On Aug 18, 10:04*am, "Peter Duniho" <NpOeStPe...@nnowslpianmk.com>
wrote:
WHy do you value honesty? *What an as s. *Perhaps it's your myopic
'anglo-saxon' mindset.
Actually, it's a sign of maturity and integrity.
No, it's a sign of the environment he posts in--he's in the UK, where
they try and maintain such a patina of 'honesty' as part of their
culture (never mind behind closed doors they are as dishonest as the
rest of us). "Honesty is the best policy" (not). His employers,
Sergey and Larry, from one of the most disingenuous countries on earth
(like the Balkans, and cut from the same cloth) don't believe in
integrity--'do no evil' is a marketing ploy for Anglo-Saxons fairy
tale believers--maybe that's why they are so successful; Russian
expats are #1 in the world on a per capita basis for wealth.
>
There's a world of things you, a twenty-
something, has to learn before you get off your high horse--do some
traveling outside of your merry old England and learn about different
cultures.
I don't know whether Jon would even bother to address that ridiculous *
statement of yours, but suffice to say: he's got far more "worldly" *
experience than you are likely ever to have.
You seem to know him pretty well, for somebody who has probably never
met him in person and relies on his online persona. From his
incessant postings 24/7 he might be a real intolerable geek in the
flesh. His wife would know, not you.
>
Where I'm posting from, acting honest all the time is the
sign of an idiot or child, who typically are said to 'speak the
truth' (to their detriment).
Where you're posting from? *And where would that be? *Federal prison?*A *
halfway-house for feral children? *A terrorist training camp? *Because it *
sure isn't any place that has any notion of civilized behavior.
Your IP address suggests you're posting from Greece, but none of the Greek *
people I've met over the years have exhibited the kind of sociopathy, *
self-aggrandizement, egomania, and blissful ignorance that you do here. *
Well you should get out more. "None"? C'mon. All of human activity
is scaled; there are no 'good guys' and 'bad guys' in races, unless
you are a racist. You racist Pete?
Unless you're actually in one of the aforementioned facilities, or *
something like them, there is no way that your behavior is considered *
acceptable or normal, even by those around you.
It's perfectly normal, even respectable, in unmoderated Usenet groups.
>
[...]
If I never hear from you again Jon, it's not a great loss.
Just .killfile me and be done with it.
Frankly, it is beyond me why anyone has been willing to continue *
responding to you as long as they have. *You demonstrated a long time ago *
your inability to understand the limitations of your understanding, never*
mind to be able to learn anything new that would help that understanding,*
and your vast capacity for self-delusion and argumentativeness based on *
same.
No, I post good stuff. You by contrast talk down to people and drive
them away. I notice besides the 'regulars' who largely talk to each
other about trivial stuff, the only people who post here are
programmers who temporarily run into a bug they can't fix--and this
forum becomes a resource of last resort. In a day or two, often the
OP find a solution to their problem, with no help from anybody here,
and post their solution. There's no glory in fixing bugs for
anonymous strangers. By contrast, I provide real value--not only
asking the important questions, but often providing solutions to my
own questions for future generations. While I appreciate your input
(you seem to know a tad more about C# than I do), if you choose to
debug other's code rather than help me, that's your choice, and this
forum will simply degenerate further into a place to get bug fixes
(aside from the advert spam for selling shoes, designer clothes, etc,
which strangely this newsgroup is thankfully so far free of).
>
Others have been very patient with you, trying to help guide you to an *
understanding of the technical issues you get wrong time and time again, *
but you're obviously immune to that.
No, I've made good progress in understanding C#, thanks to my books,
online help, and even a few people here. I figure I knew 60% of C#
before I posted here, and now I know 80%, a few months later. The
remainder is always more difficult, a sort of asymptotic curve, but
you get most utility from the first 80% and less from the remaining
20% (the 80/20 rule), with 100% taking a lifetime to achieve and often
not worth the effort.
>
Jon and Marc have _both_ been very patient with you, trying to take your *
posts seriously and answering them in kind. *You have no appreciation for *
that, and it's pretty clear you've worn out your welcome. *
No I doubt it. My welcome is still warm. If it gets too cold, I can
always change monikers, but I'm too lazy to do that.
As you know, *
you exhausted my patience with you long ago, as I have very little of it *
to start with when it comes to dealing with fools.
Ah, I see. You suffer no fools gladly, like Great Men throughout the
ages (snicker, snicker...what a fool).
>*Jon's and Marc's *
patience and maturity exceeds my own, but even they have their limits and*
they've been in this muck you've been throwing about for a long time *
already.
So you admit to being immature? Noted.
>
I seriously doubt that Marc is going to be investing much more effort in *
responding to you either.
Why, did you send him an email in private asking him to boycott me?
You'd make a mean maven in a coffee klatch, you hostess with the
mostest.
>
It's unfortunate that you've now managed to sucker Göran, Arne, and Jeroen *
(to name a few). *My recollection is that they haven't been as involvedin *
threads with you in the past, and so they may not be so close to *
exhausting their patience. *It's my hope that they'll see what's going on *
and not wait until they're fed up to just stop bothering with you.
No, PT Barnum said there's a sucker born every minute. And a Good
Samaritan. Plus they might be learning as much teaching newbies like
me as I am learning from them. Something about the teacher learning
from teaching comes to mind.
>
Even in rejecting you, Jon's showed more tolerance than I would. *He *
clearly is open to resuming discussion with you if and when you start *
behaving yourself.
"Clearly"? How do you know so much? You sure you're not Jon posting
with another name? What a rhetorical fool you are.
>
I'll go one further: I believe this newsgroup will be best served if no *
one ever responds to any post you make ever again. *
Good. Killfile me and good riddance (for the both of us). Your
replies largely are worthless most of the time anyway.
Even if you make a *
post now and again that is civil and sensible, I do not believe you are *
capable of reform and it's clear you will continue to willfully be *
disruptive and dishonest. *We just don't need that kind of behavior around *
here. *Nothing short of an unequivocable, contrite and sincere apology for *
your behavior and a promise to never again act that way would justify any*
response from anyone here.
OK, OK. "I'm sorry, sincerely, and contritely". Good enuf? Nuff
said.
RL
