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Assembler is better than C++

Real men write their programs in pure assembler code.

Sissies use C++.
Jul 19 '05 #1
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"Tim Spujum" <sl*********@yahoo.co.nz> wrote in message
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Real men write their programs in pure assembler code.
Trolls are everywhere.
Sissies use C++.


Real men plonk trolls.

*PLONK*

-Mike
Jul 19 '05 #2

"Tim Spujum" <sl*********@yahoo.co.nz> a écrit dans le message de
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Real men write their programs in pure assembler code.

Sissies use C++.


.... remember the 90-10 rule ?
when it must be dramatically fast or small, yes, use languages such as
asm.... either, prefer simpler code : mixed C/C++ & ASM seems to be the key,
na ??
Jul 19 '05 #3
Tim Spujum wrote:
Real men write their programs in pure assembler code.

Sissies use C++.


This is an obvious troll. Please ignore it.

Jul 19 '05 #4
Tim Spujum wrote:
Real men write their programs in pure assembler code.

Sissies use C++.


What is a Real Man? (As opposed to a surrealistic one?)

On a daily basis, I program in C, C++ and assembly. The
assembly code takes over 10 times as long than writing
in C or C++, and I have over 30 years programming in
various assembly languages.

I only write in assembly language when there is a need
for the speed, space or to take advantage of some features
of a processor. I've got other things to do with my time
than waste it away writing complete applications in
assembly language. I sepnd a lot of my time researching
for C or C++ code that other people have written, so that
I can use the development time I saved doing something
better like surfing or having water balloon fights with
kids.

--
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Jul 19 '05 #5
"Tim Spujum" <sl*********@yahoo.co.nz> wrote in message
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Real men write their programs in pure assembler code.

Sissies use C++.


Real men write their programs in machine code, using a
telegraph key and an LED. Macros and mnemonics are
for sissies.

Real women ask for directions, read instruction manuals,
and use C++. Which is probably why we keep them around.

Dave

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Jul 19 '05 #6
In article <um****************@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>,
Thomas Matthews <Th**********************@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
What is a Real Man? (As opposed to a surrealistic one?)


One who does not respond to obvious trolls.
Jul 19 '05 #7
Yea, i bet hitler would say that too.

"Tim Spujum" <sl*********@yahoo.co.nz> wrote in message
news:20**************************@posting.google.c om...
Real men write their programs in pure assembler code.

Sissies use C++.

Jul 19 '05 #8
In article <bl**********@news.astound.net>,
dh***@codelogicconsulting.com says...

[ ... ]
Real men write their programs in machine code, using a
telegraph key and an LED. Macros and mnemonics are
for sissies.


Machine code is for wimps -- REAL programming is done with a soldering
iron. A "quick hack" is when you use a wire-wrap tool.

--
Later,
Jerry.

The universe is a figment of its own imagination.
Jul 19 '05 #9
> Yea, i bet hitler would say that too.

hitler?

:|
Jul 19 '05 #10
"SenderX" <xx*@xxx.xxx> wrote in message
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Yea, i bet hitler would say that too.
hitler?


http://www.hitler.org/

Yea, hitler.

:|

Jul 19 '05 #11
> http://www.hitler.org/

:?

The world allows this site to exist?!?!

What a damn shame...

Why post a link to that dribble?!?!?

Yea, hitler.


How many Jews have you murdered in your lifetime?

You low life slime!
Jul 19 '05 #12
"SenderX" <xx*@xxx.xxx> wrote in message
news:nKqgb.695868$Ho3.153047@sccrnsc03...
http://www.hitler.org/
:?

The world allows this site to exist?!?!

What a damn shame...

Why post a link to that dribble?!?!?

Yea, hitler.


How many Jews have you murdered in your lifetime?


How many Poles, Russians, Ukrainians, Byelorussians, Checks, and other
slaves have you murdered in your lifetime?

You low life slime!
You just made an assumption you uneducated moron.

Jul 19 '05 #13
In article <nKqgb.695868$Ho3.153047@sccrnsc03>, xx*@xxx.xxx says...

[ ... ]
The world allows this site to exist?!?!
Yes -- some people are in favor of freedom of expression.
What a damn shame...
I tend to disagree.
Why post a link to that dribble?!?!?


Why keep it in your followup? Why say "dribble" when you mean "drivel"?

Seriously though: members of oppressed minorities are _precisely_ the
people who stand to lose the most when/if freedom of expression is
suppressed. The minute you suppress one group's freedom of expression,
you make it just that much easier for the same to be done to some other
group. While the attribution to Voltaire is apparently incorrect, I
(for one) agree completely with the sentiment that "I disagree with what
you say, but if necessarily would fight to the death to protect your
freedom to say it."

