Namespaces and performance

[zeroIWantNoSpamtype]

Hi,

I'm trying to get some old programs ported to standard C++ and I don't
fancy having to keep typing "std::", so I would like to enter

using namespace std
(I forget if there's a semicolon, but I can look that up)

If I do so, does it affect the performance of my code? (I'm only
worried about at runtime, not compile-time)

Again, can the run-time performance of my code be affected if I use
the using line instead of std:: in a normal C++ program using other
namespaces?

Thanks (and sorry I haven't yet got replies together to everyone who's
answered my questions so far),

James McLaughlin.

[Bob Hairgrove]

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:59:54 +0100, ze*****************@yahoo.com
wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to get some old programs ported to standard C++ and I don't
fancy having to keep typing "std::", so I would like to enter

using namespace std
(I forget if there's a semicolon, but I can look that up)
There is a semicolon ;-)
If I do so, does it affect the performance of my code? (I'm only
worried about at runtime, not compile-time)
No. But you SHOULD be worried about compile-time "performance" ...
especially if you put "using namespace std;" in a header file, which
is a big NO-NO. There are issues here which go far beyond run-time
performance.
Again, can the run-time performance of my code be affected if I use
the using line instead of std:: in a normal C++ program using other
namespaces?

No. All namespaces are resolved at compile time, i.e. if you have:

namespace foo {
class A {};
}

and:

namespace bar {
class A {};
}

then foo::A and bar::A are distinct identifiers which are mangled by
the compiler such that the linker will be able to identify them as
distinct entities later. This has no run-time impact, AFAIK.

--
Bob Hairgrove
No**********@Home.com

[Gianni Mariani]

ze*****************@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to get some old programs ported to standard C++ and I don't
fancy having to keep typing "std::", so I would like to enter

using namespace std
(I forget if there's a semicolon, but I can look that up)

If I do so, does it affect the performance of my code? (I'm only
worried about at runtime, not compile-time)

This is probably a platform specific question, but as far as I know no
run-time performance issues exist if you use "using namespace" on any of
the compiler implementations that I have used.

[Joe C]

"Bob Hairgrove" <in*****@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:ns********************************@4ax.com...

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:59:54 +0100, ze*****************@yahoo.com
wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to get some old programs ported to standard C++ and I don't
fancy having to keep typing "std::", so I would like to enter

using namespace std
(I forget if there's a semicolon, but I can look that up)

There is a semicolon ;-)

If I do so, does it affect the performance of my code? (I'm only
worried about at runtime, not compile-time)

No. But you SHOULD be worried about compile-time "performance" ...
especially if you put "using namespace std;" in a header file, which
is a big NO-NO. There are issues here which go far beyond run-time
performance.

Bob, I understand the issue with pulling namespace std into a header file.
However is there any pragmatic reason not to use the std namespace in
implementation (eg *.cpp) files?

Again, can the run-time performance of my code be affected if I use
the using line instead of std:: in a normal C++ program using other
namespaces?

No. All namespaces are resolved at compile time, i.e. if you have:

namespace foo {
class A {};
}

and:

namespace bar {
class A {};
}

then foo::A and bar::A are distinct identifiers which are mangled by
the compiler such that the linker will be able to identify them as
distinct entities later. This has no run-time impact, AFAIK.

--
Bob Hairgrove
No**********@Home.com

[Jonathan Turkanis]

"Gianni Mariani" <gi****@mariani.ws> wrote in message
news:96********************@speakeasy.net...

ze*****************@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to get some old programs ported to standard C++ and I don't fancy having to keep typing "std::", so I would like to enter

using namespace std
(I forget if there's a semicolon, but I can look that up)

If I do so, does it affect the performance of my code? (I'm only
worried about at runtime, not compile-time)
This is probably a platform specific question, but as far as I know

no run-time performance issues exist if you use "using namespace" on any of the compiler implementations that I have used.

Strictly speaking, it depends on the implementation. But only an
insane implementation would result in a runtime penalty.

Jonathan

[Bob Hairgrove]

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 23:09:46 -0400, "Joe C" <jk*****@bellsouth.net>
wrote:

Bob, I understand the issue with pulling namespace std into a header file.
However is there any pragmatic reason not to use the std namespace in
implementation (eg *.cpp) files?

If you put it AFTER all the #include lines, it is probably OK.
However, it is best to limit te scope to using directives to
individual function bodies, or better still to use "using std::cout;"
type declarations within a function (I can never remember which is
which ... directives and declarations ...)

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Bob Hairgrove
No**********@Home.com