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_JoyDef and _Control

Hello, I'm trying to get the source from a old dos game (Rise Of The
Triad) to compile with openwatcom, and keep getting the undefined
symbol error for _JoyDef and _Control. Now I assume this means I'm
missing a library somewhere, does anyone know which one it could be?

Thanks!
Oct 13 '06
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"Old Wolf" <ol*****@inspire.net.nzwrote in message
news:11*********************@m7g2000cwm.googlegrou ps.com...
IMHO, McCormack is sour because he perceives a clique
and considers that he has not been accepted by it, so he
is throwing his toys out of the cot. How's that for pop
psychology?
Pretty poor. I perceive a clique, too. I don't care at all whether or not
I'm accepted by it. But, I would like to see an end to it because it
alienates a large number of people who have valid C questions. The
"regulars" frequently and unjustly attack these people with intensely rude
and angry responses.
As I stated to Healthfield, I think it's important that people
learn about Aspergers. And, there are some people here
who need to read it.

You don't seem to realise how insulting this is. It's about
on the same level as asking a black man if he needs help
with his congenital laziness.
You apparently didn't read the majority of my posts on this topic. I'd
suggest you do so prior to commenting.

As I stated previously to Healthfield,

RPI'm trying to get you to realize that potentially helping one
RPindividual through his or her own self-diagnose of mental illness,
RPcorrect or not, by reading about Asperger's is important. I would
RPthink that given that you actually know someone with Aspergers,
RPthat it'd be especially important to you to have the whole World
RPread up on it. Why do you seem so cold or indifferent?

Heathfield, who claimed to actually know "a friend's" child with Aspergers,
seems intent on burying all conversion related to Asperger's instead of
educating people about the illness. That's not characteristic of an
individual in a position to help someone in need. That's the characteristic
of someone trying to hide or bury the truth. (How's that for "pop"
psychology?)
Rod Pemberton
Nov 1 '06 #51
"Rod Pemberton" <do*********@bitfoad.cmmwrites:
[...]
Heathfield, who claimed to actually know "a friend's" child with Aspergers,
seems intent on burying all conversion related to Asperger's instead of
educating people about the illness.
If you want to talk about Asperger's, talk about it someplace where
it's topical. If you actually care about it, and you want to educate
people about it or be educated yourself, I encourage you to do so.

This is comp.lang.c. It exists for the purpose of discussing the C
programming language.

Do you understand why we have separate newsgroups for distinct topics,
rather than one huge "misc.misc"? Or do you think comp.lang.c should
be buried in lengthy discussions of every topic that *you* happen to
think is important?

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks***@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
San Diego Supercomputer Center <* <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst>
We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this.
Nov 1 '06 #52

"Keith Thompson" <ks***@mib.orgwrote in message
news:ln************@nuthaus.mib.org...
"Rod Pemberton" <do*********@bitfoad.cmmwrites:
[...]
Heathfield, who claimed to actually know "a friend's" child with
Aspergers,
seems intent on burying all conversion related to Asperger's instead of
educating people about the illness.

This is comp.lang.c. It exists for the purpose of discussing the C
programming language.
NO! It is an unmoderated newsgroup where anything anyone posts is topical
whether or not it happens to be on C. Take it to a moderated newsgroup if
you _only_ _want_ discussions about C.
Do you understand why we have separate newsgroups for distinct topics,
rather than one huge "misc.misc"? Or do you think comp.lang.c should
be buried in lengthy discussions of every topic that *you* happen to
think is important?
Do you understand the difference between a moderated and unmoderated
newsgroup? (No.)

Have you begun to understand no one wants to hear your complaints such as
this one? (No.)
Rod Pemberton
Nov 1 '06 #53

Rod Pemberton wrote:
"Keith Thompson" <ks***@mib.orgwrote in message
news:ln************@nuthaus.mib.org...

This is comp.lang.c. It exists for the purpose of discussing the C
programming language.

NO! It is an unmoderated newsgroup where anything anyone posts is topical
whether or not it happens to be on C. Take it to a moderated newsgroup if
you _only_ _want_ discussions about C.
Don't be ridiculous.
Do you understand the difference between a moderated and unmoderated
newsgroup? (No.)
Yes.
Have you begun to understand no one wants to hear your complaints such as
this one? (No.)
There probably are some people who want to hear them. I don't, and I
find it a nuisance that people persist deliberately in making them
necessary. I guess that for as long as they're necessary I'll have to
put up with them.

