Embedded Vs Java

[Arun]

I have a query.I am a freah engineering graduate and have 2 job
offers.One is with LG Electronics Korea where I 'll be working in
korea as a software Engineer in Embedded systems exclusively at their
research labs .And second job is witha large software firm by the name
of TCS who has a global presence and where probably I'll be exposed to
technologies like Java /VB etc.I m in a deleima reagarding which one
to take up.Since all of u guys have industry experience ..kindly
suggest me something. Money is no issues for me right now rather I'mm
looking for good oppurtunities after 3 yrs and set my career path
right.

Thanx

[Joona I Palaste]

Arun <te*******@rediffmail.com> scribbled the following:

I have a query.I am a freah engineering graduate and have 2 job
offers.One is with LG Electronics Korea where I 'll be working in
korea as a software Engineer in Embedded systems exclusively at their
research labs .And second job is witha large software firm by the name
of TCS who has a global presence and where probably I'll be exposed to
technologies like Java /VB etc.I m in a deleima reagarding which one
to take up.Since all of u guys have industry experience ..kindly
suggest me something. Money is no issues for me right now rather I'mm
looking for good oppurtunities after 3 yrs and set my career path
right.

What was your C question?

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[Jalapeno]

In article <72**************************@posting.google.com >,
te*******@rediffmail.com (Arun) wrote:

I have a query.I am a freah engineering graduate and have 2 job
offers.One is with LG Electronics Korea where I 'll be working in
korea as a software Engineer in Embedded systems exclusively at their
research labs .And second job is witha large software firm by the name
of TCS who has a global presence and where probably I'll be exposed to
technologies like Java /VB etc.I m in a deleima reagarding which one
to take up.Since all of u guys have industry experience ..kindly
suggest me something. Money is no issues for me right now rather I'mm
looking for good oppurtunities after 3 yrs and set my career path
right.

Thanx

Take neither as both lead to dead end careers. The future is in fried
chicken served quickly. Your path to happiness starts here:

http://www.kfc.com/careers/

[Valentin Tihomirov]

Java vs. VB? You must know both. Java is a language of the future with very
good OOP practices. MS's movement towards it (C# and J# implementations)
just prove it.VB is a please of Bill Gates, a lanuage suitable only for
Windows administration purposes.
"Jalapeno" <ja*******@mac.com> wrote in message
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In article <72**************************@posting.google.com >,
te*******@rediffmail.com (Arun) wrote:

I have a query.I am a freah engineering graduate and have 2 job
offers.One is with LG Electronics Korea where I 'll be working in
korea as a software Engineer in Embedded systems exclusively at their
research labs .And second job is witha large software firm by the name
of TCS who has a global presence and where probably I'll be exposed to
technologies like Java /VB etc.I m in a deleima reagarding which one
to take up.Since all of u guys have industry experience ..kindly
suggest me something. Money is no issues for me right now rather I'mm
looking for good oppurtunities after 3 yrs and set my career path
right.

Thanx

Take neither as both lead to dead end careers. The future is in fried
chicken served quickly. Your path to happiness starts here:

http://www.kfc.com/careers/

[Joona I Palaste]

Valentin Tihomirov <va******@abelectron.com> scribbled the following:

Java vs. VB? You must know both. Java is a language of the future with very
good OOP practices. MS's movement towards it (C# and J# implementations)
just prove it.VB is a please of Bill Gates, a lanuage suitable only for
Windows administration purposes.

Who says one MUST know both? I've not written a single line of VB code
in my entire three-year-long programming career, and I don't think I'll
need to in the near future.

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[Chris Ling]

I had such a dilemma 3 years ago! So what is your C question anyway?
(BTW, use a spell checker if you have time)
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In article <72**************************@posting.google.com >,
te*******@rediffmail.com (Arun) wrote:

I have a query.I am a freah engineering graduate and have 2 job
offers.One is with LG Electronics Korea where I 'll be working in
korea as a software Engineer in Embedded systems exclusively at their
research labs .And second job is witha large software firm by the name
of TCS who has a global presence and where probably I'll be exposed to
technologies like Java /VB etc.I m in a deleima reagarding which one
to take up.Since all of u guys have industry experience ..kindly
suggest me something. Money is no issues for me right now rather I'mm
looking for good oppurtunities after 3 yrs and set my career path
right.

