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Farewell CUJ

You will be missed.

Jan 3 '06 #1
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On 3 Jan 2006 07:25:03 -0800, "Eric B" <eb********@yahoo.com> wrote:
You will be missed.


Details?

Jan 3 '06 #2
CMP Media has discontinued CUJ, and will roll some of its coverage into
DDJ, according to a cover letter sent with the Feb 2006 issue.

Jan 3 '06 #3
Eric B wrote:
CMP Media has discontinued CUJ, and will roll some of its coverage into
DDJ, according to a cover letter sent with the Feb 2006 issue.


C++ Report, now CUJ...what C++ magazines remain?
Cheers
--
Mateusz Łoskot
http://mateusz.loskot.net
Jan 3 '06 #4
Eric B wrote:
CMP Media has discontinued CUJ, and will roll some of its coverage into
DDJ, according to a cover letter sent with the Feb 2006 issue.


Oh goody. And of course DDJ is nice and lean with few ads or java
articles to get in the way.

Blah.
Jan 3 '06 #5
On 3 Jan 2006 12:10:25 -0800, "Eric B" <eb********@yahoo.com> wrote:
CMP Media has discontinued CUJ, and will roll some of its coverage into
DDJ, according to a cover letter sent with the Feb 2006 issue.


That really is bad news! Albeit not entirely unexpected. IMO, there
are two main reasons:

1.AFAIK, CUJ had no full-time editor since Marc Briand left years ago.
A monthly magazine dealing with a complex subject like C++ cannot do
without someone primarily responsible for the contents, for the choice
of columnists and, last not least, for the economic foundation
(attracting advertisers, ...).

2. In the last years CUJ focussed too much on experimental (a.k.a.
"Modern", a.k.a. "Boost", ...) C++ programming which, due to its
complexity and meager 'return on investment', is not attractive for
most real-world programmers. Especially some of the columnists just
presented what's interesting to them without considering if it's
usable or even understandable for a larger audience of C++
programmers.

I hope that some online magazine will fill the void, something like
CodeProject (which unfortunately is targeted primarily at Windows
technology).

Farewell CUJ, I'll keep my old copies!
Roland Pibinger
Jan 3 '06 #6
Eric B wrote:
CMP Media has discontinued CUJ, and will roll some of its coverage into
DDJ, according to a cover letter sent with the Feb 2006 issue.


Will I get a refund on my subscription?
Jan 3 '06 #7

Roland Pibinger wrote:
2. In the last years CUJ focussed too much on experimental (a.k.a.
"Modern", a.k.a. "Boost", ...) C++ programming which, due to its
complexity and meager 'return on investment', is not attractive for
most real-world programmers. Especially some of the columnists just
presented what's interesting to them without considering if it's
usable or even understandable for a larger audience of C++
programmers.


That's funny... Its coverage of "modern" concepts is what I loved about
it. You can go anywhere to find the basics covered.

Eric

Jan 3 '06 #8
On 2006-01-03, Roland Pibinger <rp*****@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 3 Jan 2006 07:25:03 -0800, "Eric B" <eb********@yahoo.com> wrote:
You will be missed.


Details?


The current issue had a page glued on the front of the magazine
indicating that the issue would be the last. Remaining subscriptions
are rolled over to Dr. Dobb's Journal, or refunded if you send them a
letter asking for it (I did).
/Allan
Jan 3 '06 #9

Eric B wrote:
You will be missed.

I think it is continuation of C++ is DEAD forum... aka troll

Jan 4 '06 #10

"Eric B" <eb********@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11**********************@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...

Roland Pibinger wrote:
2. In the last years CUJ focussed too much on experimental (a.k.a.
"Modern", a.k.a. "Boost", ...) C++ programming which, due to its
complexity and meager 'return on investment', is not attractive for
most real-world programmers. Especially some of the columnists just
presented what's interesting to them without considering if it's
usable or even understandable for a larger audience of C++
programmers.


That's funny... Its coverage of "modern" concepts is what I loved about
it. You can go anywhere to find the basics covered.


I agree. I had just sent in for a 3 year subscription for the first time, so
this is all probably my fault. :)

Jeff
Jan 4 '06 #11
puzzlecracker wrote:

I think it is continuation of C++ is DEAD forum... aka troll


You may be right. www.cuj.com says absolutely nothing about this.
Jan 4 '06 #12

"red floyd" <no*****@here.dude> wrote in message
news:cb*******************@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
puzzlecracker wrote:

I think it is continuation of C++ is DEAD forum... aka troll


You may be right. www.cuj.com says absolutely nothing about this.


But the letter posted to the cover of my Feb issue does.
Jan 4 '06 #13
puzzlecracker wrote:
Eric B wrote:
You will be missed.

I think it is continuation of C++ is DEAD forum... aka troll


Sorry, puzz, but it's no troll. I got the same letter booger-glued to
my Feb issue as well. It's true that the web sites don't mention this.

Chuck

Jan 4 '06 #14

Mr360 wrote:
puzzlecracker wrote:
Eric B wrote:
You will be missed.

I think it is continuation of C++ is DEAD forum... aka troll


Sorry, puzz, but it's no troll. I got the same letter booger-glued to
my Feb issue as well. It's true that the web sites don't mention this.

Chuck

That sucks. I only received two issues out of 12 for this year and am
afraid that next one will be the last.............................

Jan 4 '06 #15
Here's the address to write for a refund:

C/C++ Users Journal
P.O. Box 52582
Boulder, CO 80322-2582

Are you saying you didn't see this on your Feb issue?

