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yatuo-kui wrote:
>
the strange accident

http://www.hotalways.com/groups/view...extra=page%3D1
What did this do to the C language?

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<http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html>
<http://kadaitcha.cx/vista/dogsbreakfast/index.html>
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Jun 8 '07 #2

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On 8 Jun 2007 at 16:26, CBFalconer wrote:
yatuo-kui wrote:
>>
the strange accident

http://www.hotalways.com/groups/view...extra=page%3D1

What did this do to the C language?
Nothing. It was a spam message. You well know this. I'd never have seen
it if you hadn't replied, since my news server filtered it out. Many
other people would never have seen it if you hadn't replied. You well
know this too. WHY ON EARTH DID YOU REPLY?

I read this group, learn a lot from it. There are some net nannies here,
but all of them make many useful posts for ever post telling someone
off. I don't really mind that - they earn the prerogative to wag their
fingers at people if that's what makes them happy by their valuable
contributions.

With CBFalconer, it's exactly the opposite. The noise-to-signal ratio is
just too high for this particular lurker. In fact, even the on-topic
posts I can live without - often they miss the point, and when they
don't they're generally no more than a link to one of the programs on
your website. Even worse is your posting to comp.os.linux.misc, where
there is absolutely nothing whatsoever remotely useful to anyone, but
nevertheless a (slightly less free-flowing) stream of whining.

So you're off into my killfile. That's usually reserved for persistent
trolls, but there you have it.

And let me add my voice to those who point out the crazy hypocrisy of
lecturing every Tom, Dick and Harry on netiquette, and finishing every
post with this monstrosity:
--
<http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt>
<http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/423>
<http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html>
<http://kadaitcha.cx/vista/dogsbreakfast/index.html>
cbfalconer at maineline dot net
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Sorry this is a rant, and there's no reason anyone here should care
about my opinion since I freely admit I don't contribute anything to the
NG, but frustration has got the better of me! I'm vain enough to think
that I might just be speaking for the silent majority.

Jun 8 '07 #3

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CBFalconer <cb********@yahoo.comwrites:
yatuo-kui wrote:
>>
the strange accident

http://[deleted]

What did this do to the C language?
Nothing whatsoever, of course.

Chuck, please resist the temptation to respond to spam. If you must
respond, at least don't re-post the URL.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks***@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
San Diego Supercomputer Center <* <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst>
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
Jun 8 '07 #4

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Frustrated Lurker <no***@nowhere.comwrites:
[snip]
And let me add my voice to those who point out the crazy hypocrisy of
lecturing every Tom, Dick and Harry on netiquette, and finishing every
post with this monstrosity:
>--
<http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt>
<http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/423>
<http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html>
<http://kadaitcha.cx/vista/dogsbreakfast/index.html>
cbfalconer at maineline dot net
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
By convention, signatures are not subject to topicality rules.

Chuck's signature is a bit long, but it doesn't exceed my personal
threshold of annoyance. However, Chuck, you might consider dropping
the two blank lines that precede the teranews sig.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks***@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
San Diego Supercomputer Center <* <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst>
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
Jun 8 '07 #5

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In article <ln************@nuthaus.mib.org>,
Keith Thompson <ks***@mib.orgwrote:
>Frustrated Lurker <no***@nowhere.comwrites:
[snip]
>And let me add my voice to those who point out the crazy hypocrisy of
lecturing every Tom, Dick and Harry on netiquette, and finishing every
post with this monstrosity:
>>--
<http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt>
<http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/423>
<http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html>
<http://kadaitcha.cx/vista/dogsbreakfast/index.html>
cbfalconer at maineline dot net
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

By convention, signatures are not subject to topicality rules.
The general (Usenet-wide) rule is 4 lines. Chuck's is 9. That's the point.

Jun 8 '07 #6

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Keith Thompson said:

<snip>
By convention, signatures are not subject to topicality rules.
They are, however, subject to Usenet conventions.
Chuck's signature is a bit long,
Yes. That's the point. It's too long, and he knows it perfectly well,
and he does nothing about it.

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at the above domain, - www.
Jun 8 '07 #7

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Richard Heathfield <rj*@see.sig.invalidwrites:
Keith Thompson said:
<snip>
>By convention, signatures are not subject to topicality rules.

