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adi
Hello friend,
I've recently joined this public group. I've done lots of C
programming stuff during my engineering days but only on a CLI
(Turbo-C/C++). Right now i'm focussed on GUI programming through C and
also some bit on CGI. I've started reading materials relevant to it but
i'd like to ask that is this group encourages such topics or do I've to
subscribe to some other group specific to GUI programming in C. Help me
out, friend! Also send me some good resources/links for a zealing start
in this area. I've never done any Windows programming in C, though i've
used some bit of VB6.0 in one of my projects
Regards,
Adi

Nov 15 '05 #1
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"adi" <ad******@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Hello friend,
I've recently joined this public group. I've done lots of C
programming stuff during my engineering days but only on a CLI
(Turbo-C/C++). Right now i'm focussed on GUI programming through C and
also some bit on CGI. I've started reading materials relevant to it but
i'd like to ask that is this group encourages such topics or do I've to
subscribe to some other group specific to GUI programming in C. Help me
out, friend! Also send me some good resources/links for a zealing start
in this area. I've never done any Windows programming in C, though i've
used some bit of VB6.0 in one of my projects


http://www.ungerhu.com/jxh/clc.welcome.txt

-Mike
Nov 15 '05 #2

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adi wrote:
Hello friend,
I've recently joined this public group.
Welcome. As a new member, you should read some past postings, and the
comp.lang.c Frequently Asked Questions, to get an idea of what the topic
of discussion is here.

C.L.C. FAQ: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html
I've done lots of C
programming stuff during my engineering days but only on a CLI
(Turbo-C/C++).
That will be useful. Most of the programs we discuss here are well
suited to a command-line interface, as they use the portable I/O streams
(stdin, stdout, stderr).
Right now i'm focussed on GUI programming through C and
also some bit on CGI. I've started reading materials relevant to it but
i'd like to ask that is this group encourages such topics or do I've to
subscribe to some other group specific to GUI programming in C.
We don't discuss GUI programming here, because it is not defined by the
standard C language or included in the standard library.

Since the issues involved are different for each platform, you should
take any questions to a group that specialises in your chosen platform,
whether that is X11, Mac OS X, Windows, or something else.
Help me
out, friend! Also send me some good resources/links for a zealing start
in this area. I've never done any Windows programming in C, though i've
used some bit of VB6.0 in one of my projects


Oh, it's Windows programming? You might want to try one of the
comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.* groups.

--
Simon.
Nov 15 '05 #3

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"adi" <ad******@gmail.com> writes:
I've recently joined this public group. I've done lots of C
programming stuff during my engineering days but only on a CLI
(Turbo-C/C++). Right now i'm focussed on GUI programming through C and
also some bit on CGI. I've started reading materials relevant to it but
i'd like to ask that is this group encourages such topics or do I've to
subscribe to some other group specific to GUI programming in C. Help me
out, friend! Also send me some good resources/links for a zealing start
in this area. I've never done any Windows programming in C, though i've
used some bit of VB6.0 in one of my projects


Standard C has no support for GUI programming; it's done through
system-specific libraries.

You might try comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks***@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
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Nov 15 '05 #4

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Test a helloworld!

Nov 15 '05 #5

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In article <11**********************@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>,
adi <ad******@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello friend,
I've recently joined this public group. I've done lots of C
programming stuff during my engineering days but only on a CLI
(Turbo-C/C++). Right now i'm focussed on GUI programming through C and
also some bit on CGI. I've started reading materials relevant to it but
i'd like to ask that is this group encourages such topics or do I've to
subscribe to some other group specific to GUI programming in C. Help me
out, friend! Also send me some good resources/links for a zealing start
in this area. I've never done any Windows programming in C, though i've
used some bit of VB6.0 in one of my projects


Not portable. Can't discuss it here. Blah, blah, blah.

Nov 15 '05 #6

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"Fr**********@gmail.com" <Fr**********@gmail.com> writes:
Test a helloworld!


Please don't post test messages here. Try misc.test.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks***@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
San Diego Supercomputer Center <*> <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst>
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Nov 15 '05 #7

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On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 13:48:32 GMT, in comp.lang.c ,
ga*****@yin.interaccess.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
Not portable. Can't discuss it here. Blah, blah, blah.


Idiot.
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Nov 15 '05 #8

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In article <ln************@nuthaus.mib.org>,
Keith Thompson <ks***@mib.org> wrote:
"Fr**********@gmail.com" <Fr**********@gmail.com> writes:
Test a helloworld!


Please don't post test messages here. Try misc.test.


Um, er, not very PC of you.

Nov 15 '05 #9

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ga*****@yin.interaccess.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
In article <ln************@nuthaus.mib.org>,
Keith Thompson <ks***@mib.org> wrote:
"Fr**********@gmail.com" <Fr**********@gmail.com> writes:
Test a helloworld!


