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Does anyone here know a good website for someone that wants to start
programming?
Jul 22 '05 #1
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"Tmt353" <tm****@aol.com> wrote in message
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Does anyone here know a good website for someone that wants to start
programming?


http://www.google.com
Jul 22 '05 #2


Tmt353 wrote:
Does anyone here know a good website for someone that wants to start
programming?


I would recommend a trip to your local library, where you should be able
to 'download' a book from one of the shelves that will give you the
basics. Trying to start via a website would be doomed to failure because:

a) Looking at a computer screen numbs the mind, and,

b) You will spend many frustrating hours trying to find a webpage
general enough for your needs.

Jul 22 '05 #3
tm****@aol.com (Tmt353) wrote in message news:<20***************************@mb-m17.aol.com>...
Does anyone here know a good website for someone that wants to start
programming?


One possibility would be www.mindview.net, where you can download
_Thinking in C++_ volumes 1 and 2.

--
Later,
Jerry.

The Universe is a figment of its own imagination.
Jul 22 '05 #4

"Havatcha" <no****@for.me> wrote in message
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a) Looking at a computer screen numbs the mind, and,


That's interesting. Do you have any evidence to support this?

Regards,
Sumit.
Jul 22 '05 #5
"Havatcha" <no****@for.me> wrote in message
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basics. Trying to start via a website would be doomed to failure because:

a) Looking at a computer screen numbs the mind, and,


So *that's* what's wrong with me! :-)

-Mike
Jul 22 '05 #6
tm****@aol.com (Tmt353) wrote in message news:<20***************************@mb-m17.aol.com>...
Does anyone here know a good website for someone that wants to start
programming?


Start programming from where? From no ability to program at all?
Or having programmed in another lang and you want to pick up C++?
Or some other?

If you've never done any programming at all, let me recommend that
you take some college level courses. Programming is a *HUGE* topic.
At the very least, get yourself some community college level training.
The summer semester should be starting any time now.

If you've worked in other languages, then I suggest _Accelerated C++_
by Koenig and Moo. Wonderful book.

After that, it depends on where you want to go and what area you
want to program.
Socks
Jul 22 '05 #7

"Havatcha" <no****@for.me> wrote in message
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Tmt353 wrote:
Does anyone here know a good website for someone that wants to start
programming?


I would recommend a trip to your local library, where you should be able
to 'download' a book from one of the shelves that will give you the
basics. Trying to start via a website would be doomed to failure because:

a) Looking at a computer screen numbs the mind, and,


Hmm...what I´d be interested in is how you´re going to develop software if
you´re not going to look at a screen? :-)

Cheers
Chris
Jul 22 '05 #8

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"Havatcha" <no****@for.me> wrote in message
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Tmt353 wrote:
Does anyone here know a good website for someone that wants to start
programming?


I would recommend a trip to your local library, where you should be able
to 'download' a book from one of the shelves that will give you the
basics. Trying to start via a website would be doomed to failure because:
a) Looking at a computer screen numbs the mind, and,


Hmm...what I´d be interested in is how you´re going to develop software if
you´re not going to look at a screen? :-)


Actually, I've written quite a bit of software without looking at
a screen. Mostly COBOL and FORTRAN. A long time ago. Those machines
didn't *have* screens (or keyboards). I wrote my code with a pencil.

-Mike
Jul 22 '05 #9
Hi!

Yes I know. It is www.codeguru.com or org or net, www.codeproject.com
Bye...
"Tmt353" <tm****@aol.com> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:
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Does anyone here know a good website for someone that wants to start
programming?

Jul 22 '05 #10
tm****@aol.com (Tmt353) wrote in message news:<20***************************@mb-m17.aol.com>...
Does anyone here know a good website for someone that wants to start
programming?

Well...

If you are looking for a web site, try cplus.about.com, it has helped
me on basic problems. Maybe you should buy a good book, first of this,
as the colleague said before, if doing this I suggest "C++ How To
Program", by Deitel & Deitel, it fits better for newbies, like you and
me.
Feel free to send me e-mails, maybe we could help ourselves.

good luck,

Roberto Dias
Recife/PE - Brazil
Jul 22 '05 #11
a) Looking at a computer screen numbs the mind, and,

Hmm...what I´d be interested in is how you´re going to develop software if
you´re not going to look at a screen? :-)

You do the input with keyboard and screen, you do the design and
development with pen, paper, brain, fresh air and mild stimulants.

Jul 22 '05 #12


Sumit Rajan wrote:
"Havatcha" <no****@for.me> wrote in message
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a) Looking at a computer screen numbs the mind, and,

That's interesting. Do you have any evidence to support this?


Only my own exp...expeeeeereeee....aaaance *drools*

Jul 22 '05 #13

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"Chris Theis" <Ch*************@nospam.cern.ch> wrote in message
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"Havatcha" <no****@for.me> wrote in message
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Tmt353 wrote:

> Does anyone here know a good website for someone that wants to start
> programming?

