Anyone have any ideas on this one.....

[joebenjamin]

I am trying to write a program that will generate 100 random numbers
between 1 and 50. Using these numbers, I want to generate a list that will
tell the number of random numbers that fell between 1-5, 6-10, 11-15,
16-20, ... , and 46-50. Finally,I would like to print out the results as a
histogram. I have written it out and would think it would look like this.

1-5 (11) ***********
6-10 (8) ********
11-15 (12) ************
16-20 (9) *********
21-25 (10) **********
26-30 (11) ***********
31-35 (7) *******
36-40 (8) ********
41-45 (13) *************
46-50 (11) ***********

I am trying to learn how to do this and I am stuck. Any suggestions would
help. Even some possible tutorials to chek out would help.
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[Michal Nazarewicz]

"joebenjamin" <gu*********@hotmail.comwrites:

I am trying to write a program that will generate 100 random numbers
between 1 and 50. Using these numbers, I want to generate a list that will
tell the number of random numbers that fell between 1-5, 6-10, 11-15,
16-20, ... , and 46-50. Finally,I would like to print out the results as a
histogram. I have written it out and would think it would look like this.

1-5 (11) ***********
6-10 (8) ********
11-15 (12) ************
16-20 (9) *********
21-25 (10) **********
26-30 (11) ***********
31-35 (7) *******
36-40 (8) ********
41-45 (13) *************
46-50 (11) ***********

I am trying to learn how to do this and I am stuck. Any suggestions would
help. Even some possible tutorials to chek out would help.

To generate random number integer from set [1, 50] you can use: "number
= rand() % 50 + 1;" (remember to initialise pseudo-random number
generator with for instance srand(time(0))).

To get bucket number you can use "bucket = (number - 1) / 5;" (so in
fact it is better to generate random integer from set [0, 49] using
"number = rand() % 50;" and then calculate bucket number using "bucket =
number / 5;").

Then you increment given bucket, ie.: "buckets[bucket]++". Buckets have
to be zeroed first of course. And when results are ready you print the
results using two nested for loops.

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[Richard Heathfield]

Michal Nazarewicz said:

"joebenjamin" <gu*********@hotmail.comwrites:

>I am trying to write a program that will generate 100 random numbers
between 1 and 50. Using these numbers, I want to generate a list that
will tell the number of random numbers that fell between 1-5, 6-10,
11-15, 16-20, ... , and 46-50. Finally,I would like to print out the
results as a histogram. I have written it out and would think it
would look like this.

1-5 (11) ***********
6-10 (8) ********
11-15 (12) ************
16-20 (9) *********
21-25 (10) **********
26-30 (11) ***********
31-35 (7) *******
36-40 (8) ********
41-45 (13) *************
46-50 (11) ***********

I am trying to learn how to do this and I am stuck. Any suggestions
would help. Even some possible tutorials to chek out would help.

To generate random number integer from set [1, 50] you can use:
"number = rand() % 50 + 1;"

Better: int number = 50 * (rand() / (RAND_MAX + 1.0));

(remember to initialise pseudo-random
number generator with for instance srand(time(0))).

If he wants repeatability, he'd be better off using a constant. If he
wants unpredictability (as far as is practical), the following function
(based on code written by Lawrence Kirby) does a better job of
utilising all the available entropy.

#include <stddef.h>
#include <time.h>
#include <limits.h>

/* Usage: srand (time_seed ()); */

/* Choose and return an initial random seed based on the current time.
Based on code by Lawrence Kirby <fr**@genesis.demon.co.uk>. */
unsigned
time_seed (void)
{
time_t timeval;
unsigned char *ptr;
unsigned seed;
size_t i;

timeval = time (NULL);
ptr = (unsigned char *) &timeval;

seed = 0;
for (i = 0; i < sizeof timeval; i++)
seed = seed * (UCHAR_MAX + 2U) + ptr[i];

return seed;
}

>
To get bucket number you can use "bucket = (number - 1) / 5;" (so in
fact it is better to generate random integer from set [0, 49] using
"number = rand() % 50;" and then calculate bucket number using "bucket
= number / 5;").

