Windows programming tutorial?

[Neil]

Does anyone know of a good windows C++ programming tutorial (either online
or in a book) that actually shows you how to program a windows application
from scratch, rather than the 'Scribble' one included which makes use of
pre-generated code and what not.

Cheers.

[gabriel]

Neil wrote:

Does anyone know of a good windows C++ programming tutorial (either
online or in a book) that actually shows you how to program a windows
application from scratch, rather than the 'Scribble' one included
which makes use of pre-generated code and what not.

Get the Petzold book (Microsoft Press) for your version of Windows. I
think he has done one for every major Windows release, although I'm not
sure about XP. Think about it, what you are asking for is much, much
longer than a mere "tutorial."

If you have more questions about it post to the comp.os.ms-
windows.programmer.* newsgroups or you risk the ravaging fury of some
people here. This group is strictly for c++ _language_, not O/S and
framework dependant implementation details.

--
gabriel

[Bryan Bullard]

"Neil" <no****@nospam.com> wrote in message
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see Herbert Schildt's book MFC Programming from the Ground Up.

Does anyone know of a good windows C++ programming tutorial (either online
or in a book) that actually shows you how to program a windows application
from scratch, rather than the 'Scribble' one included which makes use of
pre-generated code and what not.

Cheers.

[osmium]

Bryan Bullard writes:

"Neil" <no****@nospam.com> wrote in message
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see Herbert Schildt's book MFC Programming from the Ground Up.

Is that a joke? If not, what does "from scratch" mean to you? To me, it
means using the Windows API complete with all its hideous, mind-numbing
complexity.

Does anyone know of a good windows C++ programming tutorial (either online or in a book) that actually shows you how to program a windows application from scratch, rather than the 'Scribble' one included which makes use of
pre-generated code and what not.

To the OP: such a thing came with my Borland compiler, but that is not
really a book in the sense you mean.

[red floyd]

Bryan Bullard wrote:

"Neil" <no****@nospam.com> wrote in message
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see Herbert Schildt's book MFC Programming from the Ground Up.

Schildt? Schildt?!!? You're kidding, right?

[Bryan Bullard]

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:)

actually, when i began mfc the book was very helpful to me. i haven't done
any mfc in a while and i'm sure there are better books out there now. in
the late nineties, there were not a lot of books out there that dealt with
mfc exclusively w/o the vc++ wizards. or at least i wasn't aware of them.

the book is actually pretty plan (not very sophisticated) an easily
digestible. that's why i would suggest it for a beginner.

perhaps, you should share what texts were most helpful to you.

-bryan

Bryan Bullard wrote:

"Neil" <no****@nospam.com> wrote in message
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see Herbert Schildt's book MFC Programming from the Ground Up.

Schildt? Schildt?!!? You're kidding, right?

[Bryan Bullard]

"osmium" <r1********@comcast.net> wrote in message
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please see my post to red floyd.

Bryan Bullard writes:

"Neil" <no****@nospam.com> wrote in message
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see Herbert Schildt's book MFC Programming from the Ground Up.

Is that a joke? If not, what does "from scratch" mean to you? To me, it
means using the Windows API complete with all its hideous, mind-numbing
complexity.

Does anyone know of a good windows C++ programming tutorial (either online or in a book) that actually shows you how to program a windows application from scratch, rather than the 'Scribble' one included which makes use of pre-generated code and what not.

To the OP: such a thing came with my Borland compiler, but that is not
really a book in the sense you mean.

[Gary]

"red floyd" <no*****@here.dude> wrote in message
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Bryan Bullard wrote:

"Neil" <no****@nospam.com> wrote in message
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see Herbert Schildt's book MFC Programming from the Ground Up.

Schildt? Schildt?!!? You're kidding, right?

Knee-jerk reaction! Actually, the MFC Programming book is okay -- easily
readable, nice clean, small examples that actually run as advertised. It is
MFC, of course, and not "from the ground up" if you mean using API's, but it
will do as a quick start.
--
Gary

[Le Géant Vert]

Neil wrote:

Does anyone know of a good windows C++ programming tutorial (either online
or in a book) that actually shows you how to program a windows application
from scratch, rather than the 'Scribble' one included which makes use of
pre-generated code and what not.

Cheers.

got a link that helped me a lot : tutorial for both win32 and MFC ;
anyway, this is _ONLY_ a tutorial : you'll have to dig deeper to create
a full software :

http://www.functionx.com/visualc/

[Le Géant Vert]

Neil wrote:

Does anyone know of a good windows C++ programming tutorial (either online
or in a book) that actually shows you how to program a windows application
from scratch, rather than the 'Scribble' one included which makes use of
pre-generated code and what not.

Cheers.

got a link that help me a lot when I started programming windows
softwares ; anyway, this in _ONLY_ a tutorial (win32 and MFC), so you'll
have to dig deeper in order to create a full software :

http://www.functionx.com/visualc/

hope it will help a bit

[Le Géant Vert]

Neil wrote:

Does anyone know of a good windows C++ programming tutorial (either online
or in a book) that actually shows you how to program a windows application
from scratch, rather than the 'Scribble' one included which makes use of
pre-generated code and what not.

Cheers.

got a link that help me a lot when I started programming windows
softwares ; anyway, this in _ONLY_ a tutorial (win32 and MFC), so you'll
have to dig deeper in order to create a full software :

http://www.functionx.com/visualc/

hope it will help a bit

PS : sorry if that post appears more than once :(