They are, however, subject to Usenet conventions.
>Chuck's signature is a bit long,

Yes. That's the point. It's too long, and he knows it perfectly well,
and he does nothing about it.
I think you're right. I misread Frustrated Lurker's comments and
thought he was complaining about the content; on re-reading, I think
he was merely complaining about the length.

Chuck, if your Usenet provider automatically adds those extra lines,
there's not much you can do about that, but you might consider
shortening the portion of your signature that you do control. You
could replace the 4 URLs with a single one pointing to a web page on
your own site; with a properly chosen file name, you could even get
your message across to people who don't bother to follow the link.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks***@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
San Diego Supercomputer Center <* <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst>
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
Jun 8 '07 #8

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In article <ln************@nuthaus.mib.org>,
Keith Thompson <ks***@mib.orgwrote:
>Chuck, if your Usenet provider automatically adds those extra lines,
there's not much you can do about that, but you might consider
shortening the portion of your signature that you do control. You
could replace the 4 URLs with a single one pointing to a web page on
your own site; with a properly chosen file name, you could even get
your message across to people who don't bother to follow the link.
Or Chuck could use a few words of header and pack several tinyurl's
on a single line.
--
Okay, buzzwords only. Two syllables, tops. -- Laurie Anderson
Jun 8 '07 #9

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Keith Thompson wrote:
Richard Heathfield <rj*@see.sig.invalidwrites:
>Keith Thompson said:
<snip>
>>By convention, signatures are not subject to topicality rules.

They are, however, subject to Usenet conventions.
>>Chuck's signature is a bit long,

Yes. That's the point. It's too long, and he knows it perfectly well,
and he does nothing about it.

I think you're right. I misread Frustrated Lurker's comments and
thought he was complaining about the content; on re-reading, I think
he was merely complaining about the length.

Chuck, if your Usenet provider automatically adds those extra lines,
there's not much you can do about that, but you might consider
shortening the portion of your signature that you do control. You
could replace the 4 URLs with a single one pointing to a web page on
your own site; with a properly chosen file name, you could even get
your message across to people who don't bother to follow the link.
Actually the line length is short, so the total content is less
than would be consumed by 4 80 char. lines. Besides, the 4 line
limit is a recommendation, not a mandate.

You may not have noticed, but I usually spend some time properly
cleaning up irrationally formatted posts before replying.

--
<http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt>
<http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/423>
<http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html>
<http://kadaitcha.cx/vista/dogsbreakfast/index.html>
cbfalconer at maineline dot net

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Jun 9 '07 #10

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Keith Thompson wrote:
Frustrated Lurker <no***@nowhere.comwrites:
[snip]
>And let me add my voice to those who point out the crazy hypocrisy of
lecturing every Tom, Dick and Harry on netiquette, and finishing every
post with this monstrosity:
>>--
<http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt>
<http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/423>
<http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html>
<http://kadaitcha.cx/vista/dogsbreakfast/index.html>
cbfalconer at maineline dot net
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

By convention, signatures are not subject to topicality rules.

Chuck's signature is a bit long, but it doesn't exceed my personal
threshold of annoyance. However, Chuck, you might consider dropping
the two blank lines that precede the teranews sig.
When it leaves here there are zero terminal blank lines. Teranews
added those.

--
<http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt>
<http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/423>
<http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html>
<http://kadaitcha.cx/vista/dogsbreakfast/index.html>
cbfalconer at maineline dot net

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Jun 9 '07 #11

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CBFalconer <cb********@yahoo.comwrites:
Keith Thompson wrote:
[...]
>Chuck's signature is a bit long, but it doesn't exceed my personal
threshold of annoyance. However, Chuck, you might consider dropping
the two blank lines that precede the teranews sig.

When it leaves here there are zero terminal blank lines. Teranews
added those.
Then might I suggest that you complain to teranews?

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks***@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
San Diego Supercomputer Center <* <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst>
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
Jun 9 '07 #12

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"yatuo-kui" wrote:
the strange accident
http://www.hotalways.com/groups/view...extra=page%3D1
Ok, I'll be charitable and assume that this is something on-topic for
this group (ie, it has something to do with the C programming language).
However, when I go there, I get this error message:

"Your usergroup does not have permission to access attachments"

Please don't post links to material elsewhere, especially not to sites
that require accounts. No one can read your material. Instead, please
just write what you want to write in the body of your post. Thanks!

