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What After C and C++?

First it was C, then C++, what comes next?
Jul 22 '05 #1
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"Penna Elabi" <te*********@go.com> wrote in message
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First it was
A whole bunch of computer languages, then
C, then
a whole bunch more computer languages, then
C++, what comes next?


A whole bunch more.

So what?

Did you have a question about C++ (which is the *only* topic here) ?

-Mike

Jul 22 '05 #2
"Penna Elabi" <te*********@go.com> wrote...
First it was C, then C++, what comes next?


Who cares? This newsgroup is concerned with C++,
not with what comes next or what goes before.
Jul 22 '05 #3
Penna Elabi wrote:
First it was C, then C++, what comes next?


C again.

--
WW aka Attila
:::
Spouse: 'What did you do today?' Computer Science Prof: 'I taught some
UNIX.' Spouse: 'That's nice, dear. What did you teach them?'
Jul 22 '05 #4
A
First it was C, then C++, what comes next?


Java and C#
Jul 22 '05 #5
"A" <A@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:<3f**********@news.iprimus.com.au>...
First it was C, then C++, what comes next?


Java and C#


Bjarne Stroustrup says on his web page about C#:

"I have no comments on C# as a language. It will take a lot
to persuade me that the world needs yet another proprietary
language (YAPL). It will be especially hard to persuade me
that it needs a language that is closely integrated with a
specific proprietary operating system. Clearly, I'm no great
fan of proprietary languages, and quite a fan of open,
formal standards."
http://www.research.att.com/~bs/bs_faq.html#Csharp

So maybe the next BIG programming language won't be C#, because we
don't know the future of Microsoft and C# is a language that is
"closely integrated with a specific proprietary operating system."

Also, Stroustrup said on an interview about Java:

"I outlined the design criteria for C++ in detail in The
Design and Evolution of C++, and Java doesn't even start
to meet those criteria. -- Unlike Java, C++ supports
the ability to effectively compose a program out of
parts written in different languages,
a variety of design and programming styles,
user-defined types with efficiencies that approach
built-in types, uniform treatment of built-in and
user-defined types, and the ability to use generic
containers without runtime overhead"
http://www.research.att.com/~bs/ieee_interview.html

Because of the limitations Stroustrup listed about Java, perhaps the
next big language won't be Java either.

When Stroustrup designed C++, maybe people didn't know how big it
would get. Maybe we won't know the next great language, until it has
been in the public for a few decades.
Jul 22 '05 #6
Hi,

"Penna Elabi" <te*********@go.com> wrote in message
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First it was C, then C++, what comes next?


Let me think.

C is just C
C++ is C increased by one. So the next one is likely to be
C+=2

Regards, Ron AF Greve.
Jul 22 '05 #7
Penna Elabi wrote:
"A" <A@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:<3f**********@news.iprimus.com.au>...
> First it was C, then C++, what comes next?


Java and C#


Bjarne Stroustrup says on his web page about C#:

"I have no comments on C# as a language. It will take a lot
to persuade me that the world needs yet another proprietary
language (YAPL). It will be especially hard to persuade me
that it needs a language that is closely integrated with a
specific proprietary operating system. Clearly, I'm no great
fan of proprietary languages, and quite a fan of open,
formal standards."
http://www.research.att.com/~bs/bs_faq.html#Csharp

So maybe the next BIG programming language won't be C#, because we
don't know the future of Microsoft and C# is a language that is
"closely integrated with a specific proprietary operating system."


Nobody said anything about BIG programming languages. It's correct that
C# came (i.e started to be used) after C++.

Jul 22 '05 #8
"Moonlit" <al******@jupiter.universe> wrote...
"Penna Elabi" <te*********@go.com> wrote in message
news:77**************************@posting.google.c om...
First it was C, then C++, what comes next?


Let me think.

C is just C
C++ is C increased by one. So the next one is likely to be
C+=2


I don't think so. C++ is already C increased by 1. To
increase it further you just need to keep doing C++ C++
C++ C++ C++ C++ C++ ...
Jul 22 '05 #9
Victor Bazarov wrote:
"Moonlit" <al******@jupiter.universe> wrote...
"Penna Elabi" <te*********@go.com> wrote in message
news:77**************************@posting.google .com...
First it was C, then C++, what comes next?


Let me think.

C is just C
C++ is C increased by one. So the next one is likely to be
C+=2

I don't think so. C++ is already C increased by 1. To
increase it further you just need to keep doing C++ C++
C++ C++ C++ C++ C++ ...


post increments are bad.

