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Opensource software for computing checksum?

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Kindly suggest a good opensource package (in C or C++) that can compute
the checksum of a file. SHA2 would be preferable, but SHA1/SHA0/MD5
would be acceptable as well. We have cards with different processors,
running different operating systems, and we would like a package that
provides the checksum value consistently across different processor
architectures and operating systems.

Zahid

Dec 20 '05 #1
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"Zahid Faizal" <za*********@canada.com> writes:
Kindly suggest a good opensource package (in C or C++) that can compute
the checksum of a file. SHA2 would be preferable, but SHA1/SHA0/MD5
would be acceptable as well. We have cards with different processors,
running different operating systems, and we would like a package that
provides the checksum value consistently across different processor
architectures and operating systems.


<OT>
The OpenSSL libraries, http://www.openssl.org/,
or a trivial Google search.
</OT>

--
Chris.
Dec 20 '05 #2

P: n/a
Zahid Faizal wrote:
Kindly suggest a good opensource package (in C or C++) that can compute
the checksum of a file. SHA2 would be preferable, but SHA1/SHA0/MD5
would be acceptable as well. We have cards with different processors,
running different operating systems, and we would like a package that
provides the checksum value consistently across different processor
architectures and operating systems.

Zahid


I wanted md5 myself yesterday and found it on the web. Can't recall
where, but here is the code below. There are 3 files - I leave it as an
excercise for you to find out where main.c ends and md5.c starts and
where md5.c ends and md5.h starts!!

sparrow /export/home/drkirkby % cat main.c md5.c md5.h
/*

Calculate or Check MD5 Signature of File or Command Line Argument

by John Walker
http://www.fourmilab.ch/

This program is in the public domain.

*/

#define VERSION "2.1 (2003-09-23)"

#include <stdio.h>
#include <ctype.h>
#include <string.h>
#ifdef _WIN32
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <io.h>
#endif

#include "md5.h"

#define FALSE 0
#define TRUE 1

#define EOS '\0'

/* Main program */

int main(argc, argv)
int argc; char *argv[];
{
int i, j, opt, cdata = FALSE, docheck = FALSE, showfile = TRUE, f = 0;
unsigned int bp;
char *cp, *clabel, *ifname, *hexfmt = "%02X";
FILE *in = stdin, *out = stdout;
unsigned char buffer[16384], signature[16], csig[16];
struct MD5Context md5c;

/* Build parameter quality control. Verify machine
properties were properly set in md5.h and refuse
to run if they're not correct. */

#ifdef CHECK_HARDWARE_PROPERTIES
/* Verify unit32 is, in fact, a 32 bit data type. */
if (sizeof(uint32) != 4) {
fprintf(stderr, "** Configuration error. Setting for uint32 in
file md5.h\n");
fprintf(stderr, " is incorrect. This must be a 32 bit data
type, but it\n");
fprintf(stderr, " is configured as a %d bit data type.\n",
sizeof(uint32) * 8);
return 2;
}

/* If HIGHFIRST is not defined, verify that this machine is,
in fact, a little-endian architecture. */

#ifndef HIGHFIRST
{ uint32 t = 0x12345678;

if (*((char *) &t) != 0x78) {
fprintf(stderr, "** Configuration error. Setting for
HIGHFIRST in file md5.h\n");
fprintf(stderr, " is incorrect. This symbol has not been
defined, yet this\n");
fprintf(stderr, " machine is a big-endian (most
significant byte first in\n");
fprintf(stderr, " memory) architecture. Please modify
md5.h so HIGHFIRST is\n");
fprintf(stderr, " defined when building for this
machine.\n");
return 2;
}
}
#endif
#endif

/* Process command line options. */

for (i = 1; i < argc; i++) {
cp = argv[i];
if (*cp == '-') {
if (strlen(cp) == 1) {
i++;
break; /* - -- Mark end of options;
balance are files */
}
opt = *(++cp);
if (islower(opt)) {
opt = toupper(opt);
}

switch (opt) {

case 'C': /* -Csignature -- Check
signature, set return code */
docheck = TRUE;
if (strlen(cp + 1) != 32) {
docheck = FALSE;
}
memset(csig, 0, 16);
clabel = cp + 1;
for (j = 0; j < 16; j++) {
if (isxdigit((int) clabel[0]) && isxdigit((int)
clabel[1]) &&
sscanf((cp + 1 + (j * 2)), hexfmt, &bp) == 1) {
csig[j] = (unsigned char) bp;
} else {
docheck = FALSE;
break;
}
clabel += 2;
}
if (!docheck) {
fprintf(stderr, "Error in signature
specification. Must be 32 hex digits.\n");
return 2;
}
break;

case 'D': /* -Dtext -- Compute signature
of given text */
MD5Init(&md5c);
MD5Update(&md5c, (unsigned char *) (cp + 1),
strlen(cp + 1));
cdata = TRUE;
f++; /* Mark no infile argument needed */
break;

case 'L': /* -L -- Use lower case letters
as hex digits */
hexfmt = "%02x";
break;

case 'N': /* -N -- Don't show file name
after sum */
showfile = FALSE;
break;

case 'O': /* -Ofname -- Write output to
fname (- = stdout) */
cp++;
if (strcmp(cp, "-") != 0) {
if (out != stdout) {
fprintf(stderr, "Redundant output file
specification.\n");
return 2;
}
if ((out = fopen(cp, "w")) == NULL) {
fprintf(stderr, "Cannot open output file
%s\n", cp); return 2;
}
}
break;

case '?': /* -U, -? -H -- Print how to
call information. */
case 'H':
case 'U':
printf("\nMD5 -- Calculate MD5 signature of file. Call");
printf("\n with md5 [ options ] [file ...]");
printf("\n");
printf("\n Options:");
printf("\n -csig Check against sig, set exit status
0 = OK"); printf("\n -dtext Compute signature of text
argument");
printf("\n -l Use lower case letters for
hexadecimal digits");
printf("\n -n Do not show file name after sum");
printf("\n -ofname Write output to fname (- = stdout)");
printf("\n -u Print this message");
printf("\n -v Print version information");
printf("\n");
printf("\nby John Walker -- http://www.fourmilab.ch/");
printf("\nVersion %s\n", VERSION);
printf("\nThis program is in the public domain.\n");
printf("\n");
#ifdef CHECK_HARDWARE_PROPERTIES
#ifdef HIGHFIRST
{ uint32 t = 0x12345678;