Then you increment given bucket, ie.: "buckets[bucket]++". Buckets
have
to be zeroed first of course. And when results are ready you print
the results using two nested for loops.

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[tolkien]

Try this:

#include<stdio.h>
#include<stdlib.h>
#include<time.h>

int main(void)
{
int matrix[10];
int i;

int x;

srand(time(NULL));
for(i=0;i<10;i++)
matrix[i]=0;

for(i=0;i<100;i++){
x=rand()%50 + 1;

if(x<6)
matrix[0]++;
else if(x<11)
matrix[1]++;
else if(x<16)
matrix[2]++;
else if(x<21)
matrix[3]++;
else if(x<26)
matrix[4]++;
else if(x<31)
matrix[5]++;
else if(x<36)
matrix[6]++;
else if(x<41)
matrix[7]++;
else if(x<46)
matrix[8]++;
else
matrix[9]++;
}
printf("1-5 \t\t ( %3d ) ",matrix[0]);
for(i=0;i<matrix[0];i++)
printf("*");
printf("\n");

printf("6-10 \t\t ( %3d ) ",matrix[1]);
for(i=0;i<matrix[1];i++)
printf("*");
printf("\n");

return 0;
}

[joebenjamin]

Thanks Tolkien, that did help, and workd great. I have been working on
that
problem for about 2 weeks now... Much appreciated !!!!

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[Bart van Ingen Schenau]

tolkien wrote:

Try this:

<snip - program>

Hey man, thanks for doing my homework.
Will you do my next assignment as well, so I can get an A+?

[Keith Thompson]

Richard Heathfield <rj*@see.sig.invalidwrites:

Michal Nazarewicz said:

[...]

>To generate random number integer from set [1, 50] you can use:
"number = rand() % 50 + 1;"

Better: int number = 50 * (rand() / (RAND_MAX + 1.0));

Better still: read question 13.16 in the comp.lang.c FAQ,
<http://www.c-faq.com/>.

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-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

[Richard Heathfield]

Bart van Ingen Schenau said:

tolkien wrote:

>Try this:

<snip - program>

Hey man, thanks for doing my homework.
Will you do my next assignment as well, so I can get an A+?

You'd give an A+ for that? I'd give a C, tops.

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[Bart van Ingen Schenau]

Richard Heathfield wrote:

Bart van Ingen Schenau said:

>tolkien wrote:

>>Try this:

<snip - program>

Hey man, thanks for doing my homework.
Will you do my next assignment as well, so I can get an A+?

You'd give an A+ for that? I'd give a C, tops.

I am not that familiar with the letter-grade system.
On a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being the highest score), I would give the
program, if it was turned in as posted, at most a 5.
For starters, the program does not meet the stated requirements.

Bart v Ingen Schenau
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[Keith Thompson]

Bart van Ingen Schenau <ba**@ingen.ddns.infowrites:

Richard Heathfield wrote:

[...]

>You'd give an A+ for that? I'd give a C, tops.

I am not that familiar with the letter-grade system.
On a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being the highest score), I would give the
program, if it was turned in as posted, at most a 5.
For starters, the program does not meet the stated requirements.

<OT>

The usual letter-grade system is A, B, C, D, F (E is skipped).
A is the best, F is failure. A '+' or '-' may be appended to the
letter grade; B+ is better than B, but not quite as good as A-.
F+ and F- are rarely given; failure is failure.

So your '5' is probably equivalent to Richard's 'C'.

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-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

[Walter Roberson]

In article <ln************@nuthaus.mib.org>,
Keith Thompson <ks***@mib.orgwrote:

><OT>

>The usual letter-grade system is A, B, C, D, F (E is skipped).
A is the best, F is failure.