I would recommend a trip to your local library, where you should be able to 'download' a book from one of the shelves that will give you the
basics. Trying to start via a website would be doomed to failure because:
a) Looking at a computer screen numbs the mind, and,


Hmm...what I´d be interested in is how you´re going to develop software if you´re not going to look at a screen? :-)


Actually, I've written quite a bit of software without looking at
a screen. Mostly COBOL and FORTRAN. A long time ago. Those machines
didn't *have* screens (or keyboards). I wrote my code with a pencil.

-Mike


Okay, point taken Mike, but I guess you don´t wanna go back to those times?
;-) (I can only speak for myself but I do not want to)

Chris
Jul 22 '05 #14

"Havatcha" <no****@for.me> wrote in message
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a) Looking at a computer screen numbs the mind, and,

Hmm...what I´d be interested in is how you´re going to develop software if you´re not going to look at a screen? :-)

You do the input with keyboard and screen, you do the design and
development with pen, paper, brain, fresh air and mild stimulants.


Okay ;-) IMHO the development includes the input of the actual code because
what´s the best design/concept worth if it is not implemented?

Cheers
Chris
Jul 22 '05 #15

You do the input with keyboard and screen, you do the design and
development with pen, paper, brain, fresh air and mild stimulants.

Okay ;-) IMHO the development includes the input of the actual code because
what´s the best design/concept worth if it is not implemented?


Quite so, but I find it much better to separate code entry and actual
design.
I find thinking about software design whilst typing code a bit like
trying to rotate one arm clockwise and the other anticlockwise.

Jul 22 '05 #16

"Havatcha" <no****@for.me> wrote in message
news:cb**********@nntp0.reith.bbc.co.uk...

You do the input with keyboard and screen, you do the design and
development with pen, paper, brain, fresh air and mild stimulants.

Okay ;-) IMHO the development includes the input of the actual code because what´s the best design/concept worth if it is not implemented?


Quite so, but I find it much better to separate code entry and actual
design.
I find thinking about software design whilst typing code a bit like
trying to rotate one arm clockwise and the other anticlockwise.


Isn´t that what a software developer is required to do everyday following
customer wishes? ;-) No, of course I agree with you that first one should
conjure up a concept and design and then start implementing it.

Chris
Jul 22 '05 #17
"Vladimir Shishkovsky" <su********@mail.ru> wrote in message news:<40dd8c4f@skynet>...
Hi!

Yes I know. It is www.codeguru.com or org or net, www.codeproject.com
Bye...
"Tmt353" <tm****@aol.com> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:
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Does anyone here know a good website for someone that wants to start
programming?


I agree with the message before. You need a book. Don't buy one of
those college textbooks that cost 100 dollars(I mean that crappy book
that I had to use for my college programming class written by some
authors at Temple University. It was the worst c++ book I ever read,
and it cost 110 dollars.)
A good book might be ones that say "Beginner" in the title. You may
need a few books to really get a handle on the language. Good luck.

-Rob
Jul 22 '05 #18
If it helps, I learned from a book called "C++ Programming in Easy Steps" by
Mike McGrath (Barnes & Noble). It was just 10 bucks and it's a thousand
times better than all the other C++ tutorial books I've read, although I
haven't read any of the usual ones (C++ Primer Plus: Fourth Edition is
supposed to be good).

A couple of tips:
-Avoid books with names like "Learn blank in blank hours." I made this
mistake and got one heck of a lousy book (published by Sams). It was mainly
about having Visual C++.NET write programs for you and then altering two or
three lines to get what you want.
-Don't buy a tutorial book that comes with a CD. Usually, these rely
heavily on the CD content instead of good writing in the book itself.
-Good publishers: Addison-Wesley, Charles River Media, Morgan Kaufmann

"Roberto Dias" <di*****@br.inter.net> wrote in message
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tm****@aol.com (Tmt353) wrote in message

news:<20***************************@mb-m17.aol.com>...
Does anyone here know a good website for someone that wants to start
programming?

Well...

If you are looking for a web site, try cplus.about.com, it has helped
me on basic problems. Maybe you should buy a good book, first of this,
as the colleague said before, if doing this I suggest "C++ How To
Program", by Deitel & Deitel, it fits better for newbies, like you and
me.
Feel free to send me e-mails, maybe we could help ourselves.

good luck,

Roberto Dias
Recife/PE - Brazil

Jul 22 '05 #19
who
Roberto,
Feel free to send me e-mails, maybe we could help ourselves.


Newsgroups like comp.lang.learn.c-c++ were setup specifically to assist
learners. Maybe try that group.

Regards,

M
Jul 22 '05 #20
"who" <so*****@somewhere.com> wrote...
Roberto,
Feel free to send me e-mails, maybe we could help ourselves.


Newsgroups like comp.lang.learn.c-c++ were setup specifically to assist
learners. Maybe try that group.


It's actually alt.comp.lang.learn.c-c++ (note the 'alt.')

Jul 22 '05 #21

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