if (*((char *) &t) == 0x78) {
fprintf(stderr, "** Note. md5 is not optimally configured
for use on this\n");
fprintf(stderr, " machine. This is a little-endian
(least significant byte\n");
fprintf(stderr, " first in memory) architecture, yet md5
has been built with the\n");
fprintf(stderr, " symbol HIGHFIRST defined in md5.h,
which includes code which\n");
fprintf(stderr, " supports both big- and little-endian
machines. Modifying\n");
fprintf(stderr, " md5.h to undefine HIGHFIRST for this
platform will make md5\n");
fprintf(stderr, " run faster on it.\n");
}
}
#endif
#endif
return 0;

case 'V': /* -V -- Print version number */
printf("%s\n", VERSION);
return 0;
}
} else {
break;
}
}

if (cdata && (i < argc)) {
fprintf(stderr, "Cannot specify both -d option and input file.\n");
return 2;
}

if ((i >= argc) && (f == 0)) {
f++;
}

for (; (f > 0) || (i < argc); i++) {
if ((!cdata) && (f > 0)) {
ifname = "-";
} else {
ifname = argv[i];
}
f = 0;

if (!cdata) {

/* If the data weren't supplied on the command line with
the "-d" option, read it now from the input file. */

if (strcmp(ifname, "-") != 0) {
if ((in = fopen(ifname, "rb")) == NULL) {
fprintf(stderr, "Cannot open input file %s\n", ifname);
return 2;
}
} else {
in = stdin;
}
#ifdef _WIN32

/** Warning! On systems which distinguish text mode and
binary I/O (MS-DOS, Macintosh, etc.) the modes in the open
statement for "in" should have forced the input file into
binary mode. But what if we're reading from standard
input? Well, then we need to do a system-specific tweak
to make sure it's in binary mode. While we're at it,
let's set the mode to binary regardless of however fopen
set it.

The following code, conditional on _WIN32, sets binary
mode using the method prescribed by Microsoft Visual C 7.0
("Monkey C"); this may require modification if you're
using a different compiler or release of Monkey C. If
you're porting this code to a different system which
distinguishes text and binary files, you'll need to add
the equivalent call for that system. */

_setmode(_fileno(in), _O_BINARY);
#endif

MD5Init(&md5c);
while ((j = (int) fread(buffer, 1, sizeof buffer, in)) > 0) {
MD5Update(&md5c, buffer, (unsigned) j);
}
}
MD5Final(signature, &md5c);

if (docheck) {
docheck = 0;
for (j = 0; j < sizeof signature; j++) {
if (signature[j] != csig[j]) {
docheck = 1;
break;
}
}
if (i < (argc - 1)) {
fprintf(stderr, "Only one file may be tested with the
-c option.\n");
return 2;
}
} else {
for (j = 0; j < sizeof signature; j++) {
fprintf(out, hexfmt, signature[j]);
}
if ((!cdata) && showfile) {
fprintf(out, " %s", (in == stdin) ? "-" : ifname);
}
fprintf(out, "\n");
}
}

return docheck;
}
/*
* This code implements the MD5 message-digest algorithm.
* The algorithm is due to Ron Rivest. This code was
* written by Colin Plumb in 1993, no copyright is claimed.
* This code is in the public domain; do with it what you wish.
*
* Equivalent code is available from RSA Data Security, Inc.
* This code has been tested against that, and is equivalent,
* except that you don't need to include two pages of legalese
* with every copy.
*
* To compute the message digest of a chunk of bytes, declare an
* MD5Context structure, pass it to MD5Init, call MD5Update as
* needed on buffers full of bytes, and then call MD5Final, which
* will fill a supplied 16-byte array with the digest.
*/

/* Brutally hacked by John Walker back from ANSI C to K&R (no
prototypes) to maintain the tradition that Netfone will compile
with Sun's original "cc". */

#include <memory.h> /* for memcpy() */
#include "md5.h"

#ifndef HIGHFIRST
#define byteReverse(buf, len) /* Nothing */
#else
/*
* Note: this code is harmless on little-endian machines.
*/
void byteReverse(buf, longs)
unsigned char *buf; unsigned longs;
{
uint32 t;
do {
t = (uint32) ((unsigned) buf[3] << 8 | buf[2]) << 16 |
((unsigned) buf[1] << 8 | buf[0]);
*(uint32 *) buf = t;
buf += 4;
} while (--longs);
}
#endif

/*
* Start MD5 accumulation. Set bit count to 0 and buffer to mysterious
* initialization constants.
*/
void MD5Init(ctx)
struct MD5Context *ctx;
{
ctx->buf[0] = 0x67452301;
ctx->buf[1] = 0xefcdab89;
ctx->buf[2] = 0x98badcfe;
ctx->buf[3] = 0x10325476;

ctx->bits[0] = 0;
ctx->bits[1] = 0;
}

/*
* Update context to reflect the concatenation of another buffer full
* of bytes.
*/
void MD5Update(ctx, buf, len)
struct MD5Context *ctx; unsigned char *buf; unsigned len;
{
uint32 t;

/* Update bitcount */

t = ctx->bits[0];
if ((ctx->bits[0] = t + ((uint32) len << 3)) < t)
ctx->bits[1]++; /* Carry from low to high */
ctx->bits[1] += len >> 29;

t = (t >> 3) & 0x3f; /* Bytes already in shsInfo->data */

/* Handle any leading odd-sized chunks */

if (t) {
unsigned char *p = (unsigned char *) ctx->in + t;

t = 64 - t;
if (len < t) {
memcpy(p, buf, len);
return;
}
memcpy(p, buf, t);
byteReverse(ctx->in, 16);
MD5Transform(ctx->buf, (uint32 *) ctx->in);
buf += t;
len -= t;
}
/* Process data in 64-byte chunks */

while (len >= 64) {
memcpy(ctx->in, buf, 64);
byteReverse(ctx->in, 16);
MD5Transform(ctx->buf, (uint32 *) ctx->in);
buf += 64;
len -= 64;
}

/* Handle any remaining bytes of data. */

memcpy(ctx->in, buf, len);
}

/*
* Final wrapup - pad to 64-byte boundary with the bit pattern
* 1 0* (64-bit count of bits processed, MSB-first)
*/
void MD5Final(digest, ctx)
unsigned char digest[16]; struct MD5Context *ctx;
{
unsigned count;
unsigned char *p;