>So your '5' is probably equivalent to Richard's 'C'.

Usually, A = 80%, B = 75%, C = 65%, D = 55%, '+' means
higher towards the next best range, '-' means lower towards
the lesser range. So 5 in 1-10 scale would be D-
which is as low as you can go and still pass.
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never make copies, only human beings make copies. Computers are given
commands, not permission. Only people can be given permission."
-- Brad Templeton

[Default User]

Walter Roberson wrote:

In article <ln************@nuthaus.mib.org>,
Keith Thompson <ks***@mib.orgwrote:

<OT>

The usual letter-grade system is A, B, C, D, F (E is skipped).
A is the best, F is failure.

So your '5' is probably equivalent to Richard's 'C'.

Usually, A = 80%, B = 75%, C = 65%, D = 55%, '+' means
higher towards the next best range, '-' means lower towards
the lesser range. So 5 in 1-10 scale would be D-
which is as low as you can go and still pass.

That's not typical in the US. Normally:

A: 90%-100%
B: 80%-89%
C: 70%-79%
D: 60%-69%
F: 0%-59%

Brian

[user923005]

On Sep 11, 2:16 pm, "Default User" <[e-mail]:

Walter Roberson wrote:

In article <[e-mail]>,
Keith Thompson <[e-mail]:

<OT>

The usual letter-grade system is A, B, C, D, F (E is skipped).
A is the best, F is failure.

So your '5' is probably equivalent to Richard's 'C'.

Usually, A = 80%, B = 75%, C = 65%, D = 55%, '+' means
higher towards the next best range, '-' means lower towards
the lesser range. So 5 in 1-10 scale would be D-
which is as low as you can go and still pass.

That's not typical in the US. Normally:

A: 90%-100%

And in honors classes, 95% is often needed for an A (with the extra 5%
rippling down)

B: 80%-89%
C: 70%-79%
D: 60%-69%
F: 0%-59%

Brian

[Richard Bos]

ro******@ibd.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca (Walter Roberson) wrote:

In article <ln************@nuthaus.mib.org>,
Keith Thompson <ks***@mib.orgwrote:

<OT>

The usual letter-grade system is A, B, C, D, F (E is skipped).
A is the best, F is failure.

So your '5' is probably equivalent to Richard's 'C'.

Usually, A = 80%, B = 75%, C = 65%, D = 55%, '+' means
higher towards the next best range, '-' means lower towards
the lesser range. So 5 in 1-10 scale would be D-
which is as low as you can go and still pass.

In the 1-10 scale I'm used to - and which, I can only presume since he
uses a news server which belongs to my own ISP and therefore is well
acquainted with my country, Bart grew up with as well - 5 is as high as
you can go and still fail. A 6-, or possibly a 5-and-a-half, is the
lowest pass grade.

Richard

[Charlie Gordon]

"Keith Thompson" <ks***@mib.orga écrit dans le message de news:
ln************@nuthaus.mib.org...

Bart van Ingen Schenau <ba**@ingen.ddns.infowrites:

>Richard Heathfield wrote:

[...]

>>You'd give an A+ for that? I'd give a C, tops.

I am not that familiar with the letter-grade system.
On a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being the highest score), I would give the
program, if it was turned in as posted, at most a 5.
For starters, the program does not meet the stated requirements.

Any decent scale for grading C programming assignment should be 0 based,
don't you think ?

The usual letter-grade system is A, B, C, D, F (E is skipped).
A is the best, F is failure. A '+' or '-' may be appended to the
letter grade; B+ is better than B, but not quite as good as A-.
F+ and F- are rarely given; failure is failure.

So your '5' is probably equivalent to Richard's 'C'.

Yet another example of the culturally engraved refusal to cope with the
decimal system that plagues the USA.
Just for the fun of it, you should expand on how these grades convert to GPA
points...

--
Chqrlie.

