Most annoying aspects of C++

[Michael Hopkins]

Hi all

We all know that C++ is a cleverly conceived multi-paradigm language that
sacrifices very little in efficiency for what it delivers in terms of
type-safety, encapsulation and generic behaviour.

What I want to ask here is - what are the features that people most dislike
about it i.e. that:

- make it more difficult than necessary to implement designs

- introduce subtle bugs

- force the developer to think in counter-intuitive ways

- make managing a software project more troublesome

- make using or producing libraries inconvenient

There may be others. I am not talking about subjective things like syntax,
more concerned with tangible design & software engineering issues.

Michael
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[Julián Albo]

ax wrote:

"Most annoying aspects of C++" is that c++ programmers think to be
smart in doing abstractions and "costruzioni barocche" and not see the
essential: how could be good a small obj file and how it is good
understand machine code (assembly) for doing all small and efficient

I understand assembly, but lacked the need to use it for years. Not
essential at all in the majority of tasks.

And is not an annoying aspect of C++ at all. Maybe the fact that assembler
is not so important as in early years of PC era is that annoys you and
other assembler enthusiasts, not C++.

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[ax]

On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:11:46 -0400, "Victor Bazarov"
<v.********@comAcast.net> wrote:

ax wrote:

[..]
"Most annoying aspects of C++" is that c++ programmers think to be
smart in doing abstractions and "costruzioni barocche" and not see the
essential: how could be good a small obj file and how it is good
understand machine code (assembly) for doing all small and efficient

Well, isn't that a characteristic of *any* high-level language?
At some point, in our cruel world of hard competition, time-to-market is
the defining factor. With other things relatively equal, I'd rather be
paid for my product *now* so I can feed myself and my family, and *then*
spend time making it smaller and faster, than not be paid at all because
someone sold their product before I could. It's harder to re-capture
the market than to capture it.

yes
if not for c++, problem of optimisation is a real problem
i can see this when some program start
when i turn on my PC
when i turn on my telephone
when i turn on my DVD player etc
programs are file too big
they consume too much time for load and start, or doing something
useful.
those programs could be in c++, so optimisation could be a c++
business too.

[Kevin Handy]

Victor Bazarov wrote:

As opposed to what?

Here is what I think of your current list
[
These are the most annoying aspects of cars, for what it's worth:
- need gas to run
- not enough room to carry all my belongings
- uncomfortable seats
- short warranty leading to expensive repairs later
- going too fast often leads to a speeding ticket
- not enough protection against crashes
- the need to keep many things in mind at once when driving
]

V

- No built-in bathroom
- Doesn't fly (was promised this in the 60's)
- No super-model in the passanger seat, like in the ads.
- No machine gun turrets, nor missle launchers, not even
a single oil-slick generator; like in the Bind films.

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