C# programmer with XML experience needed in San Francisco

[Jim]

We are looking for a .Net programmer with experience
in C# version 2.0 (2005) for a temporary assignment
in the San Francisco SOMA district.

The idea candidate would have experience in

- Developing User Interfaces
- HTML
- JavaScript
- OOP Concepts
- MCML (Microsoft Media Center Markup Language)
and should be proficient in processing
- XML
- XSLT
- SOAP
- UML

Nice to have but not absolutely necessary:

Microsoft Vista OS

Please reply to

j.*******@cross-comp.com

Principals only, please!

[Scott M.]

Maybe you should try a job posting board (which this is not)?
"Jim" <ji*@nospam.plswrote in message
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We are looking for a .Net programmer with experience
in C# version 2.0 (2005) for a temporary assignment
in the San Francisco SOMA district.

The idea candidate would have experience in

- Developing User Interfaces
- HTML
- JavaScript
- OOP Concepts
- MCML (Microsoft Media Center Markup Language)
and should be proficient in processing
- XML
- XSLT
- SOAP
- UML

Nice to have but not absolutely necessary:

Microsoft Vista OS

Please reply to

j.*******@cross-comp.com

Principals only, please!

[PS]

"Jim" <ji*@nospam.plswrote in message
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We are looking for a .Net programmer with experience
in C# version 2.0 (2005) for a temporary assignment
in the San Francisco SOMA district.

Thanks for the posting. I hope you get lots of responses from smart
individuals like myself.

Is this job in San Francisco by the way?

The idea candidate would have experience in

Wow, "candidate", sounds exciting like I am running for the senate

- Developing User Interfaces
- HTML
- JavaScript
- OOP Concepts

My fellow co-workers often look at my code and say oops! Does that count?

- MCML (Microsoft Media Center Markup Language)

wouldn't that me MMCML (are you testing me?)

and should be proficient in processing
- XML
- XSLT
- SOAP

So you want me to do the processing? I would have thought the computer would
be better at doing this.

Also regarding the SOAP thing, I'm not really into showering while I am at
work. Sorry!

- UML

Nice to have but not absolutely necessary:
Microsoft Vista OS

I know everything about the RTM version of Vista. Is the job mine?

Please reply to
j.*******@cross-comp.com

I not sure how to use my email program. I'll have to ask my kid to do this.

Principals only, please!

Damn, now you tell me I have to have experience in running a school !!!

[Scott M.]

Well, clearly the OP isn't bright enough to know that if he posts his real
email address here, the SpamBots will be all over him. I guess he really
does need some help.
"PS" <ec***********@hotmail.comwrote in message
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"Jim" <ji*@nospam.plswrote in message
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>We are looking for a .Net programmer with experience
in C# version 2.0 (2005) for a temporary assignment
in the San Francisco SOMA district.

Thanks for the posting. I hope you get lots of responses from smart
individuals like myself.

Is this job in San Francisco by the way?

>The idea candidate would have experience in

Wow, "candidate", sounds exciting like I am running for the senate

>- Developing User Interfaces
- HTML
- JavaScript
- OOP Concepts

My fellow co-workers often look at my code and say oops! Does that count?

>- MCML (Microsoft Media Center Markup Language)

wouldn't that me MMCML (are you testing me?)

>and should be proficient in processing
- XML
- XSLT
- SOAP

So you want me to do the processing? I would have thought the computer
would be better at doing this.

Also regarding the SOAP thing, I'm not really into showering while I am at
work. Sorry!

>- UML

Nice to have but not absolutely necessary:
Microsoft Vista OS

I know everything about the RTM version of Vista. Is the job mine?

>Please reply to
j.*******@cross-comp.com

I not sure how to use my email program. I'll have to ask my kid to do
this.

>Principals only, please!

Damn, now you tell me I have to have experience in running a school !!!

[PS]

"Scott M." <No****@NoSpam.comwrote in message
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Well, clearly the OP isn't bright enough to know that if he posts his real
email address here, the SpamBots will be all over him. I guess he really
does need some help.