Jan 4 '06 #16
Mr360 wrote:
Here's the address to write for a refund:

C/C++ Users Journal
P.O. Box 52582
Boulder, CO 80322-2582

Are you saying you didn't see this on your Feb issue?


I didn't *GET* my Feb issue yet.
Jan 4 '06 #17

"Mr360" <mi********@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11*********************@g43g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
puzzlecracker wrote:
Eric B wrote:
> You will be missed.

I think it is continuation of C++ is DEAD forum... aka troll


Sorry, puzz, but it's no troll. I got the same letter booger-glued to
my Feb issue as well. It's true that the web sites don't mention this.

Chuck


It's also odd that it's not mentioned in the magazine itself either.

So, how long before the void is filled by some entrepreneurial soul from
comp.lang.c++?
Jan 4 '06 #18

Dave wrote:
"Mr360" <mi********@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11*********************@g43g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
puzzlecracker wrote:
Eric B wrote:
> You will be missed.
I think it is continuation of C++ is DEAD forum... aka troll


Sorry, puzz, but it's no troll. I got the same letter booger-glued to
my Feb issue as well. It's true that the web sites don't mention this.

Chuck


It's also odd that it's not mentioned in the magazine itself either.

So, how long before the void is filled by some entrepreneurial soul from
comp.lang.c++?


to find answers to this question you need to look at C++ is DEAD topic
(recent one), even bjorne commented something ....

Jan 4 '06 #19
puzzlecracker wrote:
Dave wrote:
[..]
So, how long before the void is filled by some entrepreneurial soul from
comp.lang.c++?

to find answers to this question you need to look at C++ is DEAD topic
(recent one), even bjorne commented something ....


It's "Dr. Stroustrup" to you.
Jan 4 '06 #20
On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 17:50:26 -0500, Victor Bazarov
<v.********@comAcast.net> wrote:
puzzlecracker wrote:
Dave wrote:
[..]
So, how long before the void is filled by some entrepreneurial soul from
comp.lang.c++?


to find answers to this question you need to look at C++ is DEAD topic
(recent one), even bjorne commented something ....


It's "Dr. Stroustrup" to you.


'Professor Dr. Stroustrup' to you - http://parasol.tamu.edu/~bs/
Jan 4 '06 #21
Victor Bazarov wrote:
puzzlecracker wrote:
Dave wrote:
[..]
So, how long before the void is filled by some entrepreneurial soul from
comp.lang.c++?

to find answers to this question you need to look at C++ is DEAD topic
(recent one), even bjorne commented something ....


It's "Dr. Stroustrup" to you.


Is that because he can't spell "Bjarne"?

http://public.research.att.com/~bs/b...html#pronounce

Ben Pope
--
I'm not just a number. To many, I'm known as a string...
Jan 4 '06 #22
Eric B wrote:
You will be missed.


BTW, as I see the editorial calendar is precisely defined:

http://www.cuj.com/corner/edcalendar.htm

I don't have the latest issue of CUJ, so I don't know what is
the real reason of closing CUJ. But I think it must be something unexpected.

Cheers
--
Mateusz Łoskot
http://mateusz.loskot.net
Jan 4 '06 #23
Eric B wrote:
You will be missed.


In the circumstances, may be it's worth to get a hardcopy of CUJ
archives, what do you think?

Is this release recommended or may be another one?
http://www.ddj.com/store/ddj/1118.html

Cheers
--
Mateusz Łoskot
http://mateusz.loskot.net
Jan 4 '06 #24
Roland Pibinger wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 17:50:26 -0500, Victor Bazarov
<v.********@comAcast.net> wrote:
puzzlecracker wrote:
Dave wrote:
[..]
So, how long before the void is filled by some entrepreneurial
soul from comp.lang.c++?

to find answers to this question you need to look at C++ is DEAD
topic (recent one), even bjorne commented something ....


It's "Dr. Stroustrup" to you.


'Professor Dr. Stroustrup' to you - http://parasol.tamu.edu/~bs/


Nope. Only to his students.
Jan 5 '06 #25
Ben Pope wrote:
Victor Bazarov wrote:
puzzlecracker wrote:
Dave wrote:
[..]
So, how long before the void is filled by some entrepreneurial
soul from comp.lang.c++?
to find answers to this question you need to look at C++ is DEAD
topic (recent one), even bjorne commented something ....


It's "Dr. Stroustrup" to you.


Is that because he can't spell "Bjarne"?


If writing Dr. Stroustrup's name from a small letter constitutes
misspelling, then yes, becasue he can't spell. To me it also reeks
of disrespect.
Jan 5 '06 #26
Victor Bazarov wrote:
Ben Pope wrote:
Victor Bazarov wrote:
puzzlecracker wrote:
Dave wrote:
[..]
> So, how long before the void is filled by some entrepreneurial
> soul from comp.lang.c++?

to find answers to this question you need to look at C++ is DEAD
topic (recent one), even bjorne commented something ....

It's "Dr. Stroustrup" to you.

Is that because he can't spell "Bjarne"?


If writing Dr. Stroustrup's name from a small letter constitutes
misspelling, then yes, becasue he can't spell. To me it also reeks
of disrespect.


I was actually referring to the 'o', which should have been an 'a'.

Dr. Stroustrup refers to himself as "bjarne" in the from field of his
posting, and "Bjarne Stroustrup" in his sig.

I don't think it unreasonable or disrespectful to not use Dr., although
misspelling his name is.

Ben Pope
--
I'm not just a number. To many, I'm known as a string...
Jan 5 '06 #27

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