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DevC++ or Mingw newsgroup?

Does anyone know of a newsgroup appropriate for discussing DevC++? I
looked for a Dev C++ newsgroup and mingw newsgroup but couldn't find one.

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Jim Langston
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Jun 27 '08 #1
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On 19 huhti, 04:38, "Jim Langston" <tazmas...@rocketmail.comwrote:
Does anyone know of a newsgroup appropriate for discussing DevC++?
There is an official forum, but let's just say that DevC++ has
not been developed in years. I don't know what is going on, but
I guess it's a typical almost abandoned open source project.
Also I had the feeling that authors really don't want to listen
what users have to say about DevC++. Again, it's accepted
behaviour because open source, but doesn't really help DevC++
become a better developer tool.
Jun 27 '08 #2
Krice wrote:
On 19 huhti, 04:38, "Jim Langston" <tazmas...@rocketmail.comwrote:
> Does anyone know of a newsgroup appropriate for discussing DevC++?

There is an official forum, but let's just say that DevC++ has
not been developed in years. I don't know what is going on, but
I guess it's a typical almost abandoned open source project.
Also I had the feeling that authors really don't want to listen
what users have to say about DevC++. Again, it's accepted
behaviour because open source, but doesn't really help DevC++
become a better developer tool.
Well, the official forum link on the DevC++ web page links to a URL that
redirects back to the DevC++ webpage. In other words, the offical forum is
gone.

I guess I'll just go ahead and work with MSVC++ 2005 Express. Dang.
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Jim Langston
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Jun 27 '08 #3
On 19 huhti, 13:59, "Jim Langston" <tazmas...@rocketmail.comwrote:
In other words, the offical forum is gone.
Nope, it's still there.
http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=48211
I guess I'll just go ahead and work with MSVC++ 2005 Express.
Nothing wrong with that:) VC++ is the best IDE I know.
Jun 27 '08 #4
On Apr 19, 11:59*am, "Jim Langston" <tazmas...@rocketmail.comwrote:
I guess I'll just go ahead and work with MSVC++ 2005 Express. *Dang.
consider MSVC++ 2008 Express. It installs the platform SDK
which you nedd for windows development.
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Nick Keighley
Jun 27 '08 #5
Nick Keighley <ni******************@hotmail.comwrites:
On Apr 19, 11:59*am, "Jim Langston" <tazmas...@rocketmail.comwrote:
>I guess I'll just go ahead and work with MSVC++ 2005 Express. *Dang.

consider MSVC++ 2008 Express. It installs the platform SDK
which you nedd for windows development.
It was available as a free download for VS 2005. What I find interesting
is that MS reversed their position and returned to including it with VS by
default. Sounds like .NET isn't turning out to be as popular as they had
hoped it would.

sherm--

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Jun 27 '08 #6
"Jim Langston" <ta*******@rocketmail.comwrites:
I guess I'll just go ahead and work with MSVC++ 2005 Express. Dang.
Nothing wrong with that. When in Rome...

Still, you might want to keep a careful eye on any MS-supplied "wizards"
and other code generators. That, I think, is the most common complaint
about modern versions of MS tools; it's not that they won't compile most
any standard code, it's that the included bells and whistles tend to
generate highly non-portable, Windows-specific code.

Although, if you're writing an app using the MVC design pattern, then the
view classes for your Windows version will be pretty much non-portable by
nature anyway, so it doesn't really matter for those. Be careful of your
models though - they can be re-used in a Cocoa app for Macs, if they're
portable.

The "Express" tools are pretty bare, lacking most of the bells and whistles,
but I consider that a feature. :-)

sherm--

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Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net
Jun 27 '08 #7
On 19 huhti, 22:23, Sherman Pendley <spamt...@dot-app.orgwrote:
That, I think, is the most common complaint
about modern versions of MS tools; it's not that they won't
compile most any standard code, it's that the included bells
and whistles tend to generate highly non-portable,
Windows-specific code.
I'm generating my own source code the old fashion way: by
writing it:) VC++ doesn't generate anything unless you want.
It has some bad habits like it doesn't require to #include
standard (CRT) headers to use their functions which I find
pretty odd and it's suggesting to use _s (secure) versions
of sprintf, strcpy, etc. So I guess it's more the programmers
decision how portable code he wants to write. Also I don't
like the way compiled executables require .NET even
if you write plain C++, but you can fix that with
DevC++ which produces M$ free executables.
Jun 27 '08 #8
On 2008-04-19 22:55, Krice wrote:
On 19 huhti, 22:23, Sherman Pendley <spamt...@dot-app.orgwrote:
>That, I think, is the most common complaint
about modern versions of MS tools; it's not that they won't
compile most any standard code, it's that the included bells
and whistles tend to generate highly non-portable,
Windows-specific code.
Also I don't like the way compiled executables require .NET even if
you write plain C++, but you can fix that with DevC++ which produces
M$ free executables.
Or just configuring the compiler correctly, if your binaries requires
..NET you have done something wrong.

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Erik Wikström
Jun 27 '08 #9
On 19 Apr, 21:55, Krice <pau...@mbnet.fiwrote:
I'm generating my own source code the old fashion way: by
writing it:) VC++ doesn't generate anything unless you want.
It has some bad habits like it doesn't require to #include
standard (CRT) headers to use their functions which I find
pretty odd and it's suggesting to use _s (secure) versions
of sprintf, strcpy, etc.
you can suppress that warning.
So I guess it's more the programmers
decision how portable code he wants to write.
<snip>
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Nick Keighley
Jun 27 '08 #10

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