********@aioe.org>, jacob navia <ja***@nospam.orgwrote:
>va*********@gmail.com wrote:
>How is the metadata for an assembly stored? (A) In .ini files
(B) As XML in the manifest
(C) As a Type Library (.tlb) file
(D) In the Registry
(a)
Where is the cadre of MS-hating:

Off topic. Not portable. Cant discuss it here. Blah, blah, blah.

when you need them?

Jun 27 '08 #3
Kenny McCormack wrote:
In article <fu**********@aioe.org>, jacob navia <ja***@nospam.orgwrote:
>va*********@gmail.com wrote:
>>How is the metadata for an assembly stored? (A) In .ini files
(B) As XML in the manifest
(C) As a Type Library (.tlb) file
(D) In the Registry
(a)

Where is the cadre of MS-hating:

Off topic. Not portable. Cant discuss it here. Blah, blah, blah.

when you need them?
Did you know?
..ini files are not used under windows since 1995...

Lazy students deserve what they get :-)

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jacob at jacob point remcomp point fr
logiciels/informatique
http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32
Jun 27 '08 #4
In article <fu**********@aioe.org>, jacob navia <ja***@nospam.orgwrote:
....
>Did you know?
.ini files are not used under windows since 1995...
I use INI files under Windows all the time.
Both "my own" and the "system" ones.
The API for them is quite useful and full-featured.
>Lazy students deserve what they get :-)
This time, Jacob, you've lost it.

History note: Jacob is trying to argue that "nowadays" it is all
registry and that INI files no longer exist. He is, as Heathfield would
put it, mistaken.

Jun 27 '08 #5
Kenny McCormack wrote:
In article <fu**********@aioe.org>, jacob navia <ja***@nospam.orgwrote:
...
>Did you know?
.ini files are not used under windows since 1995...

I use INI files under Windows all the time.
Both "my own" and the "system" ones.
The API for them is quite useful and full-featured.
>Lazy students deserve what they get :-)

This time, Jacob, you've lost it.

History note: Jacob is trying to argue that "nowadays" it is all
registry and that INI files no longer exist. He is, as Heathfield would
put it, mistaken.
If you have the microsoft SDK you will read in the documentation
for all this functions:

<quote>
Note This function is provided only for compatibility with 16-bit
versions of Windows. Applications should store initialization
information in the registry
<end quote>

And this since 1995
I still use them of course, and I used them a lot under linux...
I rewrote the API for linux. But under windows surely they are
obsolescent.
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jacob navia
jacob at jacob point remcomp point fr
logiciels/informatique
http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32
Jun 27 '08 #6
Kenny McCormack wrote:
>
In article <fu**********@aioe.org>, jacob navia <ja***@nospam.orgwrote:
...
Did you know?
.ini files are not used under windows since 1995...

I use INI files under Windows all the time.
Both "my own" and the "system" ones.
The API for them is quite useful and full-featured.
Lazy students deserve what they get :-)

This time, Jacob, you've lost it.

History note: Jacob is trying to argue that "nowadays" it is all
registry and that INI files no longer exist. He is, as Heathfield would
put it, mistaken.
He is, however, correct that "lazy students deserve what they get".

(And I don't know if his "did you know" falls under the same vein.)

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Jun 27 '08 #7
Kenneth Brody wrote:
Kenny McCormack wrote:
>In article <fu**********@aioe.org>, jacob navia <ja***@nospam.orgwrote:
...
>>Did you know?
.ini files are not used under windows since 1995...
I use INI files under Windows all the time.
Both "my own" and the "system" ones.
The API for them is quite useful and full-featured.
>>Lazy students deserve what they get :-)
This time, Jacob, you've lost it.

History note: Jacob is trying to argue that "nowadays" it is all
registry and that INI files no longer exist. He is, as Heathfield would
put it, mistaken.

You can't just say

"I think you are mistaken"

but you have to quote other people?

--
jacob navia
jacob at jacob point remcomp point fr
logiciels/informatique
http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32
Jun 27 '08 #8
On 23 Apr 2008 at 14:17, jacob navia wrote:
Did you know?
.ini files are not used under windows since 1995...
Really? I thought screensaver information, fonts, driver configuration,
etc. are stored in WIN.INI? Maybe I'm out of date...

Jun 27 '08 #9
Antoninus Twink wrote:
On 23 Apr 2008 at 14:17, jacob navia wrote:
>Did you know?
.ini files are not used under windows since 1995...

Really? I thought screensaver information, fonts, driver configuration,
etc. are stored in WIN.INI? Maybe I'm out of date...
Yes, well...

Do you tweak still your AUTOEXEC.BAT and your CONFIG.SYS?

Win.INI was obsoleted with windows 95. Some 13 years ago.
--
jacob navia
jacob at jacob point remcomp point fr
logiciels/informatique
http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32
Jun 27 '08 #10
On 23 Apr 2008 at 20:27, jacob navia wrote:
Antoninus Twink wrote:
>Really? I thought screensaver information, fonts, driver configuration,
etc. are stored in WIN.INI? Maybe I'm out of date...

Yes, well...

Do you tweak still your AUTOEXEC.BAT and your CONFIG.SYS?

Win.INI was obsoleted with windows 95. Some 13 years ago.
Interesting!

Yes, it's been a while since I used Windows... There must be a
replacement for autoexec.bat, though - how do you control which programs
run at startup nowadays?