[Al Balmer]

On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:33:57 +0200, "Charlie Gordon"
<ne**@chqrlie.orgwrote:

>"Keith Thompson" <ks***@mib.orga écrit dans le message de news:
ln************@nuthaus.mib.org...

>Bart van Ingen Schenau <ba**@ingen.ddns.infowrites:

>>Richard Heathfield wrote:

[...]

>>>You'd give an A+ for that? I'd give a C, tops.

I am not that familiar with the letter-grade system.
On a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being the highest score), I would give the
program, if it was turned in as posted, at most a 5.
For starters, the program does not meet the stated requirements.

Any decent scale for grading C programming assignment should be 0 based,
don't you think ?

>The usual letter-grade system is A, B, C, D, F (E is skipped).
A is the best, F is failure. A '+' or '-' may be appended to the
letter grade; B+ is better than B, but not quite as good as A-.
F+ and F- are rarely given; failure is failure.

So your '5' is probably equivalent to Richard's 'C'.

Yet another example of the culturally engraved refusal to cope with the
decimal system that plagues the USA.

has Richard move to the US? <g>.

>Just for the fun of it, you should expand on how these grades convert to GPA
points...

--
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Sun City, AZ

[Richard Heathfield]

Al Balmer said:

"Charlie Gordon" wrote:

>"Keith Thompson" a écrit...

<snip>

>>So your '5' is probably equivalent to Richard's 'C'.

Yet another example of the culturally engraved refusal to cope with
the decimal system that plagues the USA.

has Richard move to the US? <g>.

Does this body look dead to you? No? Then no.

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[Bart van Ingen Schenau]

Charlie Gordon wrote:

"Keith Thompson" <ks***@mib.orga écrit dans le message de news:
ln************@nuthaus.mib.org...

>Bart van Ingen Schenau <ba**@ingen.ddns.infowrites:

>>Richard Heathfield wrote:

[...]

>>>You'd give an A+ for that? I'd give a C, tops.

I am not that familiar with the letter-grade system.
On a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being the highest score), I would give the
program, if it was turned in as posted, at most a 5.
For starters, the program does not meet the stated requirements.

Any decent scale for grading C programming assignment should be 0
based, don't you think ?

Well, you could think of the scale as running from 0 to 10. The first
point is awarded for turning in a paper with your name on top. :-)

>

>The usual letter-grade system is A, B, C, D, F (E is skipped).
A is the best, F is failure. A '+' or '-' may be appended to the
letter grade; B+ is better than B, but not quite as good as A-.
F+ and F- are rarely given; failure is failure.

So your '5' is probably equivalent to Richard's 'C'.

I should have made it more clear in my previous post.
In the grading system in the Netherlands, the grades 1 (or 0) to 5
(inclusive) are all fail grades, so they would all correspond to an F.
The grades 6 to 10 are all pass grades, where 10 means a perfect score
(100%).

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[Al Balmer]

On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:31:40 +0000, Richard Heathfield
<rj*@see.sig.invalidwrote:

>Al Balmer said:

>"Charlie Gordon" wrote:

>>"Keith Thompson" a écrit...

<snip>

>>>So your '5' is probably equivalent to Richard's 'C'.

Yet another example of the culturally engraved refusal to cope with
the decimal system that plagues the USA.

has Richard move to the US? <g>.

Does this body look dead to you? No? Then no.

I do wish that the US would follow the UK (and most of the rest of the
world) and go metric. What's the name for the "4.0" grading system
higher ed uses here?

--
Al Balmer
Sun City, AZ

[Richard Heathfield]

Al Balmer said:

<snip>

I do wish that the US would follow the UK (and most of the rest of the
world) and go metric.

And I wish we would go back to Imperial weights and measures. Life in
Britain is much more confusing than it needs to be. The last time I
went to the grocer, I had to ask for 0.68038856 kilograms of carrots,
2.2679619 kilograms of spuds, and 1.8927059 pints of milk.