Nov 1 '06 #54
"Rod Pemberton" <do*********@bitfoad.cmmwrites:
"Keith Thompson" <ks***@mib.orgwrote in message
news:ln************@nuthaus.mib.org...
>"Rod Pemberton" <do*********@bitfoad.cmmwrites:
[...]
Heathfield, who claimed to actually know "a friend's" child with
Aspergers,
seems intent on burying all conversion related to Asperger's instead of
educating people about the illness.

This is comp.lang.c. It exists for the purpose of discussing the C
programming language.

NO! It is an unmoderated newsgroup where anything anyone posts is topical
whether or not it happens to be on C. Take it to a moderated newsgroup if
you _only_ _want_ discussions about C.
>Do you understand why we have separate newsgroups for distinct topics,
rather than one huge "misc.misc"? Or do you think comp.lang.c should
be buried in lengthy discussions of every topic that *you* happen to
think is important?

Do you understand the difference between a moderated and unmoderated
newsgroup? (No.)

Have you begun to understand no one wants to hear your complaints such as
this one? (No.)
I see that you've decided to be a full-fledged troll. So be it.
I don't use a killfile, but consider this a virtual plonk.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks***@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
San Diego Supercomputer Center <* <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst>
We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this.
Nov 1 '06 #55

"J. J. Farrell" <jj*@bcs.org.ukwrote in message
news:11**********************@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>
Rod Pemberton wrote:
"Keith Thompson" <ks***@mib.orgwrote in message
news:ln************@nuthaus.mib.org...
>
This is comp.lang.c. It exists for the purpose of discussing the C
programming language.
NO! It is an unmoderated newsgroup where anything anyone posts is
topical
whether or not it happens to be on C. Take it to a moderated newsgroup
if
you _only_ _want_ discussions about C.

Don't be ridiculous.
I'm __100%__ serious. If you aren't interested or have a low tolerance to
unmoderated conversation, you're the problem. Ignore it, or go somewhere
else.
Do you understand the difference between a moderated and unmoderated
newsgroup? (No.)

Yes.
If so, then you'd have known I was serious.
Have you begun to understand no one wants to hear your complaints such
as
this one? (No.)

There probably are some people who want to hear them. I don't, and I
find it a nuisance that people persist deliberately in making them
necessary. I guess that for as long as they're necessary I'll have to
put up with them.
If that's true, why are whining _exclusively_ to me...?
Rod Pemberton


Nov 1 '06 #56
Rod Pemberton wrote:
"Keith Thompson" <ks***@mib.orgwrote in message
.... snip ...
>>
This is comp.lang.c. It exists for the purpose of discussing
the C programming language.

NO! It is an unmoderated newsgroup where anything anyone posts
is topical whether or not it happens to be on C. Take it to a
moderated newsgroup if you _only_ _want_ discussions about C.
Back in the sinbin you go.

--
Some informative links:
<news:news.announce.newusers
<http://www.geocities.com/nnqweb/>
<http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html>
<http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html>
<http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html>
<http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/>
Nov 1 '06 #57
Rod Pemberton said:

<snip>
As I stated previously to Healthfield,
There's that typo again. The one we both know only ever happened once.
Heathfield, who claimed to actually know "a friend's" child with
Aspergers,
"Claimed"?
seems intent on burying all conversion related to Asperger's
No, I'm not intent on burying /any/ conversions. But if you want to talk
about psychiatry, there are newsgroups for that. This ain't one of them.

I've tried hard not to think of you as a troll, but it's getting more
difficult day by day.

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
Nov 1 '06 #58

Rod Pemberton wrote:
"J. J. Farrell" <jj*@bcs.org.ukwrote in message
news:11**********************@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...

Rod Pemberton wrote:
"Keith Thompson" <ks***@mib.orgwrote in message
news:ln************@nuthaus.mib.org...

This is comp.lang.c. It exists for the purpose of discussing the C
programming language.
>
NO! It is an unmoderated newsgroup where anything anyone posts is
topical whether or not it happens to be on C. Take it to a moderated
newsgroup if you _only_ _want_ discussions about C.
Don't be ridiculous.