I guess for the .ini files, programs now use their own ini file rather
than storing their settings in win.ini - I remember the 64K limit was
always a worry.

Jun 27 '08 #11
In article <fu**********@aioe.org>, jacob navia <ja***@nospam.orgwrote:

[re: Windows]
>Yes, well...
>Do you tweak still your AUTOEXEC.BAT and your CONFIG.SYS?
[OT]

Yes, both.
--
"MAMA: Oh--So now it's life. Money is life. Once upon a time freedom
used to be life--now it's money. I guess the world really do change.
WALTER: No--it was always money, Mama. We just didn't know about it."
-- Lorraine Hansberry
Jun 27 '08 #12
Walter Roberson said:
In article <fu**********@aioe.org>, jacob navia <ja***@nospam.org>
wrote:

[re: Windows]
>>Yes, well...
>>Do you tweak still your AUTOEXEC.BAT and your CONFIG.SYS?

[OT]

Yes, both.
Likewise - sometimes. Not terribly often, it's true - but whenever
necessary.

X's assumption (for any X who no longer uses Y) that nobody uses Y any more
is almost invariably a false assumption. For any given problem, people
change from one solution to another only when the overall cost of the
change is less than the cost of staying with what they already have - and
different people take different factors into account when assessing cost
and risk, which is why it's possible for two rational people, facing the
same upgrade decision, each to make that decision rationally and
intelligently and yet for their choices to differ from each other.

There is value in cultural - and computational - diversity. Those who mock
it don't really understand it.

--
Richard Heathfield <http://www.cpax.org.uk>
Email: -http://www. +rjh@
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Jun 27 '08 #13
ro******@ibd.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca (Walter Roberson) writes:
In article <fu**********@aioe.org>, jacob navia <ja***@nospam.orgwrote:

[re: Windows]
>>Yes, well...
>>Do you tweak still your AUTOEXEC.BAT and your CONFIG.SYS?

[OT]

Yes, both.
What is "[OT]"? Something to do with Vista?
Jun 27 '08 #14
In article <sl*******************@nospam.invalid>,
Antoninus Twink <no****@nospam.invalidwrote:
>On 23 Apr 2008 at 14:17, jacob navia wrote:
>Did you know?
.ini files are not used under windows since 1995...

Really? I thought screensaver information, fonts, driver configuration,
etc. are stored in WIN.INI? Maybe I'm out of date...
Yes. True. Granted, the contents of WIN.INI and SYSTEM.INI are not as
extensive as they used to be, and Jacob is right in the implication that
since Win95, the trend has been towards using the registry more.

However, and this is a big however, the APIs still exist and lots of
applications still use them. The INI file is a very useful format
precisely because it is pure ASCII and can be edited and processed using
ordinary tools.

That's the thing about Jacob's posts - he is right in principle, but
wrong in particulars. Since we deal in particulars here, there's always
room to nitpick him.

Jun 27 '08 #15
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:36:32 +0200, Antoninus Twink wrote:
Yes, it's been a while since I used Windows... There must be a
replacement for autoexec.bat, though - how do you control which programs
run at startup nowadays?
Registry. There is also some directory where you drop shortcuts, but I
can't remember where it is... it's been years since I've even owned a
computer with Windows installed.

This is rather off topic though
Jun 27 '08 #16
Richard wrote, On 23/04/08 22:01:
ro******@ibd.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca (Walter Roberson) writes:
>In article <fu**********@aioe.org>, jacob navia <ja***@nospam.orgwrote:

[re: Windows]
>>Yes, well...
Do you tweak still your AUTOEXEC.BAT and your CONFIG.SYS?
[OT]

Yes, both.

What is "[OT]"? Something to do with Vista?
This entire thread is Off Topic. I'm sure that it would be topical on
one of the Windows groups though.
--
Flash Gordon
Jun 27 '08 #17
va*********@gmail.com wrote:
How is the metadata for an assembly stored? (A) In .ini files
(B) As XML in the manifest
(C) As a Type Library (.tlb) file
(D) In the Registry
(E) None of the above.

The systems that I normally use do not have any of (A)-(D), and thus
obviously does not store any metadata (or anything else) in any of them.

Other systems might do things differently.

--
<Insert your favourite quote here.>
Erik Trulsson
er******@student.uu.se
Jun 27 '08 #18
In article <62**********************************@p25g2000hsf. googlegroups.com>,
<va*********@gmail.comwrote:
>How is the metadata for an assembly stored? (A) In .ini files
(B) As XML in the manifest
(C) As a Type Library (.tlb) file
(D) In the Registry
What is an "assembly"? What is "metadata"? If you could point out
the sections of the C standards that mention these, then I might
be able to answer the question.
--
"Allegories are in the realm of thoughts, what ruins are in
the realm of things." -- Walter Benjamin
Jun 27 '08 #19
On 24 Apr 2008 at 18:44, Walter Roberson wrote:
In article <62**********************************@p25g2000hsf. googlegroups.com>,
<va*********@gmail.comwrote:
>>How is the metadata for an assembly stored? (A) In .ini files
(B) As XML in the manifest
(C) As a Type Library (.tlb) file
(D) In the Registry

What is an "assembly"? What is "metadata"?
I believe an assembly is a Windows-specific bytecode produced by
Microsoft's C# language. There's a Wikipedia entry here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_assembly

Presumbably the metadata is ".Net metadata" as described here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_metadata

Jacob can probably give you more information.

Jun 27 '08 #20

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