/* Compute number of bytes mod 64 */
count = (ctx->bits[0] >> 3) & 0x3F;

/* Set the first char of padding to 0x80. This is safe since there is
always at least one byte free */
p = ctx->in + count;
*p++ = 0x80;

/* Bytes of padding needed to make 64 bytes */
count = 64 - 1 - count;

/* Pad out to 56 mod 64 */
if (count < 8) {
/* Two lots of padding: Pad the first block to 64 bytes */
memset(p, 0, count);
byteReverse(ctx->in, 16);
MD5Transform(ctx->buf, (uint32 *) ctx->in);

/* Now fill the next block with 56 bytes */
memset(ctx->in, 0, 56);
} else {
/* Pad block to 56 bytes */
memset(p, 0, count - 8);
}
byteReverse(ctx->in, 14);

/* Append length in bits and transform */
((uint32 *) ctx->in)[14] = ctx->bits[0];
((uint32 *) ctx->in)[15] = ctx->bits[1];

MD5Transform(ctx->buf, (uint32 *) ctx->in);
byteReverse((unsigned char *) ctx->buf, 4);
memcpy(digest, ctx->buf, 16);
memset(ctx, 0, sizeof(ctx)); /* In case it's sensitive */
}
/* The four core functions - F1 is optimized somewhat */

/* #define F1(x, y, z) (x & y | ~x & z) */
#define F1(x, y, z) (z ^ (x & (y ^ z)))
#define F2(x, y, z) F1(z, x, y)
#define F3(x, y, z) (x ^ y ^ z)
#define F4(x, y, z) (y ^ (x | ~z))

/* This is the central step in the MD5 algorithm. */
#define MD5STEP(f, w, x, y, z, data, s) \
( w += f(x, y, z) + data, w = w<<s | w>>(32-s), w += x )

/*
* The core of the MD5 algorithm, this alters an existing MD5 hash to
* reflect the addition of 16 longwords of new data. MD5Update blocks
* the data and converts bytes into longwords for this routine.
*/
void MD5Transform(buf, in)
uint32 buf[4]; uint32 in[16];
{
register uint32 a, b, c, d;

a = buf[0];
b = buf[1];
c = buf[2];
d = buf[3];

MD5STEP(F1, a, b, c, d, in[0] + 0xd76aa478, 7);
MD5STEP(F1, d, a, b, c, in[1] + 0xe8c7b756, 12);
MD5STEP(F1, c, d, a, b, in[2] + 0x242070db, 17);
MD5STEP(F1, b, c, d, a, in[3] + 0xc1bdceee, 22);
MD5STEP(F1, a, b, c, d, in[4] + 0xf57c0faf, 7);
MD5STEP(F1, d, a, b, c, in[5] + 0x4787c62a, 12);
MD5STEP(F1, c, d, a, b, in[6] + 0xa8304613, 17);
MD5STEP(F1, b, c, d, a, in[7] + 0xfd469501, 22);
MD5STEP(F1, a, b, c, d, in[8] + 0x698098d8, 7);
MD5STEP(F1, d, a, b, c, in[9] + 0x8b44f7af, 12);
MD5STEP(F1, c, d, a, b, in[10] + 0xffff5bb1, 17);
MD5STEP(F1, b, c, d, a, in[11] + 0x895cd7be, 22);
MD5STEP(F1, a, b, c, d, in[12] + 0x6b901122, 7);
MD5STEP(F1, d, a, b, c, in[13] + 0xfd987193, 12);
MD5STEP(F1, c, d, a, b, in[14] + 0xa679438e, 17);
MD5STEP(F1, b, c, d, a, in[15] + 0x49b40821, 22);

MD5STEP(F2, a, b, c, d, in[1] + 0xf61e2562, 5);
MD5STEP(F2, d, a, b, c, in[6] + 0xc040b340, 9);
MD5STEP(F2, c, d, a, b, in[11] + 0x265e5a51, 14);
MD5STEP(F2, b, c, d, a, in[0] + 0xe9b6c7aa, 20);
MD5STEP(F2, a, b, c, d, in[5] + 0xd62f105d, 5);
MD5STEP(F2, d, a, b, c, in[10] + 0x02441453, 9);
MD5STEP(F2, c, d, a, b, in[15] + 0xd8a1e681, 14);
MD5STEP(F2, b, c, d, a, in[4] + 0xe7d3fbc8, 20);
MD5STEP(F2, a, b, c, d, in[9] + 0x21e1cde6, 5);
MD5STEP(F2, d, a, b, c, in[14] + 0xc33707d6, 9);
MD5STEP(F2, c, d, a, b, in[3] + 0xf4d50d87, 14);
MD5STEP(F2, b, c, d, a, in[8] + 0x455a14ed, 20);
MD5STEP(F2, a, b, c, d, in[13] + 0xa9e3e905, 5);
MD5STEP(F2, d, a, b, c, in[2] + 0xfcefa3f8, 9);
MD5STEP(F2, c, d, a, b, in[7] + 0x676f02d9, 14);
MD5STEP(F2, b, c, d, a, in[12] + 0x8d2a4c8a, 20);

MD5STEP(F3, a, b, c, d, in[5] + 0xfffa3942, 4);
MD5STEP(F3, d, a, b, c, in[8] + 0x8771f681, 11);
MD5STEP(F3, c, d, a, b, in[11] + 0x6d9d6122, 16);
MD5STEP(F3, b, c, d, a, in[14] + 0xfde5380c, 23);
MD5STEP(F3, a, b, c, d, in[1] + 0xa4beea44, 4);
MD5STEP(F3, d, a, b, c, in[4] + 0x4bdecfa9, 11);
MD5STEP(F3, c, d, a, b, in[7] + 0xf6bb4b60, 16);
MD5STEP(F3, b, c, d, a, in[10] + 0xbebfbc70, 23);
MD5STEP(F3, a, b, c, d, in[13] + 0x289b7ec6, 4);
MD5STEP(F3, d, a, b, c, in[0] + 0xeaa127fa, 11);
MD5STEP(F3, c, d, a, b, in[3] + 0xd4ef3085, 16);
MD5STEP(F3, b, c, d, a, in[6] + 0x04881d05, 23);
MD5STEP(F3, a, b, c, d, in[9] + 0xd9d4d039, 4);
MD5STEP(F3, d, a, b, c, in[12] + 0xe6db99e5, 11);
MD5STEP(F3, c, d, a, b, in[15] + 0x1fa27cf8, 16);
MD5STEP(F3, b, c, d, a, in[2] + 0xc4ac5665, 23);