I'm __100%__ serious. If you aren't interested or have a low tolerance to
unmoderated conversation, you're the problem. Ignore it, or go somewhere
else.
I didn't comment on whether or not you were serious; though if you were
you must have either an extreme lack of understanding of social
discussion in general and Usenet in particular, or be trolling.
Do you understand the difference between a moderated and unmoderated
newsgroup? (No.)
Yes.

If so, then you'd have known I was serious.
It has no bearing on whether or not you were serious, but it does on
whether or not you were ridiculous. If the difference between moderated
and unmoderated newsgroups were related to your comment above, then
there would be exactly one unmoderated newsgroup.
Have you begun to understand no one wants to hear your complaints such
as this one? (No.)
There probably are some people who want to hear them. I don't, and I
find it a nuisance that people persist deliberately in making them
necessary. I guess that for as long as they're necessary I'll have to
put up with them.

If that's true, why are whining _exclusively_ to me...?
Don't take it personally - I said "people" not "you". You just happen
to be the poster of the message I replied to, as someone has to be. I
try to resist getting involved in these discussions as there are far
too many of them; but some ideas need challenging. It also does no harm
to point out occasionally that there are others here who prefer the
group to stay on-topic. We don't join in the attempts to keep things on
topic since we know others will do so, and more doing so would only
make matters worse.

Nov 1 '06 #59
"Rod Pemberton" <do*********@bitfoad.cmmwrites:
"Keith Thompson" <ks***@mib.orgwrote in message
news:ln************@nuthaus.mib.org...
This is comp.lang.c. It exists for the purpose of discussing the C
programming language.

NO! It is an unmoderated newsgroup where anything anyone posts is topical
whether or not it happens to be on C. Take it to a moderated newsgroup if
you _only_ _want_ discussions about C.
Then by that logic, everything that anyone posts -- including
admonitions that this is a newsgroup about C, and that better help for
platform-specific problems is available in other newsgroups -- is
appropriate as well. If you really believe what you've claimed above,
where do you get off complaining about what other people post?

I'm in comp.lang.c because I want informed discussions about C, not
amateur psychoanalyis of other posters or endless discussions about
the minutiae of operating systems and compilers I don't use.

Charlton

Nov 1 '06 #60
In article <87************@mithril.chromatico.net>,
Charlton Wilbur <cw*****@mithril.chromatico.netwrote:
>"Rod Pemberton" <do*********@bitfoad.cmmwrites:
....
>NO! It is an unmoderated newsgroup where anything anyone posts is topical
whether or not it happens to be on C. Take it to a moderated newsgroup if
you _only_ _want_ discussions about C.

Then by that logic, everything that anyone posts -- including
admonitions that this is a newsgroup about C, and that better help for
platform-specific problems is available in other newsgroups -- is
appropriate as well. If you really believe what you've claimed above,
where do you get off complaining about what other people post?
That's an old chestnut of an infinite regress. Someone posts something
that somebody else doesn't like (usually thinly veiled in a claim that
it is "not appropriate" or "off topic"). So person B posts that person
A shouldn't have posted that. Then person A (ludicrously) invokes the
First Amendment and gets all huffy about free speech. Then person B
states (as you have) that if person A were so infatuated with free
speech, he'd have no problem with person B's post. Then person A
objects to person B's posting, ... And so on, and so on.
>I'm in comp.lang.c because I want informed discussions about C, not
amateur psychoanalyis of other posters or endless discussions about
the minutiae of operating systems and compilers I don't use.
There is a reason that "Rule #1" on the Usenet is: If you don't like it,
ignore it and move on (*). Violations of this rule never lead to
anything productive.

(*) Except for this group, for some reason...

Nov 1 '06 #61
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 02:19:31 UTC, "Rod Pemberton"
<do*********@bitfoad.cmmwrote:
>
"Keith Thompson" <ks***@mib.orgwrote in message
news:ln************@nuthaus.mib.org...
"Rod Pemberton" <do*********@bitfoad.cmmwrites:
[...]
Heathfield, who claimed to actually know "a friend's" child with
Aspergers,
seems intent on burying all conversion related to Asperger's instead of
educating people about the illness.
This is comp.lang.c. It exists for the purpose of discussing the C
programming language.