--
Cheers,
Robbie Hatley
lone wolf aatt well dott com
triple-dubya dott Tustin Free Zone dott org
Jun 9 '07 #13

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CBFalconer <cb********@yahoo.comwrites:
yatuo-kui wrote:
>>
the strange accident

http://www.hotalways.com/groups/view...extra=page%3D1

What did this do to the C language?

--
<http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt>
<http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/423>
<http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html>
<http://kadaitcha.cx/vista/dogsbreakfast/index.html>
cbfalconer at maineline dot net


By replying to this SPAM you bring it to every one elses
attention. Congratulations.

There appears to still be an error in your signature delimiters.
Jun 10 '07 #14

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Keith Thompson <ks***@mib.orgwrites:
Frustrated Lurker <no***@nowhere.comwrites:
[snip]
>And let me add my voice to those who point out the crazy hypocrisy of
lecturing every Tom, Dick and Harry on netiquette, and finishing every
post with this monstrosity:
>>--
<http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt>
<http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/423>
<http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html>
<http://kadaitcha.cx/vista/dogsbreakfast/index.html>
cbfalconer at maineline dot net
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

By convention, signatures are not subject to topicality rules.

Chuck's signature is a bit long, but it doesn't exceed my personal
threshold of annoyance. However, Chuck, you might consider dropping
the two blank lines that precede the teranews sig.

He is posting with a double signature as he been told numerous
times.
Jun 10 '07 #15

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Richard <rg****@gmail.comwrites:
CBFalconer <cb********@yahoo.comwrites:
>yatuo-kui wrote:
>>>
the strange accident

http://[DELETED]

What did this do to the C language?

--
<http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt>
<http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/423>
<http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html>
<http://kadaitcha.cx/vista/dogsbreakfast/index.html>
cbfalconer at maineline dot net

By replying to this SPAM you bring it to every one elses
attention. Congratulations.
And you quoted the spammed URL *again*. Congratulations to you as
well.
There appears to still be an error in your signature delimiters.
No, his signature delimiters are perfectly correct. The fact that
there are two of them may be a minor problem, but that appears to be
largely beyond his control, unless he chooses not to have his own
signature at all. As I've already pointed out to you, you can always
manually delete his signature(s) in folowups (though in this case, I
acknowledge that you were actually commenting on the signature).

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks***@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
San Diego Supercomputer Center <* <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst>
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
Jun 10 '07 #16

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Keith Thompson <ks***@mib.orgwrites:
Richard <rg****@gmail.comwrites:
>CBFalconer <cb********@yahoo.comwrites:
>>yatuo-kui wrote:

the strange accident

http://[DELETED]

What did this do to the C language?

--
<http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt>
<http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/423>
<http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html>
<http://kadaitcha.cx/vista/dogsbreakfast/index.html>
cbfalconer at maineline dot net

By replying to this SPAM you bring it to every one elses
attention. Congratulations.

And you quoted the spammed URL *again*. Congratulations to you as
well.
To make a point.
>
>There appears to still be an error in your signature delimiters.

No, his signature delimiters are perfectly correct. The fact that
there are two of them may be a minor problem, but that appears to be
largely beyond his control, unless he chooses not to have his own
signature at all. As I've already pointed out to you, you can always
manually delete his signature(s) in folowups (though in this case, I
acknowledge that you were actually commenting on the signature).
I don't really care what you acknowledge. I was telling Falconer that
his signature is incorrectly delimited. The *reason* being that his ISP
tags a new one on is immaterial. He is a serial troll and trouble maker.
Jun 10 '07 #17

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On 9 Jun, 00:57, CBFalconer <cbfalco...@yahoo.comwrote:
Keith Thompson wrote:
Frustrated Lurker <n...@nowhere.comwrites:
And let me add my voice to those who point out the crazy hypocrisy of
lecturing every Tom, Dick and Harry on netiquette, and finishing every
post with this monstrosity:
>--
<http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt>
<http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/423>
<http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html>
<http://kadaitcha.cx/vista/dogsbreakfast/index.html>
cbfalconer at maineline dot net
>--
Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
<snip>
Chuck's signature is a bit long, but it doesn't exceed my personal
threshold of annoyance. However, Chuck, you might consider dropping
the two blank lines that precede the teranews sig.