That's the trouble with these Europeans. Give them 25.4 millimetres and
they'll take 1.1429982 metres.

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[Coos Haak]

Op Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:22:44 +0000 schreef Richard Heathfield:

Al Balmer said:

<snip>

>I do wish that the US would follow the UK (and most of the rest of the
world) and go metric.

And I wish we would go back to Imperial weights and measures. Life in
Britain is much more confusing than it needs to be. The last time I
went to the grocer, I had to ask for 0.68038856 kilograms of carrots,
2.2679619 kilograms of spuds, and 1.8927059 pints of milk.

That's the trouble with these Europeans. Give them 25.4 millimetres and
they'll take 1.1429982 metres.

<OT>
You mean three feet and nine inches? That's exactly 1143 mm. The value of
an inch has been expressed in SI units for a long time now ;-) Like the
Dutch proverb: You don't have a foot to stand on.
</OT>
--
Coos

[Ian Collins]

Richard Heathfield wrote:

Al Balmer said:

<snip>

>I do wish that the US would follow the UK (and most of the rest of the
world) and go metric.

And I wish we would go back to Imperial weights and measures. Life in
Britain is much more confusing than it needs to be. The last time I
went to the grocer, I had to ask for 0.68038856 kilograms of carrots,
2.2679619 kilograms of spuds, and 1.8927059 pints of milk.

That's the trouble with these Europeans. Give them 25.4 millimetres and
they'll take 1.1429982 metres.

Shouldn't that be 1,609.344 metres?

--
Ian Collins.

[Mark McIntyre]

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:58:08 +0000 (UTC), in comp.lang.c ,
ro******@ibd.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca (Walter Roberson) wrote:

>In article <ln************@nuthaus.mib.org>,
Keith Thompson <ks***@mib.orgwrote:

>><OT>

>>The usual letter-grade system is A, B, C, D, F (E is skipped).
A is the best, F is failure.

>>So your '5' is probably equivalent to Richard's 'C'.

Usually, A = 80%, B = 75%, C = 65%, D = 55%,

This is all highly implementation specific. Here in the UK they don't
miss out E (I know, I needed two of them at A level to get into
Oxford...) and the percent scores are variable.

Plus - what does it hav to do with C?

--
Mark McIntyre

"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it."
--Brian Kernighan

[Richard Heathfield]

Ian Collins said:

Richard Heathfield wrote:

>Al Balmer said:

<snip>

>>I do wish that the US would follow the UK (and most of the rest of
the world) and go metric.

And I wish we would go back to Imperial weights and measures. Life in
Britain is much more confusing than it needs to be. The last time I
went to the grocer, I had to ask for 0.68038856 kilograms of carrots,
2.2679619 kilograms of spuds, and 1.8927059 pints of milk.

That's the trouble with these Europeans. Give them 25.4 millimetres
and they'll take 1.1429982 metres.

Shouldn't that be 1,609.344 metres?

You refer to a modern corruption of the original adage.

I did, however, say "pints" where I intended to say "litres".

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[Charlie Gordon]

"Bart van Ingen Schenau" <ba**@ingen.ddns.infoa écrit dans le message de
news: 13****************@ingen.ddns.info...

Charlie Gordon wrote:

>"Keith Thompson" <ks***@mib.orga écrit dans le message de news:
ln************@nuthaus.mib.org...

>>Bart van Ingen Schenau <ba**@ingen.ddns.infowrites:
Richard Heathfield wrote:
[...]
You'd give an A+ for that? I'd give a C, tops.
>
I am not that familiar with the letter-grade system.
On a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being the highest score), I would give the
program, if it was turned in as posted, at most a 5.
For starters, the program does not meet the stated requirements.

Any decent scale for grading C programming assignment should be 0
based, don't you think ?

Well, you could think of the scale as running from 0 to 10. The first
point is awarded for turning in a paper with your name on top. :-)

Yes, but some students don't even turn in anything, and others loose that
point by copying the rest of the assignment from another student or the
Internet. Zero sounds good for complete failure, even by coca cola
standards.