NO! It is an unmoderated newsgroup where anything anyone posts is topical
whether or not it happens to be on C. Take it to a moderated newsgroup if
you _only_ _want_ discussions about C.
You've identified yourself als twit now. Piss off usenet until you
knows what it is, what it means and what it is used for.
--
Tschau/Bye
Herbert

Visit http://www.ecomstation.de the home of german eComStation
eComStation 1.2 Deutsch ist da!
Nov 1 '06 #62
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 09:02:04 UTC, "J. J. Farrell" <jj*@bcs.org.uk>
wrote:
>
Rod Pemberton wrote:
"J. J. Farrell" <jj*@bcs.org.ukwrote in message
news:11**********************@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>
Rod Pemberton wrote:
"Keith Thompson" <ks***@mib.orgwrote in message
news:ln************@nuthaus.mib.org...
>
This is comp.lang.c. It exists for the purpose of discussing the C
programming language.

NO! It is an unmoderated newsgroup where anything anyone posts is
topical whether or not it happens to be on C. Take it to a moderated
newsgroup if you _only_ _want_ discussions about C.
>
Don't be ridiculous.
I'm __100%__ serious. If you aren't interested or have a low tolerance to
unmoderated conversation, you're the problem. Ignore it, or go somewhere
else.

I didn't comment on whether or not you were serious; though if you were
you must have either an extreme lack of understanding of social
discussion in general and Usenet in particular, or be trolling.
It makes no sense to discuss with twits. Put this twit in your filters
and stop anything that has to do with him.
--
Tschau/Bye
Herbert

Visit http://www.ecomstation.de the home of german eComStation
eComStation 1.2 Deutsch ist da!
Nov 1 '06 #63
In article <wm***************************@JUPITER1.PC-ROSENAU.DE>,
Herbert Rosenau <os****@pc-rosenau.dewrote:
....
>It makes no sense to discuss with twits. Put this twit in your filters
and stop anything that has to do with him.
Which brings up the very real question: Why do we, any of us, bother
posting to Usenet? For those who *seek* help, the answer is clear: They
are willing to prostrate themselves in front of those they perceive to be
exports, in the hope, infinitesimal though it may be, of actually
getting some useful help. That they almost get (some variation of) "Off
topic. Can't discuss it here, etc" doesn't seem to deter them (much).

But what us? Why do we do it? What needs of ours are being met?
I, at least, am honest about it. I do it because it is fun and I enjoy
it. But about KT, RH, et al? What do they get out of it? Are their
lives this empty? Enquiring minds want to know.

Nov 1 '06 #64
In article <wm***************************@JUPITER1.PC-ROSENAU.DE>,
Herbert Rosenau <os****@pc-rosenau.dewrote:
....
>You've identified yourself als twit now. Piss off usenet until you
knows what it is, what it means and what it is used for.
See my other post. Thank you.

Nov 1 '06 #65
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 21:19:31 -0500, in comp.lang.c , "Rod Pemberton"
<do*********@bitfoad.cmmwrote:
>
"Keith Thompson" <ks***@mib.orgwrote in message
news:ln************@nuthaus.mib.org...
>"Rod Pemberton" <do*********@bitfoad.cmmwrites:
[...]
Heathfield, who claimed to actually know "a friend's" child with Aspergers,
seems intent on burying all conversion related to Asperger's instead of
educating people about the illness.

This is comp.lang.c. It exists for the purpose of discussing the C
programming language.

NO! It is an unmoderated newsgroup where anything anyone posts is topical
whether or not it happens to be on C. Take it to a moderated newsgroup if
you _only_ _want_ discussions about C.
So you admit that you consider yourself above the rules of ettiquette
that hold in this society, and have an arrogant disregard for the
agreed standards of the groups with which you wish to interact.
Interesting.
>Do you understand the difference between a moderated and unmoderated
newsgroup? (No.)
Do you understand that unmoderated does not equal free-for-all?
Apparently not.

And by the way, my son has Aspergers. So fuck off already with your
condecending attitude. We don't need prats like you trying to
'educate' people.

