Book concerning Network Programming

[Mex]

Hi,
I'm looking for a good book for beginners about Network Programming.
Besides Stevens' book, I would like something specific for C++
language. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advantage,
Massimo

[Victor Bazarov]

Mex wrote:

I'm looking for a good book for beginners about Network Programming.
Besides Stevens' book, I would like something specific for C++
language. Any suggestions?

Suggestion: ask in the newsgroup dedicated to your OS. Network
programming is OS-specific. C++ language has no network programming
mechanisms.

V
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[Tomás Ó hÉilidhe]

Mex <ma**************@gmail.comwrote in comp.lang.c++:

Hi,
I'm looking for a good book for beginners about Network Programming.
Besides Stevens' book, I would like something specific for C++
language. Any suggestions?

The C++ standard doesn't mention anything about networking, however there
are C++ communities built up dedicated to portable network programming.

To achieve portable network programming, they produce a "cross-platform
library" which people can use in developing a network application which
will run on the likes of Windows, Linux, Mac, Playstation 3.

There's currently no newsgroup in place for discussing cross-platform
programming in C++, which is why I've proposed the creation of
comp.lang.c++.cross-platform. Voting should start in the next day or two
(there's a load of red tape crap at the minute).

I'd appreciate if you'd vote.

--
Tomás Ó hÉilidhe

[James Kanze]

On Jan 5, 7:41 pm, "Tomás Ó hÉilidhe" <[e-mail]:

[...]

There's currently no newsgroup in place for discussing cross-platform
programming in C++,

Cross-platform C++ is precisely the subject of this group.

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[LR]

James Kanze wrote:

On Jan 5, 7:41 pm, "Tomás Ó hÉilidhe" <[e-mail]:

[...]

>There's currently no newsgroup in place for discussing cross-platform
programming in C++,

Cross-platform C++ is precisely the subject of this group.

Then perhaps the group should get a better, more descriptive name?

comp.lang.c++.non.standard.libraries.many.wish.for ?

Something else?

What would you suggest?

LR

[James Kanze]

On Jan 6, 3:54 pm, LR <[e-mail]:

James Kanze wrote:

On Jan 5, 7:41 pm, "Tomás Ó hÉilidhe" <[e-mail]:

[...]

There's currently no newsgroup in place for discussing cross-platform
programming in C++,

Cross-platform C++ is precisely the subject of this group.

Then perhaps the group should get a better, more descriptive
name?

The name seems very clear to me. The subject of the group is
C++. Not Windows, nor Unix, but C++. The classical explination
for determining if something is on subject is: if the answer
would be the same in different languages, but different for
different platforms, it's off subject---if the answer would be
the same on different platforms, but different in different
languages, it's on subject. What does "cross-platform" mean, if
not "the same on different platforms"?

comp.lang.c++.non.standard.libraries.many.wish.for ?

And how much discussion could there be about that? Once you've
posted what you want ("I'd like a library to manage cooking
recepes"), what else could be said.

Something else?

What would you suggest?

Posting platform independent questions concerning C++ here,
where they belong.

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[sassa]

On Jan 7, 5:57*am, James Kanze <[e-mail]:

On Jan 6, 3:54 pm, LR <[e-mail]:

James Kanze wrote:

On Jan 5, 7:41 pm, "Tomás Ó hÉilidhe" <[e-mail]:
* * [...]
>There's currently no newsgroup in place for discussing cross-platform
>programming in C++,
Cross-platform C++ is precisely the subject of this group.

Then perhaps the group should get a better, more descriptive
name?

The name seems very clear to me. *The subject of the group is
C++. *Not Windows, nor Unix, but C++. *The classical explination
for determining if something is on subject is: if the answer
would be the same in different languages, but different for
different platforms, it's off subject---if the answer would be
the same on different platforms, but different in different
languages, it's on subject. *What does "cross-platform" mean, if
not "the same on different platforms"?

comp.lang.c++.non.standard.libraries.many.wish.for ?

And how much discussion could there be about that? *Once you've
posted what you want ("I'd like a library to manage cooking
recepes"), what else could be said.

Something else?
What would you suggest?

Posting platform independent questions concerning C++ here,
where they belong.

--
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I think he refers to a newsgroup about cross platform libraries. For
example, even though its not platform specific, if I were to ask a
question about GTK, you would tell me in not so many words "THATS NOT
PART OF C++, ITS A LIBRARY!!!! GO AWAY, I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!! <cry...>
<drool...>". Cross platform questions that are not nessessarily
related to standard c++ specifications.