MD5STEP(F4, a, b, c, d, in[0] + 0xf4292244, 6);
MD5STEP(F4, d, a, b, c, in[7] + 0x432aff97, 10);
MD5STEP(F4, c, d, a, b, in[14] + 0xab9423a7, 15);
MD5STEP(F4, b, c, d, a, in[5] + 0xfc93a039, 21);
MD5STEP(F4, a, b, c, d, in[12] + 0x655b59c3, 6);
MD5STEP(F4, d, a, b, c, in[3] + 0x8f0ccc92, 10);
MD5STEP(F4, c, d, a, b, in[10] + 0xffeff47d, 15);
MD5STEP(F4, b, c, d, a, in[1] + 0x85845dd1, 21);
MD5STEP(F4, a, b, c, d, in[8] + 0x6fa87e4f, 6);
MD5STEP(F4, d, a, b, c, in[15] + 0xfe2ce6e0, 10);
MD5STEP(F4, c, d, a, b, in[6] + 0xa3014314, 15);
MD5STEP(F4, b, c, d, a, in[13] + 0x4e0811a1, 21);
MD5STEP(F4, a, b, c, d, in[4] + 0xf7537e82, 6);
MD5STEP(F4, d, a, b, c, in[11] + 0xbd3af235, 10);
MD5STEP(F4, c, d, a, b, in[2] + 0x2ad7d2bb, 15);
MD5STEP(F4, b, c, d, a, in[9] + 0xeb86d391, 21);

buf[0] += a;
buf[1] += b;
buf[2] += c;
buf[3] += d;
}
#ifndef MD5_H
#define MD5_H

/* The following tests optimise behaviour on little-endian
machines, where there is no need to reverse the byte order
of 32 bit words in the MD5 computation. By default,
HIGHFIRST is defined, which indicates we're running on a
big-endian (most significant byte first) machine, on which
the byteReverse function in md5.c must be invoked. However,
byteReverse is coded in such a way that it is an identity
function when run on a little-endian machine, so calling it
on such a platform causes no harm apart from wasting time.
If the platform is known to be little-endian, we speed
things up by undefining HIGHFIRST, which defines
byteReverse as a null macro. Doing things in this manner
insures we work on new platforms regardless of their byte
order. */

#define HIGHFIRST

#ifdef __i386__
#undef HIGHFIRST
#endif

/* On machines where "long" is 64 bits, we need to declare
uint32 as something guaranteed to be 32 bits. */

#ifdef __alpha
typedef unsigned int uint32;
#else
typedef unsigned long uint32;
#endif

struct MD5Context {
uint32 buf[4];
uint32 bits[2];
unsigned char in[64];
};

extern void MD5Init();
extern void MD5Update();
extern void MD5Final();
extern void MD5Transform();

/*
* This is needed to make RSAREF happy on some MS-DOS compilers.
*/
typedef struct MD5Context MD5_CTX;

/* Define CHECK_HARDWARE_PROPERTIES to have main,c verify
byte order and uint32 settings. */
#define CHECK_HARDWARE_PROPERTIES

#endif /* !MD5_H */
--
Dave K

http://www.southminster-branch-line.org.uk/

Please note my email address changes periodically to avoid spam.
It is always of the form: month-year@domain. Hitting reply will work
for a couple of months only. Later set it manually. The month is
always written in 3 letters (e.g. Jan, not January etc)
Dec 20 '05 #3

P: n/a
Dave <IN****************************************@southm inster-branch-line.org.uk> writes:
Zahid Faizal wrote:
Kindly suggest a good opensource package (in C or C++) that can compute
the checksum of a file. SHA2 would be preferable, but SHA1/SHA0/MD5
would be acceptable as well. We have cards with different processors,
running different operating systems, and we would like a package that
provides the checksum value consistently across different processor
architectures and operating systems.
Zahid


I wanted md5 myself yesterday and found it on the web. Can't recall
where, but here is the code below. There are 3 files - I leave it as
an excercise for you to find out where main.c ends and md5.c starts
and where md5.c ends and md5.h starts!!

[607 lines deleted]

If you found it on the web, posting a pointer would have been more
appropriate than posting the actual code, especially since this isn't
really a sources-wanted newsgroup.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks***@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
San Diego Supercomputer Center <*> <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst>
We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this.
Dec 20 '05 #4

P: n/a
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:34:37 GMT, Keith Thompson <ks***@mib.org>
wrote:
Dave <IN****************************************@southm inster-branch-line.org.uk> writes:
Zahid Faizal wrote:
Kindly suggest a good opensource package (in C or C++) that can compute
the checksum of a file. SHA2 would be preferable, but SHA1/SHA0/MD5
would be acceptable as well. We have cards with different processors,
running different operating systems, and we would like a package that
provides the checksum value consistently across different processor
architectures and operating systems.
Zahid


I wanted md5 myself yesterday and found it on the web. Can't recall
where, but here is the code below. There are 3 files - I leave it as
an excercise for you to find out where main.c ends and md5.c starts
and where md5.c ends and md5.h starts!!

[607 lines deleted]

If you found it on the web, posting a pointer would have been more
appropriate than posting the actual code, especially since this isn't
really a sources-wanted newsgroup.


Did you read the paragraph that you quoted? In particular, did you
read:

I wanted md5 myself yesterday and found it on the web. Can't
recall where, but here is the code below.

He didn't post a pointer to the source because he can't recall where
he found the source. That said, in general your point is well taken.

BTW the OP posted to three different groups.
Richard Harter, cr*@tiac.net
http://home.tiac.net/~cri, http://www.varinoma.com
I started out in life with nothing.
I still have most of it left.
Dec 20 '05 #5

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"Richard Harter" <cr*@tiac.net> wrote in message
news:43****************@news.venturecomm.net...
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:34:37 GMT, Keith Thompson <ks***@mib.org>
wrote:
Dave
<IN****************************************@sout hminster-branch-line.org.uk>
writes:
Zahid Faizal wrote:
Kindly suggest a good opensource package (in C or C++) that can compute
the checksum of a file. SHA2 would be preferable, but SHA1/SHA0/MD5
would be acceptable as well. We have cards with different processors,
running different operating systems, and we would like a package that
provides the checksum value consistently across different processor
architectures and operating systems.
Zahid
I wanted md5 myself yesterday and found it on the web. Can't recall
where, but here is the code below. There are 3 files - I leave it as
an excercise for you to find out where main.c ends and md5.c starts
and where md5.c ends and md5.h starts!!
[607 lines deleted]

If you found it on the web, posting a pointer would have been more
appropriate than posting the actual code, especially since this isn't
really a sources-wanted newsgroup.