--
Mark McIntyre

"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it."
--Brian Kernighan
Nov 1 '06 #66
2006-11-01 <ft********************************@4ax.com>,
Mark McIntyre wrote:
Do you understand that unmoderated does not equal free-for-all?
Apparently not.
There's irony in here somewhere. I just don't know how to explain it
And by the way, my son has Aspergers.
I have it, but didn't figure it had any bearing on the discussion.
I figured it wasn't worth the effort to get offended, since I already
knew Kenny's an ass*.

--
*language may not be appropriate, but, hey, you said the F-word, so in
comparison...
Nov 2 '06 #67
Jordan Abel said:
I already knew Kenny's an ass*.

*language may not be appropriate,
I wasn't sure what you meant, so I found the word "ass" in Chambers, and
this is what I read:

"a small, usu grey, long-eared animal of the horse genus; a dull, stupid
fellow, a fool (colloq)".

I presume from your hesitation in using the word that you are not talking
about horses, but on this occasion the colloquialism seems perfectly
appropriate to me.

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
Nov 2 '06 #68
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:03:46 UTC, ga*****@xmission.xmission.com (Kenny
McCormack) wrote:
In article <wm***************************@JUPITER1.PC-ROSENAU.DE>,
Herbert Rosenau <os****@pc-rosenau.dewrote:
...
It makes no sense to discuss with twits. Put this twit in your filters
and stop anything that has to do with him.

Which brings up the very real question: Why do we, any of us, bother
posting to Usenet? For those who *seek* help, the answer is clear: They
are willing to prostrate themselves in front of those they perceive to be
exports, in the hope, infinitesimal though it may be, of actually
getting some useful help. That they almost get (some variation of) "Off
topic. Can't discuss it here, etc" doesn't seem to deter them (much).

But what us? Why do we do it? What needs of ours are being met?
I, at least, am honest about it. I do it because it is fun and I enjoy
it. But about KT, RH, et al? What do they get out of it? Are their
lives this empty? Enquiring minds want to know.
I read a lot of groups I'm interested in. On some of them I will never
post because on lack of fundamental knowledge. On others I like to
post because I have the knoweledge oft the themes ontopic there and I
like to help others asking for help.

In some groups I find kooks, trolls, twits who have all no brain but
interested in disturbing any communication. Sometimes it is easy to
get them out of the group, sometimes it is not. When the number of
kooks, twits and trolls is less then filters can help - even as I
don't like to use them, someteimes it's the only solution. When a new
expert of disturbing groups comes it it can help to get them in many
filters quickly by pointing that out - and having the group clean
again thereafter.

When nothing helps the group gets out of control, out of interest and
into slum - anybody who is interesting in discussion or helping others
on that theme will live the group and another theme gets out of help.

--
Tschau/Bye
Herbert

Visit http://www.ecomstation.de the home of german eComStation
eComStation 1.2 Deutsch ist da!
Nov 2 '06 #69
Herbert Rosenau <os****@pc-rosenau.dewrote:
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:03:46 UTC, ga*****@xmission.xmission.com (Kenny
McCormack) wrote:
In article <wm***************************@JUPITER1.PC-ROSENAU.DE>,
Herbert Rosenau <os****@pc-rosenau.dewrote:
...
>It makes no sense to discuss with twits. Put this twit in your filters
>and stop anything that has to do with him.
(snip Kennyspeak)
In some groups I find kooks, trolls, twits who have all no brain but
interested in disturbing any communication.
Kenny is exactly such a troll/twit and you will be much happier
filtering him rather than attempting to discuss anything sensible with
him.

--
C. Benson Manica | I *should* know what I'm talking about - if I
cbmanica(at)gmail.com | don't, I need to know. Flames welcome.
Nov 2 '06 #70
2006-11-02 <We********************@bt.com>,
Richard Heathfield wrote:
Jordan Abel said:
>I already knew Kenny's an ass*.

*language may not be appropriate,

I wasn't sure what you meant, so I found the word "ass" in Chambers, and
this is what I read:

"a small, usu grey, long-eared animal of the horse genus; a dull, stupid
fellow, a fool (colloq)".