--
Later,
Jerry.

The universe is a figment of its own imagination.
Jul 19 '05 #14
> > How many Jews have you murdered in your lifetime?

How many Poles, Russians, Ukrainians, Byelorussians, Checks, and other
slaves have you murdered in your lifetime?
Zero.

Notice how you did not answer my question?

That's troublesome...

You just made an assumption you uneducated moron.


I hope I was wrong.

I just have a certain hatred for hitler...
Jul 19 '05 #15
> > The world allows this site to exist?!?!

Yes -- some people are in favor of freedom of expression.
hitler is/should be an exception.

"I disagree with what
you say, but if necessarily would fight to the death to protect your
freedom to say it."


hitler is/should be an exception.
Jul 19 '05 #16
Well, I am Polish and am dating a Jewish girl. Does that help?
:-)

"SenderX" <xx*@xxx.xxx> wrote in message
news:DArgb.693056$YN5.564321@sccrnsc01...
How many Jews have you murdered in your lifetime?


How many Poles, Russians, Ukrainians, Byelorussians, Checks, and other
slaves have you murdered in your lifetime?


Zero.

Notice how you did not answer my question?

That's troublesome...

You just made an assumption you uneducated moron.


I hope I was wrong.

I just have a certain hatred for hitler...

Jul 19 '05 #17
> Well, I am Polish and am dating a Jewish girl. Does that help?
:-)


I just take a certain offense to hitler.

Saying that a troll's comments might match hitlers, just makes me uneasy...

I am sorry. That's just how I am. I'm not sure if I can change the way I
feel about any comments on hitler... He is one of the few people who make my
blood boil.

Again, my apologies... I was out of line...
Jul 19 '05 #18
Sorry about that explosion of mine...

I guess I need to learn about getting over the hatred I have of that "little
man" with the half-assed mustache.

I have always been very touchy on this subject...

"I disagree with what
you say, but if necessarily would fight to the death to protect your
freedom to say it."


I even got into a massive fist fight with a teacher of mine, over this exact
subject ( wrt hitler ).
Jul 19 '05 #19
On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 04:50:01 GMT, SenderX <xx*@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> The world allows this site to exist?!?!


Yes -- some people are in favor of freedom of expression.


hitler is/should be an exception.


And I guess Jesus should be too, since there a bunch of people
who hate him.

And black people too, since there are a bunch of people who
hate them.

--
Sam Holden

Jul 19 '05 #20

"SenderX" <xx*@xxx.xxx> wrote in message
news:ZBrgb.54727$%h1.41073@sccrnsc02...
The world allows this site to exist?!?!


Yes -- some people are in favor of freedom of expression.


hitler is/should be an exception.

"I disagree with what
you say, but if necessarily would fight to the death to protect your
freedom to say it."


hitler is/should be an exception.


I suggest you read some Orwell.

-Mike
Jul 19 '05 #21
In article <ZBrgb.54727$%h1.41073@sccrnsc02>, xx*@xxx.xxx says...
The world allows this site to exist?!?!


Yes -- some people are in favor of freedom of expression.


hitler is/should be an exception.


Regardless of your feelings about any particular person, admitting of
ANY exception opens the floodgates to his ilk.

--
Later,
Jerry.

The universe is a figment of its own imagination.
Jul 19 '05 #22
> And black people too, since there are a bunch of people who
hate them.


Their hate is based in nothingness, it makes no sense...
Jul 19 '05 #23
SenderX wrote:
"I disagree with what
you say, but if necessarily would fight to the death to protect your
freedom to say it."

hitler is/should be an exception.


While he is certainly off topic here, freedom of expression must apply
to all people or it is of no use to anyone. Deny one person's right to
speak his mind and heart, no matter how black it is, and you deny all
others. Where is the line between good and bad speach? Do you feel up
to the task of drawing that line? What if I disagree and want to draw
it in a different place where your beliefs are not allowed? I can think
of several people whom I would like to tape their mouths shut, mostly
for just being irritatingly ignorant, but I havn't the right.

Believing in free speach means you can allow someone to advocate things
you would die to stop. You must allow someone to stand on a podium and
say all of the stuff you find repugnant, stupid, hateful, and harmful to
the very state of the world without attempting to stop that person from
making those statements. It is a hard thing to do, most people are
incapable of this; which is why true freedom of expression exists in
very few, if any, places on this planet.

There are still many followers of Hitler in this world, they have the
right to their belief system. You have the right to think and say they
are full of shit, evil, or however you view them. You don't have the
right to try and stop them from believing what they believe or to stop
them from saying what they believe. You also don't have the right to
become violent in responce to their expression; violence in this area is
a big indicator that the aggressor is weak in the foundations of their
beliefs.

