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Frames vs Table layout

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Hi all

I am writing program/framework to server a web site dynamically based
on stored web page data with C#, .net1.1

What is the preferred means of controlling page layout, frames or
table(s) ?

Benefits or problems related to using one or the other ?

Thanks

Jeff
Feb 16 '07 #1
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Jeff User wrote:
Hi all

I am writing program/framework to server a web site dynamically based
on stored web page data with C#, .net1.1

What is the preferred means of controlling page layout, frames or
table(s) ?

Benefits or problems related to using one or the other ?

Thanks

Jeff
Neither.

Frames are considered outdated. There are a lot of tools nowadays to
easily create flat pages that work the same as framed pages, or even better.

Using tables for layout is even more outdated. It was revolutionary for
web design at the time when there was no real tools for web layout, but
that was ten years ago. Today you can use tools for layout that actually
are intended for layout, and thus works far better.

--
Göran Andersson
_____
http://www.guffa.com
Feb 16 '07 #2

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I disagree.

nothing wrong with tables, unnecessary change is not sexy; it is
unnecessary

and get ready for visual fred, the return.. it should be coming
soon!!!!
yay; now you can taste your own medicine

On Feb 15, 7:58 pm, Göran Andersson <g...@guffa.comwrote:
Jeff User wrote:
Hi all
I am writing program/framework to server a web site dynamically based
on stored web page data with C#, .net1.1
What is the preferred means of controlling page layout, frames or
table(s) ?
Benefits or problems related to using one or the other ?
Thanks
Jeff

Neither.

Frames are considered outdated. There are a lot of tools nowadays to
easily create flat pages that work the same as framed pages, or even better.

Using tables for layout is even more outdated. It was revolutionary for
web design at the time when there was no real tools for web layout, but
that was ten years ago. Today you can use tools for layout that actually
are intended for layout, and thus works far better.

--
Göran Andersson
_____http://www.guffa.com

Feb 16 '07 #3

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If nothing even needs to change, why do you do layout in web pages at
all? It worked just fine before.

pf******@hotmail.com wrote:
I disagree.

nothing wrong with tables, unnecessary change is not sexy; it is
unnecessary

and get ready for visual fred, the return.. it should be coming
soon!!!!
yay; now you can taste your own medicine

On Feb 15, 7:58 pm, Göran Andersson <g...@guffa.comwrote:
>Jeff User wrote:
>>Hi all
I am writing program/framework to server a web site dynamically based
on stored web page data with C#, .net1.1
What is the preferred means of controlling page layout, frames or
table(s) ?
Benefits or problems related to using one or the other ?
Thanks
Jeff
Neither.

Frames are considered outdated. There are a lot of tools nowadays to
easily create flat pages that work the same as framed pages, or even better.

Using tables for layout is even more outdated. It was revolutionary for
web design at the time when there was no real tools for web layout, but
that was ten years ago. Today you can use tools for layout that actually
are intended for layout, and thus works far better.

--
Göran Andersson
_____http://www.guffa.com


--
Göran Andersson
_____
http://www.guffa.com
Feb 16 '07 #4

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Arguing that components are "outdated" is meaningless. Components are tools,
not fashion. Frames are not "outdated." They simply present certain types of
problems with server Session and with certain types of bots and web
crawlers. As such, they are generally not as useful as the other existing
alternatives.

As for tables, they are not "outdated" either. Tables were developed prior
to CSS, for the purpose of layout out tabular data. Before CSS, they were
also useful for general layout purposes, but with a price. CSS eliminates
the need for using tables for layout, as well as the need for most
attributes, making layout a much simpler task, and making it easier to
change layout on any scale you want. However, tables are still great for
displaying tabular data, and they can also be styled. Using tables for
laying out an entire page is not a good idea, as they do not allow the
freedom to rearrange page elements that other elements such as divs afford,
using CSS.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Software Composer
http://unclechutney.blogspot.com

The shortest distance between 2 points is a curve.

<pf******@hotmail.comwrote in message
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I disagree.

nothing wrong with tables, unnecessary change is not sexy; it is
unnecessary

and get ready for visual fred, the return.. it should be coming
soon!!!!
yay; now you can taste your own medicine

On Feb 15, 7:58 pm, Göran Andersson <g...@guffa.comwrote:
Jeff User wrote:
Hi all
I am writing program/framework to server a web site dynamically based
on stored web page data with C#, .net1.1
What is the preferred means of controlling page layout, frames or
table(s) ?
Benefits or problems related to using one or the other ?
Thanks
Jeff

Neither.

Frames are considered outdated. There are a lot of tools nowadays to
easily create flat pages that work the same as framed pages, or even
better.

Using tables for layout is even more outdated. It was revolutionary for
web design at the time when there was no real tools for web layout, but
that was ten years ago. Today you can use tools for layout that actually
are intended for layout, and thus works far better.

--
Göran Andersson
_____http://www.guffa.com


Feb 16 '07 #5

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Thanks all

Good discussion.

Guess I need a good lesson on CSS.

Jeff

On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:48:13 -0500, Jeff User <je*****@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>Hi all

I am writing program/framework to server a web site dynamically based
on stored web page data with C#, .net1.1

What is the preferred means of controlling page layout, frames or
table(s) ?

Benefits or problems related to using one or the other ?

Thanks

Jeff
Feb 16 '07 #6

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