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Hello

Where can I find some info about the inner working of new/delete??
Is this compiler specific or defined by the standard?? There is a lot
of info about the different malloc implementations but I can't find
anything about new.

thx
Jul 22 '05 #1
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wijhierbeneden wrote:
Where can I find some info about the inner working of new/delete??
Is this compiler specific or defined by the standard?? There is a lot
of info about the different malloc implementations but I can't find
anything about new.


What do you want to know? What C++ book do you have?
Jul 22 '05 #2
wijhierbeneden wrote:
Hello

Where can I find some info about the inner working of new/delete??
Is this compiler specific or defined by the standard??
The general behavior is defined by the standard in 3.7.3 that talks
about the allocation functions (operator new/delete) themselves,
5.3.4 and 5.3.5 which talk about the new/delete expressions themselves,
and of course 8.5 and 12.1 which talk about how initialization/consturctor
invocation occurs.
There is a lot
of info about the different malloc implementations but I can't find
anything about new.


The standard doesn't discuss the actual implentation of the allocation
deallocation function internals (just their interfaces) other than to
point out that they are designed to be able to be impelemented on top of
malloc/delete without much toil. In actuality, most implementations
do exactly that. Since they need to coexist with malloc, you have to
pretty much implement one in terms of the other or have them both call
a third common allocator.
Jul 22 '05 #3
wi************@hotmail.com (wijhierbeneden) wrote in message news:<23*************************@posting.google.c om>...
Hello

Where can I find some info about the inner working of new/delete??
Is this compiler specific or defined by the standard?? There is a lot
of info about the different malloc implementations but I can't find
anything about new.

thx


A good book for the inner workings of C++ is "Inside the C++ Object
Model" by Stanley Lippman
Jul 22 '05 #4
Gianni Mariani <gi*******@mariani.ws> wrote in message news:<jd********************@speakeasy.net>...
wijhierbeneden wrote:
Ron Natalie <ro*@sensor.com> wrote in message news:<41***********************@news.newshosting.c om>...

...

Is there no info about the exact inner implementations available??
That is what i want, i want to know how the Virtual table is created
how the object is build on the heap, ...
That's why i need the inner working of new
There must be some info about that, no??


the new operator is associated with dynamically created objects only.

The compiler is responsible for dealing with how virtual functions and
auto objects are allocated. This almost certainly has nothing to do
with new.


But the pointer to the virtual table is located inside the object.
Doesn't new has to create the pointer (the place where it points to
can be chosen by the compiler).
Jul 22 '05 #5
wijhierbeneden wrote:
Gianni Mariani <gi*******@mariani.ws> wrote in message news:<jd********************@speakeasy.net>...

....
The compiler is responsible for dealing with how virtual functions and
auto objects are allocated. This almost certainly has nothing to do
with new.

But the pointer to the virtual table is located inside the object.
Doesn't new has to create the pointer (the place where it points to
can be chosen by the compiler).


The constructor has this responsibility.
Jul 22 '05 #6
wijhierbeneden wrote:

Gianni Mariani <gi*******@mariani.ws> wrote in message news:<jd********************@speakeasy.net>...
wijhierbeneden wrote:
Ron Natalie <ro*@sensor.com> wrote in message news:<41***********************@news.newshosting.c om>...

...

Is there no info about the exact inner implementations available??
That is what i want, i want to know how the Virtual table is created
how the object is build on the heap, ...
That's why i need the inner working of new
There must be some info about that, no??


the new operator is associated with dynamically created objects only.

The compiler is responsible for dealing with how virtual functions and
auto objects are allocated. This almost certainly has nothing to do
with new.


But the pointer to the virtual table is located inside the object.
Doesn't new has to create the pointer (the place where it points to
can be chosen by the compiler).


The purpose of new (if you write your own) is to get your
hands at some memory and return a pointer to it. For this new
is given the size of the requested memory. The details of
object construction in that memory are taken care of by the code
which calls new.