Please don't post test messages here. Try misc.test.


Um, er, not very PC of you.


It's also not very PC to tell people not to piss in the wastepaper
basket, then?

Richard
Nov 15 '05 #10

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Kenny McCormack wrote:
In article <ln************@nuthaus.mib.org>,
Keith Thompson <ks***@mib.org> wrote:
"Fr**********@gmail.com" <Fr**********@gmail.com> writes:
Test a helloworld!


Please don't post test messages here. Try misc.test.

Um, er, not very PC of you.


What exactly do you mean by "PC" here? I can't see anything Keith wrote
that would be considered politically incorrect, at least in my country
(Australia).

Here's one definition, from the American Heritage Dictionary: "Of,
relating to, or supporting broad social, political, and educational
change, especially to redress historical injustices in matters such as
race, class, gender, and sexual orientation."

If we define PC in that way, there's no need to be PC in comp.lang.c at
all. It would be completely off-topic to discuss social, political or
educational change to redress historical injustices!

Unless you want to take issue with some term used in the C standard,
that could be construed as racist, sexist, heterosexist, etc?

typedef long black;
typedef short white;

union {black man; white woman; } child;

:-)

--
Simon.
Nov 15 '05 #11

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"Simon Biber" <ne**@ralmin.cc> wrote in message
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Kenny McCormack wrote:
In article <ln************@nuthaus.mib.org>,
Keith Thompson <ks***@mib.org> wrote:
"Fr**********@gmail.com" <Fr**********@gmail.com> writes:

Test a helloworld!

Please don't post test messages here. Try misc.test.

Um, er, not very PC of you.


What exactly do you mean by "PC" here? I can't see anything Keith

wrote that would be considered politically incorrect, at least in my country
(Australia).
PC in America means, "frowned upon". I.e. if there are people involved,
it is political, and I assume you understand the incorrect part. I
myself am rarely PC in those terms, for instance. It has become a
generalization of the term, "not nice to others". Polish jokes and Fat
jokes are un-PC.

I believe Kenny was agreeing with Keith, and expanding on his point (I
may be wrong, but that is how I read it). So I saw the thread as:

FreeBSD: Test message.
Keith: Don't do that.
Kenny: Yeah, it's not PC to post a test message here.

But if Kenny is one of you furry-ners I guess it could be:

FreeBSD: Test message.
Keith: Don't do that.
Kenny: Keith, it's not PC call him on that.

The second seems wrong to me. Where is Kenny from?
Here's one definition, from the American Heritage Dictionary: "Of,
relating to, or supporting broad social, political, and educational
change, especially to redress historical injustices in matters such as
race, class, gender, and sexual orientation."
It has become a catch phrase, tho. Anything can be non-PC.

It's like walking up to a group of Sheilas and saying, "Hey, you guys
wanna go to a party?" or saying, "I have a bunch of friends who are
going to the ball game." These sentences seem completely normal to
RightPondians.
If we define PC in that way, there's no need to be PC in comp.lang.c at all. It would be completely off-topic to discuss social, political or
educational change to redress historical injustices!


It's not used that way any more. That is soooo last millennium.

--
Mabden
Nov 15 '05 #12

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On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:39:15 GMT, rl*@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl (Richard
Bos) wrote:
ga*****@yin.interaccess.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
In article <ln************@nuthaus.mib.org>,
Keith Thompson <ks***@mib.org> wrote:
>"Fr**********@gmail.com" <Fr**********@gmail.com> writes:
>> Test a helloworld!
>
>Please don't post test messages here. Try misc.test.


Um, er, not very PC of you.


It's also not very PC to tell people not to piss in the wastepaper
basket, then?

Don't feed the troll.
--
Al Balmer
Balmer Consulting
re************************@att.net
Nov 15 '05 #13

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On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 16:25:23 GMT, Keith Thompson <ks***@mib.org>
wrote:
"Fr**********@gmail.com" <Fr**********@gmail.com> writes:
Test a helloworld!


Please don't post test messages here. Try misc.test.


Heh. I thought that was intended to be a suggestion for a first
Windows program.
--
Al Balmer
Balmer Consulting
re************************@att.net
Nov 15 '05 #14

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In article <b2********************************@4ax.com>,
Alan Balmer <al******@att.net> wrote:
(Someone else)
It's also not very PC to tell people not to piss in the wastepaper
basket, then?

Don't feed the troll.


Agreed.

Nov 15 '05 #15

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Simon Biber <ne**@ralmin.cc> writes:
Kenny McCormack wrote:
In article <ln************@nuthaus.mib.org>,
Keith Thompson <ks***@mib.org> wrote:
"Fr**********@gmail.com" <Fr**********@gmail.com> writes:

Test a helloworld!

Please don't post test messages here. Try misc.test.

Um, er, not very PC of you.


What exactly do you mean by "PC" here? I can't see anything Keith
wrote that would be considered politically incorrect, at least in my
country (Australia).