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On 2008-01-09 17:03, sassa wrote:

On Jan 7, 5:57 am, James Kanze <[e-mail]:

>On Jan 6, 3:54 pm, LR <[e-mail]:

James Kanze wrote:
On Jan 5, 7:41 pm, "Tomás Ó hÉilidhe" <[e-mail]:
[...]
There's currently no newsgroup in place for discussing cross-platform
programming in C++,
Cross-platform C++ is precisely the subject of this group.
Then perhaps the group should get a better, more descriptive
name?

The name seems very clear to me. The subject of the group is
C++. Not Windows, nor Unix, but C++. The classical explination
for determining if something is on subject is: if the answer
would be the same in different languages, but different for
different platforms, it's off subject---if the answer would be
the same on different platforms, but different in different
languages, it's on subject. What does "cross-platform" mean, if
not "the same on different platforms"?

comp.lang.c++.non.standard.libraries.many.wish.for ?

And how much discussion could there be about that? Once you've
posted what you want ("I'd like a library to manage cooking
recepes"), what else could be said.

Something else?
What would you suggest?

Posting platform independent questions concerning C++ here,
where they belong.

--
James Kanze (GABI Software) email:[e-mail]
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Beratung in objektorientierter Datenverarbeitung
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I think he refers to a newsgroup about cross platform libraries. For
example, even though its not platform specific, if I were to ask a
question about GTK, you would tell me in not so many words "THATS NOT
PART OF C++, ITS A LIBRARY!!!! GO AWAY, I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!! <cry...>
<drool...>". Cross platform questions that are not nessessarily
related to standard c++ specifications.

No, but those that are not are better answered in groups dedicated to
that subject. So if you have a question about GTK ask it in a GTK group.
My experience with groups that have very broad topics (such as all
libraries that can be used in cross-platform development) is not very
positive. In general the experts on a subject will be found in a group
that limits itself to that subject.

--
Erik Wikström

[Christopher]

On Jan 5, 12:41 pm, "Tomás Ó hÉilidhe" <[e-mail]:

Mex <[e-mail] in comp.lang.c++:

Hi,
I'm looking for a good book for beginners about Network Programming.
Besides Stevens' book, I would like something specific for C++
language. Any suggestions?

The C++ standard doesn't mention anything about networking, however there
are C++ communities built up dedicated to portable network programming.

To achieve portable network programming, they produce a "cross-platform
library" which people can use in developing a network application which
will run on the likes of Windows, Linux, Mac, Playstation 3.

There's currently no newsgroup in place for discussing cross-platform
programming in C++, which is why I've proposed the creation of
comp.lang.c++.cross-platform. Voting should start in the next day or two
(there's a load of red tape crap at the minute).

I'd appreciate if you'd vote.

--
Tomás Ó hÉilidhe

Are you ever going to cease your thread hijacking?
Must you turn every OT post into an argument about your silly
newsgroup proposal that will never happen? Just because it is OT does
not make it a canidate for your fantasy newsgroup. If by some miracle
you succeed in getting it added to usenet and the entire .00001 people
with expertise that bother to answer questions there do so, how is it
going to help anyone exactly? Don't you think people with networking
expertise are going to frequent groups like:

comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools.winsock
comp.os.linux.networking
comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.networks
alt.winsock.programming

before they frequent some group called "comp.lang.c++.cross-
platform"????!!!!

Do you intend on answering all the OT questions that get routed there
yourself? Or are you hoping on a miracle that some other group of
experts reads threads in that group out of the kindness of thier
hearts just for you?

questions without answers are like trees that fall in the forest when
no one is there...

[James Kanze]

On Jan 9, 5:03 pm, sassa <[e-mail]:

On Jan 7, 5:57 am, James Kanze <[e-mail]:

[...]

Posting platform independent questions concerning C++ here,
where they belong.

I think he refers to a newsgroup about cross platform
libraries. For example, even though its not platform
specific, if I were to ask a question about GTK, you would
tell me in not so many words "THATS NOT PART OF C++, ITS A
LIBRARY!!!! GO AWAY, I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!! <cry...<drool...>".
Cross platform questions that are not nessessarily related to
standard c++ specifications.

Not everyone is very polite about it, but in that particular
case, I think that they are just trying to help you. There's
more than just topicality at stake: you have a much better
chance of getting a correct and usable answer in a GTK group (or
mailing list). That is, after all, where the experts for GTK
are most likely to be found.

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