Did you read the paragraph that you quoted? In particular, did you
read:

I wanted md5 myself yesterday and found it on the web. Can't
recall where, but here is the code below.

He didn't post a pointer to the source because he can't recall where
he found the source. That said, in general your point is well taken.


He found it once, a quick google search probably would have found it
again. It's not as if the source is hidden... hell, it's a part of the RFC.
OP should have been able to find it himself if he wasn't an idiot.
BTW the OP posted to three different groups.

.... and the request was OT for at least 2 of those groups.
That confirms my earlier suspicion... OP is an idiot.
Dec 20 '05 #6

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Zahid Faizal wrote:
Kindly suggest a good opensource package (in C or C++) that can compute
the checksum of a file. SHA2 would be preferable, but SHA1/SHA0/MD5
would be acceptable as well. We have cards with different processors,
running different operating systems, and we would like a package that
provides the checksum value consistently across different processor
architectures and operating systems.


Neither comp.lang.c not, I believe, comp.lang.c++ is an appropriate
place for asking for source. comp.sources.d may be, but I've no idea
about that. In comp.lang.c and comp.lang.c++ we discuss the C and C++
languages respectively and when people post actual standard code we
discuss that. Also, cross-posts between comp.lang.c and comp.lang.c++
are rarely a good idea because the languages are different and what is a
good solution in one is often either incorrect or at least a bad
solution in the other.

If you want to post an answer to the OP's request and don't know how to
post it only to comp.sources.d (if that is an appropriate group) and you
don't know how to remove the irrelevant groups then you can post it as a
reply to this message as I've set follow ups. If you want to discuss
what is topical in either comp.lang.c or comp.lang.c++ then please feel
free to override the follow ups to specify the one group whose
topicality you wish to discus.
--
Flash Gordon
Living in interesting times.
Although my email address says spam, it is real and I read it.
Dec 20 '05 #7

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Mark B wrote:
"Richard Harter" <cr*@tiac.net> wrote in message

He didn't post a pointer to the source because he can't recall where
he found the source. That said, in general your point is well taken.

He found it once, a quick google search probably would have found it
again. It's not as if the source is hidden... hell, it's a part of the RFC.
OP should have been able to find it himself if he wasn't an idiot.


When I wanted it yesterday I downloaded a few md5 related bits from
several different sites. Some were .zip's, one or more .tar.gz'z. One
that looked promising was only a library, with no main().

I could have spent 5~10 minutes downloading several again until I found
the site that had the code I downloaded yesterday. But it did not seem
too much of a problem to just post the code inline.

Normally I would have posted the link, but it would have taken me much
more time to find the right link than it did to post the code inline.
BTW the OP posted to three different groups.


... and the request was OT for at least 2 of those groups.
That confirms my earlier suspicion... OP is an idiot.


I don't know what the charter of the C and C++ groups are, but it does
not on the face of it seem too off-topic, given the OP wanted C or C++
code. I've no idea what comp.sources.d is I must admit.

Sorry if this offended you, but whilst I would agree the source is not
hard to find (I found it yesterday), I thought I could help someone and
did not want to waste unnecessary time in finding again, when it was
easier to just copy and paste.
--
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http://www.southminster-branch-line.org.uk/

Please note my email address changes periodically to avoid spam.
It is always of the form: month-year@domain. Hitting reply will work
for a couple of months only. Later set it manually. The month is
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Dec 20 '05 #8

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<IN****************************************@southm inster-branch-line.org.uk>
wrote:
Zahid Faizal wrote:
Kindly suggest a good opensource package (in C or C++) that can compute
the checksum of a file. .......
I wanted md5 myself yesterday and found it on the web. Can't recall
where, but here is the code below.


Could it be, by any chance, in John Walker's web site, as clearly
written in lines 5 & 6 of the file ? ;)
by John Walker
http://www.fourmilab.ch/

Roberto Waltman
[ Please reply to the group,
return address is invalid ]
Dec 20 '05 #9

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Dave
<IN****************************************@southm inster-branch-line.org.uk>
writes:
[...]
Sorry if this offended you, but whilst I would agree the source is not
hard to find (I found it yesterday), I thought I could help someone
and did not want to waste unnecessary time in finding again, when it
was easier to just copy and paste.


It was easier for you. It would have been easier and more convenient
for the rest of us if you had tracked down and posted a few links.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks***@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
San Diego Supercomputer Center <*> <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst>
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Dec 21 '05 #10

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Keith Thompson wrote:
Dave
<IN****************************************@southm inster-branch-line.org.uk>
writes:
[...]
Sorry if this offended you, but whilst I would agree the source is not
hard to find (I found it yesterday), I thought I could help someone
and did not want to waste unnecessary time in finding again, when it
was easier to just copy and paste.

It was easier for you. It would have been easier and more convenient
for the rest of us if you had tracked down and posted a few links.


It is not something I usually do - track down my previous posts in other
newsgroups. But I don't regret it under the circumstances as I see them
at the time - someone wanted a bit of code, I could not remember the
source of it and I don't think it was excessive given todays' computers.

I hope you agree it is pointless continuing discussing this, otherwise
the bandwidth wasted in arguing about it will soon exceed the 17906
bytes of C code in my original post - if it has not done so already.

If you wish to reply feel free, but as far as I am concerned the matter
is closed.

--
Dave K

http://www.southminster-branch-line.org.uk/

Please note my email address changes periodically to avoid spam.
It is always of the form: month-year@domain. Hitting reply will work
for a couple of months only. Later set it manually. The month is
always written in 3 letters (e.g. Jan, not January etc)
Dec 21 '05 #11

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Roberto Waltman wrote:
Roberto Waltman
[ Please reply to the group,
return address is invalid ]


This is off topic, but I am desparate!

