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when sharpdevelop will be availible for linux?

hello!

i have read somewhere, that the fact, that mono doesn't implement 100%
of windows.forms, is the reason, that sharpdevelop doesn't run with
mono (under linux).

this site, http://www.mono-project.com/WinForms_CodeOwners however,
tells me, that windows.forms (.net 1.1) under mono
is nearly complete.

furthermore, these sites:
http://mono.ximian.com/class-status/...ows.Forms.html
http://mono.ximian.com/class-status/...ows.Forms.html
display the 99%-availability of .net-1.1-windows.forms
and 97%-availability of .net-2.0-windows.forms in mono.

so, what's the problem?
why no mono-ports of sharp-develop?

is there information (either from the side of the developers
of mono, or sharpdevelop) about planned port?

thanks in advice!

comment: i just can't work with monodevelop! there are also
no serious plugins, neither for eclipse, nor for kdevelop.
i'm very disappointed :'(

Jul 9 '07 #1
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li********@yandex.ru wrote:
hello!

i have read somewhere, that the fact, that mono doesn't implement 100%
of windows.forms, is the reason, that sharpdevelop doesn't run with
mono (under linux).

this site, http://www.mono-project.com/WinForms_CodeOwners however,
tells me, that windows.forms (.net 1.1) under mono
is nearly complete.

furthermore, these sites:
<snip>
display the 99%-availability of .net-1.1-windows.forms
and 97%-availability of .net-2.0-windows.forms in mono.

so, what's the problem?
why no mono-ports of sharp-develop?

is there information (either from the side of the developers
of mono, or sharpdevelop) about planned port?

thanks in advice!

comment: i just can't work with monodevelop! there are also
no serious plugins, neither for eclipse, nor for kdevelop.
i'm very disappointed :'(
Hi,

The latest Monodevelop isn't too bad. And for the small tasks, I just use
nano, and a console (I've written a syntax highlighting script for C#, for
use with nano, if you're interested).

The thing I miss most about VS .NET is simply IntelliSense. Also, the C#
plugin for Eclipse totally sucks.

Which distro are you using, and what version of Mono do you have installed.
Also, what's the last version of Monodevelop you used?

--
Tom Spink
University of Edinburgh
Jul 9 '07 #2
On Jul 9, 8:53 pm, Tom Spink <tsp...@gmail.comwrote:

....
Hi,

The latest Monodevelop isn't too bad. And for the small tasks, I just use
nano, and a console (I've written a syntax highlighting script for C#, for
use with nano, if you're interested).
c#'s syntax highlighting is very important, but it's the last thing i
miss ;)
i have it with kwrite, kate, even mc, and it looks great in all of
them.
The thing I miss most about VS .NET is simply IntelliSense. Also, the C#
plugin for Eclipse totally sucks.
c# is eventually planned for kdevelop 4. but it is not there yet :(
Which distro are you using, and what version of Mono do you have installed.
Also, what's the last version of Monodevelop you used?
i have opensuse 10.2 with the newest mono 1.2.4 and monodevelop 0.14.

in monodevelop i miss refactoring, and lots of other advanced things i
have
with eclipse+java. (but i don't like java, so i'm coding in c# a lot)
and: monodevelop crashes sometimes.
Tom Spink
University of Edinburgh

Jul 9 '07 #3
li********@yandex.ru wrote:
On Jul 9, 8:53 pm, Tom Spink <tsp...@gmail.comwrote:

...
>Hi,

The latest Monodevelop isn't too bad. And for the small tasks, I just
use nano, and a console (I've written a syntax highlighting script for
C#, for use with nano, if you're interested).

c#'s syntax highlighting is very important, but it's the last thing i
miss ;)
i have it with kwrite, kate, even mc, and it looks great in all of
them.
>The thing I miss most about VS .NET is simply IntelliSense. Also, the C#
plugin for Eclipse totally sucks.

c# is eventually planned for kdevelop 4. but it is not there yet :(
>Which distro are you using, and what version of Mono do you have
installed. Also, what's the last version of Monodevelop you used?

i have opensuse 10.2 with the newest mono 1.2.4 and monodevelop 0.14.

in monodevelop i miss refactoring, and lots of other advanced things i
have
with eclipse+java. (but i don't like java, so i'm coding in c# a lot)
and: monodevelop crashes sometimes.
>Tom Spink
University of Edinburgh
Hi,
c#'s syntax highlighting is very important, but it's the last thing i
miss ;)
I can't do without syntax highlighting.
i have it with kwrite, kate, even mc, and it looks great in all of
them.
Out of the graphical editors, I'd prefer Kate.
c# is eventually planned for kdevelop 4. but it is not there yet :(
I didn't know that, but I've always found KDevelop pretty bloated. I mostly
code in C these days (I'm a kernel hacker), and the Eclipse plugin for C
actually rocks.
i have opensuse 10.2 with the newest mono 1.2.4 and monodevelop 0.14.
Nice. Debian Lenny (custom kernel), with Mono 1.2.4 and MonoDevelop 0.14.
and: monodevelop crashes sometimes.
Tell me about it! I was using the GTK# form designer, and *poof* it was
gone.

--
Tom Spink
University of Edinburgh
Jul 9 '07 #4
hi!

i've read about MoMA by accident. it's a migration analyzer.
it reports mono-dependent statistics about .net-binaries like:
- how many native calls (p-invokes?)
- how many .net-calls, marked as "not implemented" or "todo" in
mono.

i found out: sharpdevelop has dozens of p-invokes calls!!!
so, even if mono matches 100% of the official .net-library some time,
it will not be possible to run sharpdevelop with mono, because of
those p-invokes!

that means: the sharpdevelop guys should switch their brains ON, and
get rid of those p-invokes ;)

p-invokes: read "win32api": read "greatest sh** on earth"...

what do you think about it?

Jul 31 '07 #5

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