Thanx

Take neither as both lead to dead end careers. The future is in fried
chicken served quickly. Your path to happiness starts here:

http://www.kfc.com/careers/

[Dan Pop]

In <bm**********@oravannahka.helsinki.fi> Joona I Palaste <pa*****@cc.helsinki.fi> writes:

Who says one MUST know both? I've not written a single line of VB code
in my entire three-year-long programming career, and I don't think I'll
need to in the near future.

In the context of this thread, the OP actually does:

And second job is witha large software firm by the name of TCS who has
a global presence and where probably I'll be exposed to technologies
like Java /VB etc.

If I were in OP's position, I'd take the embedded software job without
a second thought: it's a lot more fun than having to deal with
"technologies" like Java and VB.

Dan
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Email: Da*****@ifh.de

[Joona I Palaste]

Dan Pop <Da*****@cern.ch> scribbled the following:

In <bm**********@oravannahka.helsinki.fi> Joona I Palaste <pa*****@cc.helsinki.fi> writes:

Who says one MUST know both? I've not written a single line of VB code
in my entire three-year-long programming career, and I don't think I'll
need to in the near future.

In the context of this thread, the OP actually does: And second job is witha large software firm by the name of TCS who has
a global presence and where probably I'll be exposed to technologies
like Java /VB etc. If I were in OP's position, I'd take the embedded software job without
a second thought: it's a lot more fun than having to deal with
"technologies" like Java and VB.

So you say, but I've had a Java programming career for three years (no
VB, luckily) and you wouldn't get me to touch embedded systems if you
tried.

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[Sheldon Simms]

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:28:40 +0000, Joona I Palaste wrote:

Dan Pop <Da*****@cern.ch> scribbled the following:

In <bm**********@oravannahka.helsinki.fi> Joona I Palaste <pa*****@cc.helsinki.fi> writes:

Who says one MUST know both? I've not written a single line of VB code
in my entire three-year-long programming career, and I don't think I'll
need to in the near future.

In the context of this thread, the OP actually does:

And second job is witha large software firm by the name of TCS who has
a global presence and where probably I'll be exposed to technologies
like Java /VB etc.

If I were in OP's position, I'd take the embedded software job without
a second thought: it's a lot more fun than having to deal with
"technologies" like Java and VB.

So you say, but I've had a Java programming career for three years (no
VB, luckily) and you wouldn't get me to touch embedded systems if you
tried.

Lets consider what's important here. The embedded job is in
Korea. That's reason enough to take it.

[Dan Pop]

In <bm**********@oravannahka.helsinki.fi> Joona I Palaste <pa*****@cc.helsinki.fi> writes:

Dan Pop <Da*****@cern.ch> scribbled the following:

In <bm**********@oravannahka.helsinki.fi> Joona I Palaste <pa*****@cc.helsinki.fi> writes:

Who says one MUST know both? I've not written a single line of VB code
in my entire three-year-long programming career, and I don't think I'll
need to in the near future.

In the context of this thread, the OP actually does:

And second job is witha large software firm by the name of TCS who has
a global presence and where probably I'll be exposed to technologies
like Java /VB etc.

If I were in OP's position, I'd take the embedded software job without
a second thought: it's a lot more fun than having to deal with
"technologies" like Java and VB.

So you say, but I've had a Java programming career for three years (no
VB, luckily) and you wouldn't get me to touch embedded systems if you
tried.

I prefixed my advice by "If I were in OP's position", so that it
should have been perfectly clear that it is a purely personal opinion.

I'm fully aware that embedded systems programming is not for everyone ;-)

Dan
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DESY Zeuthen, RZ group
Email: Da*****@ifh.de

[Joona I Palaste]

Dan Pop <Da*****@cern.ch> scribbled the following:

In <bm**********@oravannahka.helsinki.fi> Joona I Palaste <pa*****@cc.helsinki.fi> writes:

So you say, but I've had a Java programming career for three years (no
VB, luckily) and you wouldn't get me to touch embedded systems if you
tried.

I prefixed my advice by "If I were in OP's position", so that it
should have been perfectly clear that it is a purely personal opinion. I'm fully aware that embedded systems programming is not for everyone ;-)

You're right. No further arguments from me in this debate.