After doing a search, I found that you worked on the software for the
Imagen 100. We have an Imagen 50 that is broken (the X-Y stage does not
operate) and I need any help that I can find. I contacted the company
that merged with Research Devices and they couldn't help me at all. If
you can help me, or know someone who can, please contact me at:

www.pnl.gov

My contact info is in:

http://www.emsl.pnl.gov/docs/annual_...02/3_2_IDL.pdf

Thanks,

Tom Seim

Dec 24 '05 #12

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so*********@yahoo.com wrote:
Roberto Waltman wrote:
Roberto Waltman
[ Please reply to the group,
return address is invalid ]
This is off topic, but I am desparate!


1) Don't post a new message on a new topic as a reply on an existing
thread.
2) It doesn't matter that other people can't help you , that is your
problem not ours.
3) There are groups ending in .misc where a query on where to get help
might be considered on-topic, they would certainly me more
appropriate than any of the groups you've cross posted to.

<snip>
you can help me, or know someone who can, please contact me at:

www.pnl.gov


4) Post here, get an answer here. Certainly don't expect people do
download a pdf just to get your contact details!
5) You have probably (or greatly reduced) your chances of getting help
from the people who frequent these groups if you ever have a topical
question to post.
6) If you can't get help on things not topical here that is *your*
problem, not ours.
--
Flash Gordon
Living in interesting times.
Although my email address says spam, it is real and I read it.
Dec 24 '05 #13

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In article <n5************@news.flash-gordon.me.uk>,
Flash Gordon <sp**@flash-gordon.me.uk> wrote:
so*********@yahoo.com wrote:
This is off topic, but I am desparate!

2) It doesn't matter that other people can't help you , that is your
problem not ours. 6) If you can't get help on things not topical here that is *your*
problem, not ours.


Munificent displays of Christmas spirit always restore my faith in humanity.
For the benefit of those who have not happened to have taken the time
to research what the poster was asking for, and are wondering why Flash
volunteered his assistance:

The Research Devices Imagen that the poster was asking about is a
device used to project a high resolution template onto a photosensitive
crystal, in the photolithography stage of IC production.

The poster seeing assistance works for the IDL (Instrument Development
Laboratory) at the William R. Wiley Environmental Molecular Sciences
Laboratory, which provides equipment and support for visiting
researchers to investigate environmental (i.e., health and
life-sciences) topics.

The EMSL concentrates on biogeochemistry and subsurface science,
interfacial chemistry and catalysis, structure/dynamics of biomolecules
and biomolecular complexes, biochemical pathways, and aerosol chemistry.
It is always a pleasure to see the level of concern for the
environment and life in general shared by posters such as Flash,
that lead them to offer such kind words and amazing assistance to
those who have dedicated their professional lives to making the
world a healthier place.
--
All is vanity. -- Ecclesiastes
Dec 24 '05 #14

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Walter Roberson wrote:
In article <n5************@news.flash-gordon.me.uk>,
Flash Gordon <sp**@flash-gordon.me.uk> wrote:
so*********@yahoo.com wrote:
This is off topic, but I am desparate!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
6) If you can't get help on things not topical here that is *your*
problem, not ours.


Munificent displays of Christmas spirit always restore my faith in humanity.


What makes you think I am a Christian? If I'm not the Christmas is
irrelevant to me.
For the benefit of those who have not happened to have taken the time
to research what the poster was asking for, and are wondering why Flash
volunteered his assistance:
Most people know why, it's because the OP is only going to get decent
advice somewhere it is appropriate.

<snip irrelevant stuff about where the poster works>
It is always a pleasure to see the level of concern for the
environment and life in general shared by posters such as Flash,


You have absolutely no idea whether I care for the environment or not. I
somehow doubt that you have researched me well enough to know where I
work or what I do for a living or what else I may do, so for all you
know I could be spending the bulk of my time on such issues.

You have obviously just decided to attack me for telling the OP that it
is his/her problem to find where to get help, not ours, and have
researched the OP. However, if you really cared about the OPs problem
you would have researched the OPs problem and directed the OP to where
s/he could get help instead of attacking me.
--
Flash Gordon
Living in interesting times.
Although my email address says spam, it is real and I read it.
Dec 24 '05 #15

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Flash Gordon <sp**@flash-gordon.me.uk> writes:
so*********@yahoo.com wrote:
Roberto Waltman wrote:
Roberto Waltman
[ Please reply to the group,
return address is invalid ]

This is off topic, but I am desparate!


1) Don't post a new message on a new topic as a reply on an existing
thread.
2) It doesn't matter that other people can't help you , that is your
problem not ours.
3) There are groups ending in .misc where a query on where to get help
might be considered on-topic, they would certainly me more
appropriate than any of the groups you've cross posted to.

[snip]

The OP was specifically trying to contact Roberto Waltman, who
apparently has posted to these groups using an invalid e-mail address.
This was arguably in appropriate, but the ensuing discussion hardly
seems necessary. I suggest moving on.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks***@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
San Diego Supercomputer Center <*> <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst>
We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this.
Dec 24 '05 #16

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Flash Gordon wrote in message ...
Walter Roberson wrote:
Munificent displays of Christmas spirit always restore my faith in
humanity.
What makes you think I am a Christian? If I'm not the Christmas is
irrelevant to me.


In that case, "Merry Christmas".
What has Christmas got to do with Christianity [1]? A TV program the other
night showed a guy who uesd a computer model to trace back the 'star' event.
He places Jesus' birthday at around April 16!
Imagine that. Jesus avoided the IRS until he was almost a year old!! <G>

Anyway, enjoy the holidays.
What you believe is your own.

[1] - it has become commercialism. ;-{
--
Bob R
POVrookie
Dec 24 '05 #17

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On 24 Dec 2005 11:01:15 +0100, Flash Gordon <sp**@flash-gordon.me.uk>
wrote:
so*********@yahoo.com wrote:
This is off topic, but I am desparate!
1) Don't post a new message on a new topic as a reply on an existing
thread.
2) It doesn't matter that other people can't help you , that is your
problem not ours.


Merry Christmas Asshole.
4) Post here, get an answer here. Certainly don't expect people do
download a pdf just to get your contact details!
5) You have probably (or greatly reduced) your chances of getting help
from the people who frequent these groups if you ever have a topical
question to post.
6) If you can't get help on things not topical here that is *your*
problem, not ours.


It's pathologic idiots - yes I said idiot - like YOU that get people
hurt or worse in serious situations. You have absolutely no
situational awareness of your surroundings do you. Strict
adherence to your sick little rules is all that matters, right.

