C++ for windows while camping outdoors.

[DaLoverhino]

Hello, I could just use GNU's stuff and cygwin's commandline stuff to
do Windows XP development, but that would be sort of like going outdoor
camping in a mobile home. I want to know how it would feel to be a
windows developer.

Is there a decent IDE C/C++ compiler for windows, like Borland or
Microsoft C++?
I plan to write mostly commandline interfaces. But, I want to slowly
branch out to making actual Windows apps. Ideally, I'd just like a
nice gui front end to GNU compiler.

I looked at buying Borland compiler, but it's over $1000. They got a
free 1 month trial, but anything non-trivial will take more than a
month to write up.

So what are come cheap/free alternatives?

Thanks.

[Alf P. Steinbach]

* DaLoverhino:

Hello, I could just use GNU's stuff and cygwin's commandline stuff to
do Windows XP development, but that would be sort of like going outdoor
camping in a mobile home. I want to know how it would feel to be a
windows developer.

Is there a decent IDE C/C++ compiler for windows, like Borland or
Microsoft C++?
I plan to write mostly commandline interfaces. But, I want to slowly
branch out to making actual Windows apps. Ideally, I'd just like a
nice gui front end to GNU compiler.
You do not need an IDE to create GUI applications, no matter the
operating system (which, by the way, is off-topic here...).

I looked at buying Borland compiler, but it's over $1000. They got a
free 1 month trial, but anything non-trivial will take more than a
month to write up.

So what are come cheap/free alternatives?

Free C++ IDEs for Windows (I have no experience with them except
as noted):

* Microsoft's Visual Studio Express.

* CodeBlocks (reportedly the heir to DevC++).

* Bloodshed Dev-C++ (reportedly no longer maintained, but when
I looked at the web site now it says "Dev-C++ 5 (currently beta)").

* Eclipse (reportedly works "best" with g++, when I tried it a
few years ago it was not a work-saver, to put it that way)

* Ultimate C++ IDE (looked at it recently, it gave me the same
impression as ISE Eiffel once did, all restricted to some very
unconventional notion of how things should work, not much
recognizable -- which is sad, because it's obviously someone's
pride, a lot of work gone into it).

Hth.,

- Alf

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[Victor Bazarov]

DaLoverhino wrote:

Hello, I could just use GNU's stuff and cygwin's commandline stuff to
do Windows XP development, but that would be sort of like going
outdoor camping in a mobile home. I want to know how it would feel
to be a windows developer.
And you're posting in a _language_ newsgroup [instead of a Windows
newsgroup] because... ?
Is there a decent IDE C/C++ compiler for windows, like Borland or
Microsoft C++?
<offtopic>
Why "like"? Isn't Microsoft C++ available to you? Download their 2005
Express, and you get a nice IDE.
</offtopic>
I plan to write mostly commandline interfaces. But, I want to slowly
branch out to making actual Windows apps. Ideally, I'd just like a
nice gui front end to GNU compiler.
<offtopic>
Then use Dev-C++ (I believe it exists on more than one platform).
</offtopic>
I looked at buying Borland compiler, but it's over $1000. They got a
free 1 month trial, but anything non-trivial will take more than a
month to write up.

So what are come cheap/free alternatives?

Post to a Windows newsgroup, please. We try not to discuss products here.

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[DaLoverhino]

Victor Bazarov wrote:

And you're posting in a _language_ newsgroup [instead of a Windows
newsgroup] because... ?

Because I'm a retard? Anyways, thanks for the suggestions guys.

[Chris Hills]

In article <11*********************@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups. com>,
DaLoverhino <Da*********@hotmail.com> writes

Hello, I could just use GNU's stuff and cygwin's commandline stuff to
do Windows XP development, but that would be sort of like going outdoor
camping in a mobile home. I want to know how it would feel to be a
windows developer.

Is there a decent IDE C/C++ compiler for windows, like Borland or
Microsoft C++?

Yes... MSC++ there is an "Express" version that is free to download and
use on their web site. It's all you need.
I plan to write mostly commandline interfaces. But, I want to slowly
branch out to making actual Windows apps.
The free MS system has wizards for both.
Ideally, I'd just like a
nice gui front end to GNU compiler.
Well you may as well use the MS IDE with their compiler and libraries.
I looked at buying Borland compiler, but it's over $1000. They got a
free 1 month trial, but anything non-trivial will take more than a
month to write up.
So what are come cheap/free alternatives?

Borland also give away their command line compilers FREE you would need
a to find an IDE.

You should also be posting to a Windows development NG not a language
specific NG They will probably be able to give you the links for the
free MS compilers

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