[snip]

For those who aren't already aware, Kenny McCormack is an admitted
troll. He posts rude nonsense in a lame attempt to draw attention to
himself, because he thinks it's fun. He is best ignored; it's up to
you whether you want to killfile him.

I considered posting a followup asking what he meant by "PC", but I
soon realized that he probably doesn't mean anything coherent, and
even if he does I really don't care.

--
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San Diego Supercomputer Center <*> <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst>
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Nov 15 '05 #16

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In article <ln************@nuthaus.mib.org>,
Keith Thompson <ks***@mib.org> wrote:
....
For those who aren't already aware, Kenny McCormack is an admitted
troll.
Yes. True.
He posts rude nonsense
Yes. True.
(With the proviso that nonsense is in the eye of the beholder)
in a lame attempt to draw attention to himself
This I disagree with. I don't see how you can conclude anything about my
motives.
because he thinks it's fun.
Yes. True.
He is best ignored; it's up to you whether you want to killfile him.
How very generous of you. But, as with all things, beauty is in the eye of
the beholder.
I considered posting a followup asking what he meant by "PC", but I
soon realized that he probably doesn't mean anything coherent, and
even if he does I really don't care.


Well, since you asked, allow me to explain. It boils down to a few things:

1) As far as I'm concerned, when the dorky 3rd worlder posted:

"Test a hello world!"

I didn't for a second think that he was making a "test post".
Rather, I thought it was clear that he was, in his dorky 3rd
world way, saying "Well, try it. Let us know what you find."
Which is, quite often the best answer to a lot of newsgroup
posts. I think the original post (by another dorky 3rd worlder)
was along the lines of "What will happen if I do <X>?", a) which
is often homework, and b) the best answer to which is "Try it.
Let us know what you find."

2) Given that it was not a test post, your response seemed awfully
callous and unforgiving (of his dorky 3rd worldness), and I was
simply calling you on that. As you will see in point 3, the
last thing you want to be seen as on Usenet is callous or
lacking in "understanding".

3) I find it so very ironic that here in this newsgroup, where we
routinely bash people against the wall for the tiniest
infraction of the rules of C "as enshrined in the holy
standard", yet we are at the same time bound by one of the
highest primary directives of Usenet, which is the need to be
PC. That is, we are expected to make every effort to ignore
people's dorky 3rd worldness and try to interpret their stupid
little posts. Like I said, I just find it funny that we will
get all huffy about a microscopic C mistake, but we're supposed
to not only ignore gross language errors, but work extra hard to
try to figure out what they are saying.

4) I'm pretty sure that most of the dorky posts are put here
by Google, to further their nefarious ends...

Nov 15 '05 #17

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On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 23:46:56 GMT, in comp.lang.c ,
ga*****@yin.interaccess.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:

1) As far as I'm concerned, when the dorky 3rd worlder posted:


Lets remember however that you're an offensive prat, and possibly
racist too.
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On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 23:46:56 GMT, in comp.lang.c ,
ga*****@yin.interaccess.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
Tripe as usual.

Back in the bitbucket with you, laddy boy.
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"Kenny McCormack" <ga*****@yin.interaccess.com> wrote in message
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In article <ln************@nuthaus.mib.org>,
Keith Thompson <ks***@mib.org> wrote:
...
For those who aren't already aware, Kenny McCormack is an admitted
troll. Yes. True.


You say that like it is a Bad Thing.

I am not a troll (but I play one on Internet - kidding!), but have been
*plonk*'ed many times for trying to get my point across. People have
opinions, but that doesn't stop the Free Speech available on the
Internet, world-wide. I think it is better to have Free Speech (given a
few trolls) than to squelsh viewpoints.
He posts rude nonsense You say that like it is a Bad Thing.
in a lame attempt to draw attention to himself You say that like it is a Bad Thing.
because he thinks it's fun. You say that like it is a Bad Thing.
He is best ignored; it's up to you whether you want to killfile him.


How very generous of you. But, as with all things, beauty is in the

eye of the beholder.
You say that like it is a Good Thing... ;-)

3) I find it so very ironic that here in this newsgroup, where we
routinely bash people against the wall for the tiniest
infraction of the rules of C "as enshrined in the holy
standard", yet we are at the same time bound by one of the
highest primary directives of Usenet, which is the need to be
PC. That is, we are expected to make every effort to ignore
people's dorky 3rd worldness and try to interpret their stupid
little posts. Like I said, I just find it funny that we will
get all huffy about a microscopic C mistake, but we're supposed
to not only ignore gross language errors, but work extra hard to
try to figure out what they are saying.
I agree with this post. Therefore, not a troll.
4) I'm pretty sure that most of the dorky posts are put here
by Google, to further their nefarious ends...

You say that like it is a Bad Thing.

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Mabden
Nov 15 '05 #20

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