( ++ C ) ++

so:

( ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ C ) ++

follows

Jul 22 '05 #10

"Victor Bazarov" <v.********@comAcast.net> wrote in message
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"Moonlit" <al******@jupiter.universe> wrote...
"Penna Elabi" <te*********@go.com> wrote in message
news:77**************************@posting.google.c om...
First it was C, then C++, what comes next?


Let me think.

C is just C
C++ is C increased by one. So the next one is likely to be
C+=2


I don't think so. C++ is already C increased by 1.


It's worth noting that whilst C++ is C increased, the value
of C++ is just the value of C *before the increment*... :-)
Perhaps the next language should therefore be ++C to
actually reap the benefits.

Cheers!

- Risto -

Jul 22 '05 #11

"Risto Lankinen" <rl******@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Victor Bazarov" <v.********@comAcast.net> wrote in message
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"Moonlit" <al******@jupiter.universe> wrote...
"Penna Elabi" <te*********@go.com> wrote in message
news:77**************************@posting.google.c om...
> First it was C, then C++, what comes next?

Let me think.

C is just C
C++ is C increased by one. So the next one is likely to be
C+=2


I don't think so. C++ is already C increased by 1.


It's worth noting that whilst C++ is C increased, the value
of C++ is just the value of C *before the increment*... :-)
Perhaps the next language should therefore be ++C to
actually reap the benefits.

Cheers!

- Risto -

C was derived from a language called B, which then became C++.
Accordingly the next one could feasibly be called --E

Sean
Jul 22 '05 #12
Sean Kenwrick wrote:
"Risto Lankinen" <rl******@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Victor Bazarov" <v.********@comAcast.net> wrote in message
news:Zeoyb.370499$Fm2.368218@attbi_s04...
"Moonlit" <al******@jupiter.universe> wrote...

"Penna Elabi" <te*********@go.com> wrote in message
news:77**************************@posting.goog le.com...

>First it was C, then C++, what comes next?

Let me think.

C is just C
C++ is C increased by one. So the next one is likely to be
C+=2

I don't think so. C++ is already C increased by 1.


It's worth noting that whilst C++ is C increased, the value
of C++ is just the value of C *before the increment*... :-)
Perhaps the next language should therefore be ++C to
actually reap the benefits.

Cheers!

- Risto -


C was derived from a language called B, which then became C++.
Accordingly the next one could feasibly be called --E

Sean


But B was derived from BCPL. I thought that Ritchie once said the next language would be "P".

Jul 22 '05 #13
red floyd <no*****@here.dude> wrote in message news:<4e*******************@newssvr25.news.prodigy .com>...
Sean Kenwrick wrote:
"Risto Lankinen" <rl******@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Victor Bazarov" <v.********@comAcast.net> wrote in message
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"Moonlit" <al******@jupiter.universe> wrote...

>"Penna Elabi" <te*********@go.com> wrote in message
>news:77**************************@posting.goog le.com...
>
>>First it was C, then C++, what comes next?
>
>Let me think.
>
>C is just C
>C++ is C increased by one. So the next one is likely to be
>C+=2

I don't think so. C++ is already C increased by 1.

It's worth noting that whilst C++ is C increased, the value
of C++ is just the value of C *before the increment*... :-)
Perhaps the next language should therefore be ++C to
actually reap the benefits.

Cheers!

- Risto -


C was derived from a language called B, which then became C++.
Accordingly the next one could feasibly be called --E

Sean


But B was derived from BCPL. I thought that Ritchie once said the next language would be "P".

so... why hasn't anyone written a formal spec yet?
Jul 22 '05 #14

"Charles Banas" <gr******@the-junkyard.net> wrote in message
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But B was derived from BCPL. I thought that Ritchie once said the next
language would be "P".
so... why hasn't anyone written a formal spec yet?


Here is what "P" means to me. One time my friend and I in college were, um,
inebriated. We were hungry and went to the snack machine. This was the
kind with the big glass front, and all the snacks on helix coils, with a
letter to mark it - A, B, C, etc. We put in our money and hit "P".
Unfortunately it was the wrong letter as that column was empty. We thought
that was pretty funny, so we entered more money and kept hitting P just to
watch the coil spin. Now *that* was hilarious. Anyway, ever since P means
"snack" and is unsuitable as a computer language.
Jul 22 '05 #15

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