--
Chqrlie.

[Ben Bacarisse]

"Charlie Gordon" <ne**@chqrlie.orgwrites:

"Bart van Ingen Schenau" <ba**@ingen.ddns.infoa écrit dans le message de
news: 13****************@ingen.ddns.info...

>Charlie Gordon wrote:

>>"Keith Thompson" <ks***@mib.orga écrit dans le message de news:
ln************@nuthaus.mib.org...
Bart van Ingen Schenau <ba**@ingen.ddns.infowrites:
Richard Heathfield wrote:
[...]
>You'd give an A+ for that? I'd give a C, tops.
>>
I am not that familiar with the letter-grade system.
On a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being the highest score), I would give the
program, if it was turned in as posted, at most a 5.
For starters, the program does not meet the stated requirements.

Any decent scale for grading C programming assignment should be 0
based, don't you think ?

Well, you could think of the scale as running from 0 to 10. The first
point is awarded for turning in a paper with your name on top. :-)

Yes, but some students don't even turn in anything, and others loose that
point by copying the rest of the assignment from another student or the
Internet. Zero sounds good for complete failure, even by coca cola
standards.

Most marking schemes I've see include the equivalent of NaN for
missing or copied assignments. It usually obeys similar arithmetic
laws and is consequently much feared.

--
Ben.

[CBFalconer]

Richard Heathfield wrote:

Ian Collins said:

>Richard Heathfield wrote:

>>Al Balmer said:

<snip>

I do wish that the US would follow the UK (and most of the rest of
the world) and go metric.

And I wish we would go back to Imperial weights and measures. Life in
Britain is much more confusing than it needs to be. The last time I
went to the grocer, I had to ask for 0.68038856 kilograms of carrots,
2.2679619 kilograms of spuds, and 1.8927059 pints of milk.

That's the trouble with these Europeans. Give them 25.4 millimetres
and they'll take 1.1429982 metres.

Shouldn't that be 1,609.344 metres?

You refer to a modern corruption of the original adage.

I did, however, say "pints" where I intended to say "litres".

Why are you buying milk in US quarts. I would have thought
Imperial quarts would be more natural for you. :-)

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[Richard Bos]

Al Balmer <al******@att.netwrote:

On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:31:40 +0000, Richard Heathfield

Al Balmer said:

"Charlie Gordon" wrote:

>>Yet another example of the culturally engraved refusal to cope with
the decimal system that plagues the USA.

has Richard move to the US? <g>.

Does this body look dead to you? No? Then no.

I do wish that the US would follow the UK (and most of the rest of the
world) and go metric.

You're a couple of days late. The UK is officiously going back to
playing the empire: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6988521.stm>.

Richard

[Richard Heathfield]

Richard Bos said:

<snip>

The UK is officiously going back to
playing the empire: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6988521.stm>.

It's called "freedom of expression". If I want to measure in yards
instead of metres, I will do so. If you want to measure in metres
instead of yards, feel free! So long as neither of us is hurting others
by our choice of yardstick (or, if you prefer, 0.9144metrestick), who
cares? And if someone /is/ hurt by my choosing to go for a six mile
walk rather than a 9656.064 metre walk, then I really do think they
need to get themselves into town to pay a quick visit to the life shop.

--
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Google users: <http://www.cpax.org.uk/prg/writings/googly.php>
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[jaysome]

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 06:54:37 +0000, Richard Heathfield
<rj*@see.sig.invalidwrote:

>Richard Bos said:

<snip>

>The UK is officiously going back to
playing the empire: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6988521.stm>.

It's called "freedom of expression". If I want to measure in yards
instead of metres, I will do so. If you want to measure in metres
instead of yards, feel free! So long as neither of us is hurting others
by our choice of yardstick (or, if you prefer, 0.9144metrestick), who
cares? And if someone /is/ hurt by my choosing to go for a six mile
walk rather than a 9656.064 metre walk, then I really do think they
need to get themselves into town to pay a quick visit to the life shop.