I presume from your hesitation in using the word that you are not talking
about horses, but on this occasion the colloquialism seems perfectly
appropriate to me.
Right, I forgot - you're british, aren't you? "ass" is a north american
variant form of the word you might instead spell as "arse", and is
generally numbered among the so-called "bad words", though it's
certainly milder than most others. You're basically right about "seems
perfectly appropriate", though, in so far as I could not find
a substitute word that would have fit as well.
Nov 2 '06 #71
Jordan Abel:
"ass" is a north american variant form of the word you might instead
spell as "arse", and is generally numbered among the so-called "bad
words", though it's certainly milder than most others.
"ass" isn't censored in daytime television here in Ireland, nor is "bitch".

It's quite funny to watch overseas channels which censor these words. I was
watching the medical comedy, "Scrubs", the other day on the channel,
"Paramount Comedy", and they censored "ass" and "bitch" quite a few times
throughout the episode.

On the Irish channels, they go uncensored.

--

Frederick Gotham
Nov 2 '06 #72
Christopher Benson-Manica <at***@otaku.freeshell.orgwrites:
Kenny is exactly such a troll/twit and you will be much happier
filtering him rather than attempting to discuss anything sensible
with him.
I'm not sure he's a troll, because that implies that he's doing what
he does with the specific intention of disrupting communication. I
think he's doing what he does because he thinks the end result will
*improve* the newsgroup -- because the focus of what Kenny calls the
clique on portable standard C does seem hostile to people who are
unfamiliar with the concepts of portable and standard languages.

But the problem with his theory is one I've seen in several fora. The
more tolerant a group is of lazy newbies, and the more effort a group
puts into coddling the lazy newbies, the more likely the gurus are to
wander off to do things they find more interesting. It *seems* like a
good idea to be tolerant of newbies, and to say, "you know, $newsgroup
is a better place to ask this, but because I'm nice, I'll answer it
here." And 7 or 8 out of 10 newbies get the hint, and ask further
questions in the other newsgroup; but the message the other 2 or 3
take away is "I asked a question in comp.lang.c, and it got answered."

And then they ask more basic questions, and the people who want to be
helpful help until they are burnt out and then they go away; and by
the time the first round of helpful people are gone, the gurus have
long since left, and the forum is no longer useful for beginners
(because the helpful people in the second round or later are unlikely
to have the same level of expertise as the burnt out people or the
gurus) or for experts (because the gurus have left).

Of course, if Kenny can't see this happening in other places, or
considers it a positive development, then he most likely is a troll --
just one with longer-term plans than most.

Charlton


Nov 2 '06 #73
Charlton Wilbur said:

<snip>
>
And then they ask more basic questions, and the people who want to be
helpful help until they are burnt out and then they go away; and by
the time the first round of helpful people are gone, the gurus have
long since left, and the forum is no longer useful for beginners
(because the helpful people in the second round or later are unlikely
to have the same level of expertise as the burnt out people or the
gurus) or for experts (because the gurus have left).
This is already happening. In the last few years we've lost Christian Bau,
Tanmoy Bhattacharya, Billy Chambless, Doug Gwyn, Lawrence Kirby, Kaz
Kylheku, Mikey Lee, Dan Pop, Will Rose, Michael Rubinstein, Jens
Schweikhardt, Richard Stamp, Tom Torfs, Steve Summit (effectively), Stefan
Wilms, and quite a few others besides.

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
Nov 2 '06 #74
Charlton Wilbur <cw*****@mithril.chromatico.netwrites:
Christopher Benson-Manica <at***@otaku.freeshell.orgwrites:
>Kenny is exactly such a troll/twit and you will be much happier
filtering him rather than attempting to discuss anything sensible
with him.

I'm not sure he's a troll, because that implies that he's doing what
he does with the specific intention of disrupting communication. I
think he's doing what he does because he thinks the end result will
*improve* the newsgroup -- because the focus of what Kenny calls the
clique on portable standard C does seem hostile to people who are
unfamiliar with the concepts of portable and standard languages.
[...]

You give him far too much credit. Kenny is a troll; he has proudly
said so himself. Take a look at his posting history.

It's conceivable, I suppose, that he has some other motivation, but I
really don't care. I judge him by his repeated actions over a period
of years. And the sooner we stop discussing him, and giving him the
attention he seems to want, the better.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks***@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
San Diego Supercomputer Center <* <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst>
We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this.
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