The OP acknowledged his MINOR transgression but said he was desperate.
Despite being a sad little demigod in your own mind, it's not up to
you to decide that, because
people like you never get a clue as to when it is serious or not. If
you don't already work for the government I'm sure you soon will be.
Clueless wads like you always end up in the Complaint Dept. abusing
taxpayers.

I have news for you pal, there is more to life than this myopic ng.
Can you fathom that? Oh, right, you have proven you can't. Why have I
responded? I'm just sick of incompetent fools like you who fancy
themselves bullies. And if you want to play big-dog territorial games
I've been reading and posting in this ng since 1994. That's 77 dog
years to you.

"Bad things happen when good men do nothing."

To everyone else: Merry Christmas dammit and a Happy New Year.
Dec 24 '05 #18

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BobR said:
What has Christmas got to do with Christianity [1]?
Plenty, for Christians. For everyone else, the chance (rarely taken, alas)
to reflect on what Christmas /ought/ to have to do with Christianity.
A TV program the other
night showed a guy who uesd a computer model to trace back the 'star'
event. He places Jesus' birthday at around April 16!
Imagine that. Jesus avoided the IRS until he was almost a year old!! <G>


Think of 25 December as Jesus' "official" birthday. If the Queen can have
one, I don't see why He shouldn't get one too.

I was trying to think of an ObTopic, but I'm struggling to come up with one
that'll be relevant in all three groups. Even "hello world" would start an
argument. :-)

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
Dec 24 '05 #19

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On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 20:42:03 +0000, Flash Gordon
<sp**@flash-gordon.me.uk> wrote:
Walter Roberson wrote:
In article <n5************@news.flash-gordon.me.uk>,
Flash Gordon <sp**@flash-gordon.me.uk> wrote:
so*********@yahoo.com wrote:
What makes you think I am a Christian? If I'm not the Christmas is
irrelevant to me. Most people know why, it's because the OP is only going to get decent
advice somewhere it is appropriate.
I hear crickets and tumbleweeds at this "appropriate place."
<snip irrelevant stuff about where the poster works>
Okay, now in jerk-off denial mode...
You have absolutely no idea whether I care for the environment or not. I
somehow doubt that you have researched me well enough to know where I
work or what I do for a living or what else I may do, so for all you
know I could be spending the bulk of my time on such issues.
You work for the EPA then?
You have obviously just decided to attack me for telling the OP that it
is his/her problem to find where to get help, not ours, and have
researched the OP. However, if you really cared about the OPs problem
you would have researched the OPs problem and directed the OP to where
s/he could get help instead of attacking me.


He never once "attacked" you.

Flash-in-the-Pants has reached the pantheon of Usenet Kook Status.
Congrats.

You know many kooks end their sad existence during the holidays, look
into it.

Walking away muttering: My gawd, what an insufferable jerk. Phil
Helmuth must be his brother....
Dec 24 '05 #20

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Richard Heathfield wrote in message ...
BobR said:
A TV program the other
night showed a guy who uesd a computer model to trace back the 'star'
event. He places Jesus' birthday at around April 16!
Imagine that. Jesus avoided the IRS until he was almost a year old!! <G>
Think of 25 December as Jesus' "official" birthday. If the Queen can have
one, I don't see why He shouldn't get one too.
....and everyday as Jesus' un-official birthday.
I was trying to think of an ObTopic, but I'm struggling to come up with one
that'll be relevant in all three groups. Even "hello world" would start an
argument. :-)


I assume *everybody* has wxWidgets, so, pop this in somewhere and run it on
Dec 25, please. [ wxWidgets URL: http://www.wxwidgets.org ]
('C' & 'D' people: you should ne able to figure it out. <G>)

wxString Tmsg( _T(" Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! ") );
wxMessageBox(Tmsg, " To All : ", wxOK | wxICON_INFORMATION, 0);

--
Bob R
POVrookie
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:20:21 -0700, in comp.lang.c ,
Ju*****@BooWho.com wrote:
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Ju*****@BooWho.com wrote:
It's pathologic idiots - yes I said idiot - like YOU that get people
hurt or worse in serious situations. You have absolutely no
situational awareness of your surroundings do you. Strict
adherence to your sick little rules is all that matters, right.

The OP acknowledged his MINOR transgression but said he was desperate.
Despite being a sad little demigod in your own mind, it's not up to
you to decide that, because
people like you never get a clue as to when it is serious or not. If
you don't already work for the government I'm sure you soon will be.
Clueless wads like you always end up in the Complaint Dept. abusing
taxpayers.

I have news for you pal, there is more to life than this myopic ng.
Can you fathom that? Oh, right, you have proven you can't. Why have I
responded? I'm just sick of incompetent fools like you who fancy
themselves bullies. And if you want to play big-dog territorial games
I've been reading and posting in this ng since 1994. That's 77 dog
years to you.

"Bad things happen when good men do nothing."

To everyone else: Merry Christmas dammit and a Happy New Year.


Do you think that all this was necessary?
Dec 25 '05 #23

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6) If you can't get help on things not topical here that is *your*
problem, not ours.


I have one question: are you a U.S. taxpayer?

Because, if you are, it is your problem, too. The alternative to fixing
this machine is buying another one at a cost of from $500,000 to $1M
(using tax payer's dollars, of course).

If I have to put up with insufferable bores such as you to contact
Roberto, then so be it.

Have a very merry Christmas!

Tom Seim

Dec 25 '05 #24

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so*********@yahoo.com said:
6) If you can't get help on things not topical here that is *your*
problem, not ours.


I have one question: are you a U.S. taxpayer?


No. For national issues, try a local group. All the groups to which you
posted are international.

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
Dec 26 '05 #25

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You apparently don't seem to understand that I am trying to contact a
very specific person, Roberto Waltman. He posted to this group 5 days
ago, besides numerous other times. All other methods of contacting him
have, so far, failed.

I can be contacted at so*********@yahoo.com, or my before mentioned
contact info.

Tom Seim

BTW the question was directed at Flash Gordon, not you. Unfortunately
it seems that everyone is responding to my posts other than the one I
am interested in.

Dec 26 '05 #26

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so*********@yahoo.com said:
You apparently don't seem to understand that I am trying to contact a
very specific person, Roberto Waltman.
You apparently don't understand the purpose of comp.lang.c.
He posted to this group 5 days ago, besides numerous other times.
"This" group isn't meaningful, when you're posting to three groups at once.
All other methods of contacting him have, so far, failed.
Did you try asking Mrs Jones at the Cash n Carry on the High Street?
BTW the question was directed at Flash Gordon, not you.
Then why didn't you email it to him, instead of posting it in an
international newsgroup for everybody to see and respond to?
Unfortunately
it seems that everyone is responding to my posts other than the one I
am interested in.