Some people, arguably mainly those who classify themselves as
navigators (who like to think in terms of nautical miles), may
disagree with this assertion. In their world, six miles is exactly
11112 meters.

--
jay

[Charlie Gordon]

"Richard Heathfield" <rj*@see.sig.invalida écrit dans le message de news:
cP*********************@bt.com...

Richard Bos said:

<snip>

>The UK is officiously going back to
playing the empire: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6988521.stm>.

It's called "freedom of expression". If I want to measure in yards
instead of metres, I will do so. If you want to measure in metres
instead of yards, feel free! So long as neither of us is hurting others
by our choice of yardstick (or, if you prefer, 0.9144metrestick), who
cares? And if someone /is/ hurt by my choosing to go for a six mile
walk rather than a 9656.064 metre walk, then I really do think they
need to get themselves into town to pay a quick visit to the life shop.

I think it is just bad marketing. They should have used the beer argument:
with metric pints (0.5 litre) you get 10% more beer !

--
Chqrlie.

[Richard Bos]

"Charlie Gordon" <ne**@chqrlie.orgwrote:

"Richard Heathfield" <rj*@see.sig.invalida écrit dans le message de news:
cP*********************@bt.com...

Richard Bos said:

The UK is officiously going back to
playing the empire: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6988521.stm>.

It's called "freedom of expression". If I want to measure in yards
instead of metres, I will do so. If you want to measure in metres
instead of yards, feel free! So long as neither of us is hurting others
by our choice of yardstick (or, if you prefer, 0.9144metrestick), who
cares? And if someone /is/ hurt by my choosing to go for a six mile
walk rather than a 9656.064 metre walk, then I really do think they
need to get themselves into town to pay a quick visit to the life shop.

I think it is just bad marketing. They should have used the beer argument:
with metric pints (0.5 litre) you get 10% more beer !

The UK government may be innumerate, but it's not _that_ innumerate. A
pint is 13.5% larger than half a litre.

Richard


(No, what you were thinking of is not a pint, regardless of what the
even worse innumerates on the other side of the pond call it.)

[Charlie Gordon]

"Richard Bos" <rl*@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nla écrit dans le message de news:
46****************@news.xs4all.nl...

"Charlie Gordon" <ne**@chqrlie.orgwrote:

>"Richard Heathfield" <rj*@see.sig.invalida écrit dans le message de
news:
cP*********************@bt.com...

Richard Bos said:

The UK is officiously going back to
playing the empire: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6988521.stm>.

It's called "freedom of expression". If I want to measure in yards
instead of metres, I will do so. If you want to measure in metres
instead of yards, feel free! So long as neither of us is hurting others
by our choice of yardstick (or, if you prefer, 0.9144metrestick), who
cares? And if someone /is/ hurt by my choosing to go for a six mile
walk rather than a 9656.064 metre walk, then I really do think they
need to get themselves into town to pay a quick visit to the life shop.

I think it is just bad marketing. They should have used the beer
argument:
with metric pints (0.5 litre) you get 10% more beer !

The UK government may be innumerate, but it's not _that_ innumerate. A
pint is 13.5% larger than half a litre.

Of course, my mistake, US pints are the smaller ones.

(No, what you were thinking of is not a pint, regardless of what the
even worse innumerates on the other side of the pond call it.)

Well the innumeracy is indeed abysmal:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pint

pint comes from old French pinte, still used in today's French bars for 0.5
litre servings of beer.

--
Chqrlie.

[Joachim Schmitz]

"Charlie Gordon" <ne**@chqrlie.orgschrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:46**********************@news.free.fr...

pint comes from old French pinte, still used in today's French bars for
0.5 litre servings of beer.

And in Germany Pinte is a colloquial word for the bar itself...