--
Karl Heinz Buchegger
kb******@gascad.at
Jul 22 '05 #7
> Where can I find some info about the inner working of new/delete??
Is this compiler specific or defined by the standard?? There is a lot
of info about the different malloc implementations but I can't find
anything about new.


Would you like to read this?
- Freestore management
http://www.fmi.uni-konstanz.de/~kueh...tore-mgmt.html

- Memory Management
http://gotw.ca/gotw/009.htm
http://gotw.ca/gotw/010.htm

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_Plus_Plus

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_allocation

- http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/cis?q=malloc

- Discussion "memory allocation libraries for multithreaded
applications"
http://groups.google.de/groups?threa...ing.google.com

How do you think about to look at the sources of free compilers if you
are interested in implementation details?

Regards,
Markus
Jul 22 '05 #8
Gianni Mariani wrote:
wijhierbeneden wrote:
Gianni Mariani <gi*******@mariani.ws> wrote in message
news:<jd********************@speakeasy.net>...


...
The compiler is responsible for dealing with how virtual functions
and auto objects are allocated. This almost certainly has nothing to
do with new.


But the pointer to the virtual table is located inside the object.
Doesn't new has to create the pointer (the place where it points to
can be chosen by the compiler).

The constructor has this responsibility.


The C++ notion of the constructor DOES NOT. Implementations may
piggy back that initialization on the constructor linkage, but that's
just an impelementation detail.
Jul 22 '05 #9
Gianni Mariani wrote:
wijhierbeneden wrote:
Gianni Mariani wrote:
...
The compiler is responsible
for dealing with how virtual functions and auto objects are allocated.
This almost certainly has nothing to do with new.


But the pointer to the virtual table is located inside the object.
Doesn't new has to create the pointer
(the place where it points to can be chosen by the compiler).


The constructor has this responsibility.

cat C.h #ifndef GUARD_C_H

class C {
private:
// representation
int I;
// constructors
C(int i = 0);
virtual
~C(void);
};

#define GUARD_C_H
#endif//GUARD_C_H
cat C.cc #include "C.h"

C::C(int i): I(i) { }
C::~C(void) { }
g++ -Wall -ansi -pedantic -S C.cc
cat C.s

Jul 22 '05 #10
Gianni Mariani <gi*******@mariani.ws> wrote in message news:<o4********************@speakeasy.net>...
wijhierbeneden wrote:
Gianni Mariani <gi*******@mariani.ws> wrote in message news:<jd********************@speakeasy.net>...

...
The compiler is responsible for dealing with how virtual functions and
auto objects are allocated. This almost certainly has nothing to do
with new.

But the pointer to the virtual table is located inside the object.
Doesn't new has to create the pointer (the place where it points to
can be chosen by the compiler).


The constructor has this responsibility.


Why can the compiler know where the pointer must point to??
This is determind at runtime. So new has to do this i assume.
Jul 22 '05 #11

"wijhierbeneden" <wi************@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:23*************************@posting.google.co m...
Gianni Mariani <gi*******@mariani.ws> wrote in message

news:<o4********************@speakeasy.net>...
wijhierbeneden wrote:
Gianni Mariani <gi*******@mariani.ws> wrote in message
news:<jd********************@speakeasy.net>... ...
>The compiler is responsible for dealing with how virtual functions and
>auto objects are allocated. This almost certainly has nothing to do
>with new.
But the pointer to the virtual table is located inside the object.
Doesn't new has to create the pointer (the place where it points to
can be chosen by the compiler).


The constructor has this responsibility.


Why can the compiler know where the pointer must point to??
This is determind at runtime. So new has to do this i assume.


Which pointer are you talking about? The constructor is responsible for
assigning the pointer to a virtual table. There is one virtual table for
each class, so it is easy for the compiler to assign this.

The pointer to the object itself is of course determined by new.

john
Jul 22 '05 #12

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