NR

Jul 19 '05 #24
SenderX wrote:
And black people too, since there are a bunch of people who
hate them.

Their hate is based in nothingness, it makes no sense...

Being ignorant and spewing forth assertations based on fallacy is the
right of every human. If you deny all ignorant people the right to
speak then the world would be a very quiet place.

NR

Jul 19 '05 #25
Noah Roberts wrote:
There are still many followers of Hitler in this world, they have the
right to their belief system. You have the right to think and say they
are full of shit, evil, or however you view them. You don't have the
right to try and stop them from believing what they believe or to stop
them from saying what they believe.


I should have qualified that last sentance. It is ok to argue your
point and try to get them to change their minds; in this case trying to
stop them from believing in stupidity is perfectly acceptable. It is
not appropriate or within the rights of any person to try and force
another to change their beliefs or stop expressing them.

NR

Jul 19 '05 #26
> It is
not appropriate or within the rights of any person to try and force
another to change their beliefs or stop expressing them.


Yeah... Your right, I am sorry.

Please don't let my un-called for remarks turn into a flame war.

I guess I simply have to get over my feelings on this touchy issue(
hitler )...

It has already caused me a couple of bar fights in my lifetime. One of which
I totally lost. Hospital time...

I hope I have not damaged myself to the point of no return.

Again, I am sorry.

I am not going to reply to this OT subject in this NG anymore. I swear.

BTW...

This NG has helped me though some big C++ projects, with no questions asked
on my part.

Thanks.
Jul 19 '05 #27
> > There are still many followers of Hitler in this world, they have the
right to their belief system. You have the right to think and say they
are full of shit, evil, or however you view them. You don't have the
right to try and stop them from believing what they believe or to stop
them from saying what they believe.


I should have qualified that last sentance. It is ok to argue your
point and try to get them to change their minds; in this case trying to
stop them from believing in stupidity is perfectly acceptable. It is
not appropriate or within the rights of any person to try and force
another to change their beliefs or stop expressing them.


Except when the expression of these beliefs prevents a person to
assert his rights.
Jonathan
Jul 19 '05 #28
"SenderX" <xx*@xxx.xxx> wrote in message news:<MFrgb.693087$YN5.564934@sccrnsc01>...
Well, I am Polish and am dating a Jewish girl. Does that help?
:-)


I just take a certain offense to hitler.

Saying that a troll's comments might match hitlers, just makes me uneasy...

I am sorry. That's just how I am. I'm not sure if I can change the way I
feel about any comments on hitler... He is one of the few people who make my
blood boil.

Again, my apologies... I was out of line...


I haven't looked at that site, but for an example of the dangers of ad
hominem attacks:

Hitler said that smoking was bad for you. The US said he was wrong,
and after the war flooded Europe with US tobacco. Was it right to
dismiss his arguments because of his other (evil) political policies?

Milosovic said that NATO was using depleted Uranium in the war against
Serbia. The US said this was wrong. After the war they admitted they
were using such weapons. Was it right to dismiss his arguments because
of his other (evil) political policies?

Saddam Hussein said he had got rid of his weapons of mass destruction.
The US said this was wrong. After the war they could not find any
weapons. Was it right to dismiss (and censor) his arguments because of
his other (evil) political policies?

Has no-one invoked Godwin's Law yet?

I don't see what this has to do with assembler though, unless you make
a tenuous assertion that Konrad Zuse was denied funding for his
computers due to his choice of programming language :-)
Jul 19 '05 #29
Carl Muller wrote:
Has no-one invoked Godwin's Law yet?


You just did! :-)

--
Attila aka WW
Jul 19 '05 #30
> > Real men write their programs in pure assembler code.

Sissies use C++.

Real men (and women) know that it is ASSEMBLY language, not assembler. You
wouldn't call C++ "compiler" would you?

DrX.
Jul 19 '05 #31
Xenos escribió:
Real men (and women) know that it is ASSEMBLY language, not assembler. You
wouldn't call C++ "compiler" would you?


You call it "compily"?

Sorry, can't resist :D

Regards.
Jul 19 '05 #32
Xenos wrote:
Real men write their programs in pure assembler code.

Sissies use C++.

Real men (and women) know that it is ASSEMBLY language, not assembler. You
wouldn't call C++ "compiler" would you?

DrX.

What a bunch of sissies. Real men write pure binary without the
assember or compiler crutch.

Jul 19 '05 #33

"Richards" <mi***@xmission.com> wrote in message
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What a bunch of sissies. Real men write pure binary without the
assember or compiler crutch.


God that brings back memorys. When I was a kid, I taught myself machine
language by hand-coding the op-codes with a monitor program on my TRS-80
Model I because I didn't have an assembler.
DrX
Jul 19 '05 #34

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