When it leaves here there are zero terminal blank lines. Teranews
added those.
have you considered switching to a decent news reader? For instance
Google Groups dosn't add any extra lines.
--
Nick Keighley

Jun 11 '07 #18

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Nick Keighley <ni******************@hotmail.comwrote:
On 9 Jun, 00:57, CBFalconer <cbfalco...@yahoo.comwrote:
Keith Thompson wrote:
Chuck's signature is a bit long, but it doesn't exceed my personal
threshold of annoyance. However, Chuck, you might consider dropping
the two blank lines that precede the teranews sig.
When it leaves here there are zero terminal blank lines. Teranews
added those.

have you considered switching to a decent news reader? For instance
Google Groups dosn't add any extra lines.
True, but irrelevant, since Google Groups is not a decent newsreader. It
isn't even a decent news _server_, which is what Chuck very badly needs
to find.

Richard
Jun 11 '07 #19

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Nick Keighley <ni******************@hotmail.comwrites:
On 9 Jun, 00:57, CBFalconer <cbfalco...@yahoo.comwrote:
>Keith Thompson wrote:
[...]
Chuck's signature is a bit long, but it doesn't exceed my personal
threshold of annoyance. However, Chuck, you might consider dropping
the two blank lines that precede the teranews sig.

When it leaves here there are zero terminal blank lines. Teranews
added those.

have you considered switching to a decent news reader? For instance
Google Groups dosn't add any extra lines.
It's not the reader, it's the server. (Google Groups acts (poorly) as
both.)

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks***@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
San Diego Supercomputer Center <* <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst>
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
Jun 11 '07 #20

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Nick Keighley wrote:
CBFalconer <cbfalco...@yahoo.comwrote:
.... snip ...
>
have you considered switching to a decent news reader? For instance
Google Groups dosn't add any extra lines.
No. I handle news offline, and want my existing newsreader. My
ISP has fouled up the news access, thus the Teranews. I hate the
google service, and it is not offlineable.

--
<http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt>
<http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/423>
<http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html>
<http://kadaitcha.cx/vista/dogsbreakfast/index.html>
cbfalconer at maineline dot net

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Jun 11 '07 #21

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CBFalconer wrote, On 11/06/07 23:05:
Nick Keighley wrote:
>CBFalconer <cbfalco...@yahoo.comwrote:
... snip ...
>have you considered switching to a decent news reader? For instance
Google Groups dosn't add any extra lines.

No. I handle news offline, and want my existing newsreader. My
ISP has fouled up the news access, thus the Teranews. I hate the
google service, and it is not offlineable.
There are other free and almost free news providers. You can even do
what I do and use SW to amalgamate feed from several such providers. Or
if you ask nicely I can even give you read/posting access through my
system, all I would need is an email address to send a username/password
to. This offer (including running on non-standard port to bypass some
blocking) is available to anyone I am familiar enough with to trust.
--
Flash Gordon
Jun 12 '07 #22

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Flash Gordon <sp**@flash-gordon.me.ukwrote:
CBFalconer wrote, On 11/06/07 23:05:
>Nick Keighley wrote:
>>CBFalconer <cbfalco...@yahoo.comwrote:
... snip ...
>>have you considered switching to a decent news reader? For
instance Google Groups dosn't add any extra lines.

No. I handle news offline, and want my existing newsreader. My
ISP has fouled up the news access, thus the Teranews. I hate the
google service, and it is not offlineable.

There are other free and almost free news providers. You can even
do what I do and use SW to amalgamate feed from several such
providers. Or if you ask nicely I can even give you read/posting
access through my system, all I would need is an email address to
send a username/password to. This offer (including running on
non-standard port to bypass some blocking) is available to anyone
I am familiar enough with to trust.
Thanks for the offer, but unless something goes wrong with Teranews
I think I'll stick. The only group I use that they don't have is
comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad. But sometimes they hold up my posts for
literally days!!

--
<http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt>
<http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/423>
<http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html>
<http://kadaitcha.cx/vista/dogsbreakfast/index.html>
cbfalconer at maineline dot net

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Jun 12 '07 #23

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