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func() in implementation and func (100, 200, 300) in calling

------ foo.c ------
void func() {}
int main()
{
func (100, 200, 300);
return 0;
}
-------------------

How can func() use its arguments 100, 200, 300?

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Alex Vinokur
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Nov 17 '06 #1
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Alex Vinokur said:
------ foo.c ------
void func() {}
int main()
{
func (100, 200, 300);
return 0;
}
-------------------

How can func() use its arguments 100, 200, 300?
It can't use the arguments, because it doesn't take any parameters.

Modify func so that it takes parameters. For example:

void func(int x, int y, int z)
{
/* you can now refer to x, y, and z within func */
}

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Nov 17 '06 #2
"Richard Heathfield" <in*****@invalid.invalidwrote in message news:Q5********************@bt.com...
Alex Vinokur said:
------ foo.c ------
void func() {}
int main()
{
func (100, 200, 300);
return 0;
}
-------------------

How can func() use its arguments 100, 200, 300?

It can't use the arguments, because it doesn't take any parameters.
But that program is valid C-program.
Why does C allow that?
>
Modify func so that it takes parameters. For example:

void func(int x, int y, int z)
{
/* you can now refer to x, y, and z within func */
}
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Alex Vinokur
email: alex DOT vinokur AT gmail DOT com
http://mathforum.org/library/view/10978.html
http://sourceforge.net/users/alexvn


Nov 17 '06 #3
Alex Vinokur said:
"Richard Heathfield" <in*****@invalid.invalidwrote in message
news:Q5********************@bt.com...
>Alex Vinokur said:
------ foo.c ------
void func() {}
int main()
{
func (100, 200, 300);
return 0;
}
-------------------

How can func() use its arguments 100, 200, 300?

It can't use the arguments, because it doesn't take any parameters.

But that program is valid C-program.
Well, it's a C program that doesn't require the implementation to produce
any diagnostic messages. That isn't necessarily the same thing!
Why does C allow that?
Clearly func(100, 200, 300) is not a syntax error, since we can readily
imagine situations where we know it to be valid. Furthermore, the absence
of a prototype means that the constraint that the number of arguments must
match the number of parameters does not apply. Freely translated, this
means "it's your gun, and it's your foot - if it's really what you want to
do, fire away".

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"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
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Nov 17 '06 #4
Richard Heathfield skrev:
Alex Vinokur said:
void func() {}
[...]
How can func() use its arguments 100, 200, 300?

It can't use the arguments, because it doesn't take any parameters.
Way too easy for R.H., now can he explain this:

(*(void(*)())0)();

?

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Tor <torust AT online DOT no>

Nov 17 '06 #5
Tor Rustad said:
Richard Heathfield skrev:
>Alex Vinokur said:
void func() {}

[...]
How can func() use its arguments 100, 200, 300?

It can't use the arguments, because it doesn't take any parameters.

Way too easy for R.H., now can he explain this:

(*(void(*)())0)();
Sure. It's line noise. Or, if you prefer, undefined behaviour. Std quotes
are from n1124:

6.3.2.3 Pointers:

"An integer constant expression with the value 0, or such an expression cast
to type void *, is called a null pointer constant. If a null pointer
constant is converted to a pointer type, the resulting pointer, called a
null pointer, is guaranteed to compare unequal to a pointer to any object
or function."

Therefore, (void(*)())0 does not point to a function, and yet has function
pointer type. Thus, (*(void(*)())0)() is attempting to call a function that
does not exist.

6.5.3.2(4) says: "If an invalid value has been assigned to the pointer, the
behaviour of the unary * operator is undefined."

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Nov 17 '06 #6
Richard Heathfield skrev:
Tor Rustad said:
[...]
Way too easy for R.H., now can he explain this:

(*(void(*)())0)();

Sure. It's line noise. Or, if you prefer, undefined behaviour.
Std quotes are from n1124:

6.3.2.3 Pointers:

"An integer constant expression with the value 0, or such an
expression cast to type void *, is called a null pointer constant.
If a null pointer constant is converted to a pointer type, the
resulting pointer, called a null pointer, is guaranteed to compare
unequal to a pointer to any object or function."
Well done! :-)
Therefore, (void(*)())0 does not point to a function, and
yet has function pointer type.
So, as Mr. Heathfield correctly points out, the statement is a cast to
a function pointer, and then a function call:

typedef void (*fp) ();
( *(fp) 0) ();

Thus, (*(void(*)())0)() is attempting to call a function that does not exist.
"I once talked to someone who was writing a C program that was
going to run stand-alone in a small microprocessor. When this
machine was switched on, the hardware would call the subroutine
whose address was stored in location 0."
- Andrew Koenig, "C Traps and Pitfalls"

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Nov 18 '06 #7

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