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[Christopher Benson-Manica]

Joona I Palaste <pa*****@cc.helsinki.fi> spoke thus:

Who says one MUST know both? I've not written a single line of VB code
in my entire three-year-long programming career, and I don't think I'll
need to in the near future.

Wait, three years?? If you'll pardon my praise, you seem a lot more
experienced than someone who's been programming for three years... heck, if I
know as much as you do in 3 years, I'll be happy :)

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[Mark McIntyre]

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:00:09 +0000 (UTC), in comp.lang.c , Christopher
Benson-Manica <at***@nospam.cyberspace.org> wrote:

Joona I Palaste <pa*****@cc.helsinki.fi> spoke thus:

Who says one MUST know both? I've not written a single line of VB code
in my entire three-year-long programming career, and I don't think I'll
need to in the near future.

Wait, three years?? If you'll pardon my praise, you seem a lot more
experienced than someone who's been programming for three years... heck, if I
know as much as you do in 3 years, I'll be happy :)

Yeah, but most of that was spent writing a database app and GUI
frontend to store his catalogue of legoland models and transformers,
entirely in ISO C... :-)

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Christopher Benson-Manica wrote:

Joona I Palaste <pa*****@cc.helsinki.fi> spoke thus:

Who says one MUST know both? I've not written a single line of VB code
in my entire three-year-long programming career, and I don't think I'll
need to in the near future.

Wait, three years?? If you'll pardon my praise, you seem a lot more
experienced than someone who's been programming for three years... heck, if I
know as much as you do in 3 years, I'll be happy :)

No, you have to catch up. Three years from now you have to know as much
as Joona does three years from now. :-) It is a challenge indeed, but
we'll all help you. Even Joona will.
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--- Albert Einstein ---

[Joona I Palaste]

Christopher Benson-Manica <at***@nospam.cyberspace.org> scribbled the following:

Joona I Palaste <pa*****@cc.helsinki.fi> spoke thus:

Who says one MUST know both? I've not written a single line of VB code
in my entire three-year-long programming career, and I don't think I'll
need to in the near future.

Wait, three years?? If you'll pardon my praise, you seem a lot more
experienced than someone who's been programming for three years... heck, if I
know as much as you do in 3 years, I'll be happy :)

Three years of programming for money. I've been *programming* for
longer, mostly for University exercises.

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[Arun]

Joona I Palaste <pa*****@cc.helsinki.fi> wrote in message news:<bm**********@oravannahka.helsinki.fi>...

Dan Pop <Da*****@cern.ch> scribbled the following:

In <bm**********@oravannahka.helsinki.fi> Joona I Palaste <pa*****@cc.helsinki.fi> writes:

So you say, but I've had a Java programming career for three years (no
VB, luckily) and you wouldn't get me to touch embedded systems if you
tried.

I prefixed my advice by "If I were in OP's position", so that it
should have been perfectly clear that it is a purely personal opinion.

I'm fully aware that embedded systems programming is not for everyone ;-)

You're right. No further arguments from me in this debate.

does it mean that one can find Java programmers much easily in the
market than an Embedded Programmers ?

But I also beleive that there's lot job oppurtunities with Java and
better pay scales too...That's what i get when i checked out various
Job Sites ?

[Joona I Palaste]

Arun <te*******@rediffmail.com> scribbled the following:

Joona I Palaste <pa*****@cc.helsinki.fi> wrote in message news:<bm**********@oravannahka.helsinki.fi>...

Dan Pop <Da*****@cern.ch> scribbled the following:

> In <bm**********@oravannahka.helsinki.fi> Joona I Palaste <pa*****@cc.helsinki.fi> writes:
>>So you say, but I've had a Java programming career for three years (no
>>VB, luckily) and you wouldn't get me to touch embedded systems if you
>>tried.

> I prefixed my advice by "If I were in OP's position", so that it
> should have been perfectly clear that it is a purely personal opinion.

> I'm fully aware that embedded systems programming is not for everyone ;-)

You're right. No further arguments from me in this debate.

does it mean that one can find Java programmers much easily in the
market than an Embedded Programmers ?

No. Neither does it mean the opposite. I am far too small a sample to
be of statistical importance.

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