Who define __cdecl, __stdcall, etc...

[kwijibo28]

Hi all,

I was wondering if there is a standard definition for the calling
convention like __cdecl and __stdcall. I've search the c++ standard
document and there is no mention of __cdecl or __stdcall. I'm not very
surprise, for the committe, how to pass argument from a function to an
other, must be an implementation detail left to the compiler vendor.

But since in real life people write library which are build with a
compiler and use possibly by another compiler, compiler vendor must
agree on a common definition. I guess that definition should also
specify how to decorate function name according to a calling
convention.

I'm asking this question because recently I've build a dll with a MS
compiler and my client had a borland and we've found out that both
compiler don't agree on function decoration for __cdecl and __stdcall.

Thanks
Kwijibo28

[Mike Smith]

kwijibo28 wrote:

Hi all,

I was wondering if there is a standard definition for the calling
convention like __cdecl and __stdcall. I've search the c++ standard
document and there is no mention of __cdecl or __stdcall. I'm not very
surprise, for the committe, how to pass argument from a function to an
other, must be an implementation detail left to the compiler vendor.

But since in real life people write library which are build with a
compiler and use possibly by another compiler, compiler vendor must
agree on a common definition. I guess that definition should also
specify how to decorate function name according to a calling
convention.

I'm asking this question because recently I've build a dll with a MS
compiler and my client had a borland and we've found out that both
compiler don't agree on function decoration for __cdecl and __stdcall.

Neither of those vendor-specific directives have anything to do with C++
name-mangling - they refer instead to argument passing and stack
cleanup. Sadly, no two vendors seem to agree on a name-mangling scheme,
which leaves us relying on COM, CORBA, or plain-jane C for interoperability.

--
Mike Smith

[Markus Schoder]

Mike Smith wrote:

kwijibo28 wrote:

Hi all,

I was wondering if there is a standard definition for the calling
convention like __cdecl and __stdcall. I've search the c++ standard
document and there is no mention of __cdecl or __stdcall. I'm not very
surprise, for the committe, how to pass argument from a function to an
other, must be an implementation detail left to the compiler vendor.

But since in real life people write library which are build with a
compiler and use possibly by another compiler, compiler vendor must
agree on a common definition. I guess that definition should also
specify how to decorate function name according to a calling
convention.

I'm asking this question because recently I've build a dll with a MS
compiler and my client had a borland and we've found out that both
compiler don't agree on function decoration for __cdecl and __stdcall.

Neither of those vendor-specific directives have anything to do with C++
name-mangling - they refer instead to argument passing and stack
cleanup. Sadly, no two vendors seem to agree on a name-mangling scheme,
which leaves us relying on COM, CORBA, or plain-jane C for interoperability.

Vendors are well adviced to choose different name-mangling schemes
_unless_ their compilers are truely binary compatible. This includes
not only function calling conventions but at least the standard library
implementation, virtual tables, exception handling and RTTI. This would
indeed tie the two implementations very closely together.

[kwijibo28]

Mike Smith wrote:

Neither of those vendor-specific directives have anything to do with C++
name-mangling - they refer instead to argument passing and stack
cleanup. Sadly, no two vendors seem to agree on a name-mangling scheme,
which leaves us relying on COM, CORBA, or plain-jane C for interoperability.

Alright thanks for the info,

I will try to provide a plain C interface for my dll then. And I will
continue my investigation in a C forum. (I don't want to get flame
because I'm getting off-topic!)

Kwijibo28

[Mike Smith]

Markus Schoder wrote:

Mike Smith wrote:

kwijibo28 wrote:

Hi all,

I was wondering if there is a standard definition for the calling
convention like __cdecl and __stdcall. I've search the c++ standard
document and there is no mention of __cdecl or __stdcall. I'm not very
surprise, for the committe, how to pass argument from a function to an
other, must be an implementation detail left to the compiler vendor.

But since in real life people write library which are build with a
compiler and use possibly by another compiler, compiler vendor must
agree on a common definition. I guess that definition should also
specify how to decorate function name according to a calling
convention.

I'm asking this question because recently I've build a dll with a MS
compiler and my client had a borland and we've found out that both
compiler don't agree on function decoration for __cdecl and __stdcall.

Neither of those vendor-specific directives have anything to do with C++
name-mangling - they refer instead to argument passing and stack
cleanup. Sadly, no two vendors seem to agree on a name-mangling scheme,
which leaves us relying on COM, CORBA, or plain-jane C for interoperability.

Vendors are well adviced to choose different name-mangling schemes
_unless_ their compilers are truely binary compatible. This includes
not only function calling conventions but at least the standard library
implementation, virtual tables, exception handling and RTTI. This would
indeed tie the two implementations very closely together.

Well, yes. What I should have said was "sadly, on most platforms, there
is no commonly accepted C++ ABI that allows interoperability between
compilers".

--
Mike Smith

[mylea]

when a dll written by MS is used in BCB, there need a convertion. for example,a dll named "Test.dll" is compiled by MS,and there is a file named "Test.lib". you should use BCB tool named "implib.exe". its location is "$(BCBDir)/bin". just follow the steps.
implib.exe Test.lib Test.dll
then,a new lib file is created,and it can be used in your BCB project.
when you declare the function defined in Test.dll, you should do like this:
#define IMPORT __declspec(dllimport)
IMPORT void __stdcall Test();
the function Test() is just an example.