If you're not interested in the responses you receive in Usenet, don't post
to Usenet.

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
Dec 26 '05 #27

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On 25 Dec 2005 23:44:26 -0800, in comp.lang.c , so*********@yahoo.com
wrote:
You apparently don't seem to understand that I am trying to contact a
very specific person, Roberto Waltman.
Thats well understood. The point is, this isn't a private chat room.
You can't have private one-to-one conversations here. Furthermore you
said:
I have one question: are you a U.S. taxpayer?
Because, if you are, it is your problem, too.
In response to which, its already been pointed out that whether or not
any of us are US taxpayers (and most of us aren't), its still offtopic
here.

You also said:The alternative to fixing
this machine is buying another one at a cost of from $500,000 to $1M
(using tax payer's dollars, of course).


To which I respectfully suggest that if the US Govt is too damn stupid
to keep contact details of manufacturers of expensive equipment on
file, and too cretinous to have escrow agreements regarding design
specs and software, then they should be forced to admit they're
wasting their voters' money.
BTW the question was directed at Flash Gordon, not you. Unfortunately
it seems that everyone is responding to my posts other than the one I
am interested in.


Usenet is *not* a private chatroom. If you post something, expect all
sorts of people to respond.
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Mark McIntyre wrote:
so*********@yahoo.com wrote:
You apparently don't seem to understand that I am trying to
contact a very specific person, Roberto Waltman.


Thats well understood. The point is, this isn't a private chat
room. You can't have private one-to-one conversations here.
Furthermore you said:


This is ridiculous. The OP put out one mild contact feeler. It
may not be strictly topical, but it certainly doesn't deserve this
nonsense. He can't use email, etc. Nobody would criticize anyone
here for asking what happened to Dan Pop (and nobody has either
criticized, nor answered, that in the past).

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Dec 26 '05 #29

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Chuck F. said:
This is ridiculous. The OP put out one mild contact feeler.


....which I ignored, not being the contact the OP was after. And I agree with
you that this was no big deal. But then he asked the following question:

"I have one question: are you a U.S. taxpayer?"

That isn't a mild contact feeler. That's an invitation to have the realities
of international discussions explained to him.

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
Dec 26 '05 #30

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On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:32:16 -0500, in comp.lang.c , "Chuck F. "
<cb********@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mark McIntyre wrote:
so*********@yahoo.com wrote:
You apparently don't seem to understand that I am trying to
contact a very specific person, Roberto Waltman.
Thats well understood. The point is, this isn't a private chat
room. You can't have private one-to-one conversations here.
Furthermore you said:


This is ridiculous. The OP put out one mild contact feeler.


I quite agree. I was responding to his points in the subsequent
blather, not the initial contact request, which I found quite
unobjectionable.
may not be strictly topical, but it certainly doesn't deserve this
nonsense. He can't use email, etc. Nobody would criticize anyone
here for asking what happened to Dan Pop (and nobody has either
criticized, nor answered, that in the past).


Quite. My main point was that blathering on about US Taxpayers'
dollars, govt failures to keep tabs on important s/w etc is not
relevant to CLC and not likely to impress anyone. I also wanted to
comment on this from the OP:
BTW the question was directed at Flash Gordon, not you.


which is an absurd thing to say, since usenet is a public discussion
forum.
Mark McIntyre
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Dec 26 '05 #31

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Richard Heathfield <in*****@invalid.invalid> writes:
Chuck F. said:
This is ridiculous. The OP put out one mild contact feeler.


...which I ignored, not being the contact the OP was after. And I agree with
you that this was no big deal. But then he asked the following question:

"I have one question: are you a U.S. taxpayer?"

That isn't a mild contact feeler. That's an invitation to have the realities
of international discussions explained to him.


Yes, and it was inappropriate, but it was in response to a followup
from someone else that was, in my opinion, an overreaction.

This whole thing has escalated to an absurd degree. I don't know or
care whose fault that is, but it's going to take everybody's
cooperation to end it. I suggest we all stop posting on this thread,
even if it means letting someone else have the last word.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks***@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
San Diego Supercomputer Center <*> <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst>
We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this.
Dec 26 '05 #32

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Keith Thompson wrote:
Richard Heathfield <in*****@invalid.invalid> writes:
Chuck F. said:
This is ridiculous. The OP put out one mild contact feeler. ...which I ignored, not being the contact the OP was after. And I agree with
you that this was no big deal. But then he asked the following question:

"I have one question: are you a U.S. taxpayer?"

That isn't a mild contact feeler. That's an invitation to have the realities
of international discussions explained to him.


Yes, and it was inappropriate, but it was in response to a followup
from someone else that was, in my opinion, an overreaction.


I'll accept I probably overreacted.
This whole thing has escalated to an absurd degree. I don't know or
care whose fault that is, but it's going to take everybody's
cooperation to end it. I suggest we all stop posting on this thread,
even if it means letting someone else have the last word.


Indeed.
--
Flash Gordon
Living in interesting times.
Although my email address says spam, it is real and I read it.
Dec 26 '05 #33

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Keith Thompson said:
I suggest we all stop posting on this thread,
even if it means letting someone else have the last word.


Ah, no, you don't catch me like tha^D#^$!).$@;1$0!ATZ

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
Dec 26 '05 #34

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On 23 Dec 2005 18:30:20 -0800, so*********@yahoo.com wrote:

Roberto Waltman wrote:
Roberto Waltman
[ Please reply to the group,
return address is invalid ]
This is off topic, but I am desparate!

After doing a search, I found that you worked on the software for the
Imagen 100. We have an Imagen 50 that is broken (the X-Y stage does not
operate) and I need any help that I can find. I contacted the company
that merged with Research Devices and they couldn't help me at all. If
you can help me, or know someone who can, please contact me at:

www.pnl.gov

Go to Google, type in "people finder", then choose from all the
services that claim to know where he is.
My contact info is in:

http://www.emsl.pnl.gov/docs/annual_...02/3_2_IDL.pdf

Huh? You expect folks to download a pdf to get your contact info?

--
Al Balmer
Sun City, AZ
Dec 27 '05 #35

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