Test message - PLEASE IGNORE

[Vladimir S. Oka]

Please ignore...

Thanks

Vladimir

[Keith Thompson]

"Vladimir S. Oka" <no****@btopenworld.com> writes:

Please ignore...

Thanks

Vladimir

There are several newsgroups for test messages. alt.test is one of
them. comp.lang.c is not.

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San Diego Supercomputer Center <*> <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst>
We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this.

[Kenny McCormack]

In article <ln************@nuthaus.mib.org>,
Keith Thompson <ks***@mib.org> wrote:

"Vladimir S. Oka" <no****@btopenworld.com> writes:

Please ignore...

Thanks

Vladimir

There are several newsgroups for test messages. alt.test is one of
them. comp.lang.c is not.

What part of "ignore" (he even said "please"!) was unclear in your feeble
little brain?

Pedant's note: (In case you're thinking of doing a "nanny nanny boo boo",
please note that) Keith did *not* request that *his* message be ignored,
hence I am in the clear in taking the time and effort to try to educate
him. The same cannot, of course, be said of/for Keith.

[Vladimir S. Oka]

Keith Thompson wrote:

"Vladimir S. Oka" <no****@btopenworld.com> writes:

Please ignore...

Thanks

Vladimir

There are several newsgroups for test messages. alt.test is one of
them. comp.lang.c is not.

Thanks, although I knew that already.

My problem was erratic posting behaviour to c.l.c in particular, and
only c.l.c of all my subscribed groups, so I doubt that posting to
alt.test would have helped much in my investigation. Hence, _one_ test
message using a different NNTP server to c.l.c, which I'm sure did not
create _that_ much noise (c.f. "Skybuck debate" which _I_ ignored
completely).

Now, I'm sure we all have better things to do than flog this particular
dead horse anymore.
;-)

Cheers

Vladimir

PS
Reprimanding may certainly have been in order, and I can accept that.
Setting followup-to /dev/null I'd say was certainly overreacting,
wasn't it? Nevertheless, I'll take it in good humour, and move on...

[Chris Torek]

(I realize this is off-topic, even with the subject line change.
My apologies for continuing the thread, but I hope the idea here
will prove useful.)

Keith Thompson wrote:

There are several newsgroups for test messages. alt.test is one of
them. comp.lang.c is not.

In article <11*********************@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups. com>
Vladimir S. Oka <vl**********@eu.panasonic.com> wrote:Thanks, although I knew that already.

My problem was erratic posting behaviour to c.l.c in particular, and
only c.l.c of all my subscribed groups, so I doubt that posting to
alt.test would have helped much in my investigation. ...

I have had a similar problem in the past.

The solution I used was to compose an on-topic article for the
problematic newsgroup, and then post it and observe.

In case the post failed, I kept a copy of the article, which I
could then use for the next test. If the post succeeded, I simply
contributed an on-topic article.

I think this method of testing is superior, myself. :-)
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[Keith Thompson]

Chris Torek <no****@torek.net> writes:

(I realize this is off-topic, even with the subject line change.
My apologies for continuing the thread, but I hope the idea here
will prove useful.)

Keith Thompson wrote:

There are several newsgroups for test messages. alt.test is one of
them. comp.lang.c is not.

In article <11*********************@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups. com>
Vladimir S. Oka <vl**********@eu.panasonic.com> wrote:

Thanks, although I knew that already.

My problem was erratic posting behaviour to c.l.c in particular, and
only c.l.c of all my subscribed groups, so I doubt that posting to
alt.test would have helped much in my investigation. ...

I have had a similar problem in the past.

The solution I used was to compose an on-topic article for the
problematic newsgroup, and then post it and observe.

In case the post failed, I kept a copy of the article, which I
could then use for the next test. If the post succeeded, I simply
contributed an on-topic article.

I think this method of testing is superior, myself. :-)

Agreed. If you have something topical to say, it's a good way to
test; if you don't, you don't really need to test whether you can post
to comp.lang.c anyway.

Having said that, I meant no offense to Vladimir. We do see people
posting test messages here just because they don't know any better.
I see now that Vladimir does know better.

Another suggestion: if you do need to post a test message to
comp.lang.c, and posting to alt.test won't work, you might briefly
mention it in the message, something like "I'd have post to alt.test,
but I'm having a problem that's specific to comp.lang.c."

These are intended as suggestions, not as criticism for not doing it
this way in the first place.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks***@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
San Diego Supercomputer Center <*> <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst>
We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this.

[Vladimir S. Oka]

Keith Thompson wrote:

Chris Torek <no****@torek.net> writes:

Vladimir S. Oka <vl**********@eu.panasonic.com> wrote:

My problem was erratic posting behaviour to c.l.c in
particular, and only c.l.c of all my subscribed groups, so I
doubt that posting to alt.test would have helped much in my
investigation. ...
I have had a similar problem in the past.

The solution I used was to compose an on-topic article for
the problematic newsgroup, and then post it and observe.

In case the post failed, I kept a copy of the article, which
I could then use for the next test. If the post succeeded, I
simply contributed an on-topic article.

I think this method of testing is superior, myself. :-)

Agreed. If you have something topical to say, it's a good way
to test; if you don't, you don't really need to test whether
you can post to comp.lang.c anyway.

One of the things that become clear a very short while after
you've done the /wrong/ thing (apparently, French have a name
for this, loosely translated as: the witty retort that occurs
to you half way down the stairs after you've left the party
already). ;-)
Having said that, I meant no offense to Vladimir. We do see
people posting test messages here just because they don't know
any better. I see now that Vladimir does know better.

No offence was taken, although I did think I left a slightly
better impression since I started actively taking part
here. :-)

<snipped some more good suggestions and kind words>

Famous last words: I rarely make the same mistake twice. ;o)

Cheers

Vladimir

[Jordan Abel]

On 2006-01-23, Vladimir S. Oka <no****@btopenworld.com> wrote:

Keith Thompson wrote:

Chris Torek <no****@torek.net> writes:

Vladimir S. Oka <vl**********@eu.panasonic.com> wrote:

My problem was erratic posting behaviour to c.l.c in
particular, and only c.l.c of all my subscribed groups, so I
doubt that posting to alt.test would have helped much in my
investigation. ...

I have had a similar problem in the past.

The solution I used was to compose an on-topic article for
the problematic newsgroup, and then post it and observe.

In case the post failed, I kept a copy of the article, which
I could then use for the next test. If the post succeeded, I
simply contributed an on-topic article.

I think this method of testing is superior, myself. :-)

Agreed. If you have something topical to say, it's a good way
to test; if you don't, you don't really need to test whether
you can post to comp.lang.c anyway.

One of the things that become clear a very short while after
you've done the /wrong/ thing (apparently, French have a name
for this, loosely translated as: the witty retort that occurs
to you half way down the stairs after you've left the party
already). ;-)

L'esprit de l'escalier. Also german "Treppenwitz". The english wikipedia
article is under the french name, for whatever that's worth

[Vladimir S. Oka]

Jordan Abel wrote:

On 2006-01-23, Vladimir S. Oka <no****@btopenworld.com> wrote:

One of the things that become clear a very short while after
you've done the /wrong/ thing (apparently, French have a name
for this, loosely translated as: the witty retort that occurs
to you half way down the stairs after you've left the party
already). ;-)

L'esprit de l'escalier. Also german "Treppenwitz". The english
wikipedia article is under the french name, for whatever
that's worth

That was the one! Thanks Jordan.

Cheers

Vladimir