And even if he had hidden his email address I would have cleaned it up in my
reply.

Regards,

PS

>

"PS" <ec***********@hotmail.comwrote in message
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>"Jim" <ji*@nospam.plswrote in message
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>>We are looking for a .Net programmer with experience
in C# version 2.0 (2005) for a temporary assignment
in the San Francisco SOMA district.

Thanks for the posting. I hope you get lots of responses from smart
individuals like myself.

Is this job in San Francisco by the way?

>>The idea candidate would have experience in

Wow, "candidate", sounds exciting like I am running for the senate

>>- Developing User Interfaces
- HTML
- JavaScript
- OOP Concepts

My fellow co-workers often look at my code and say oops! Does that count?

>>- MCML (Microsoft Media Center Markup Language)

wouldn't that me MMCML (are you testing me?)

>>and should be proficient in processing
- XML
- XSLT
- SOAP

So you want me to do the processing? I would have thought the computer
would be better at doing this.

Also regarding the SOAP thing, I'm not really into showering while I am
at work. Sorry!

>>- UML

Nice to have but not absolutely necessary:
Microsoft Vista OS

I know everything about the RTM version of Vista. Is the job mine?

>>Please reply to
j.*******@cross-comp.com

I not sure how to use my email program. I'll have to ask my kid to do
this.

>>Principals only, please!

Damn, now you tell me I have to have experience in running a school !!!

[Scott M.]

LOL

"PS" <ec***********@hotmail.comwrote in message
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>
"Scott M." <No****@NoSpam.comwrote in message
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>Well, clearly the OP isn't bright enough to know that if he posts his
real email address here, the SpamBots will be all over him. I guess he
really does need some help.

And even if he had hidden his email address I would have cleaned it up in
my reply.

Regards,

PS

>>

"PS" <ec***********@hotmail.comwrote in message
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>>"Jim" <ji*@nospam.plswrote in message
news:RE*****************@newssvr13.news.prodigy. com...
We are looking for a .Net programmer with experience
in C# version 2.0 (2005) for a temporary assignment
in the San Francisco SOMA district.

Thanks for the posting. I hope you get lots of responses from smart
individuals like myself.

Is this job in San Francisco by the way?

The idea candidate would have experience in
Wow, "candidate", sounds exciting like I am running for the senate

- Developing User Interfaces
- HTML
- JavaScript
- OOP Concepts
My fellow co-workers often look at my code and say oops! Does that
count?

- MCML (Microsoft Media Center Markup Language)
wouldn't that me MMCML (are you testing me?)

and should be proficient in processing
- XML
- XSLT
- SOAP

So you want me to do the processing? I would have thought the computer
would be better at doing this.

Also regarding the SOAP thing, I'm not really into showering while I am
at work. Sorry!

- UML

Nice to have but not absolutely necessary:
Microsoft Vista OS

I know everything about the RTM version of Vista. Is the job mine?

Please reply to
j.*******@cross-comp.com

I not sure how to use my email program. I'll have to ask my kid to do
this.

Principals only, please!
Damn, now you tell me I have to have experience in running a school !!!

[Mark Wilden]

"Scott M." <No****@NoSpam.comwrote in message
news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

Well, clearly the OP isn't bright enough to know that if he posts his real
email address here, the SpamBots will be all over him. I guess he really
does need some help.

Just as another data point, I've been posting my email addresses in
newsgroup messages for a couple of decades without major problems.

///ark

[Scott M.]

Well, spam hasn't been a major problem up until about 6 or 7 years ago. And
if you are running spam blocking or junk mail filters, those messages may
not have crossed your eyeballs directly. Also, your email address could
quite possibly be used as a forgery in sending spam to others without your
knowledge.
"Mark Wilden" <mw*****@communitymtm.comwrote in message
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"Scott M." <No****@NoSpam.comwrote in message
news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>Well, clearly the OP isn't bright enough to know that if he posts his
real email address here, the SpamBots will be all over him. I guess he
really does need some help.

Just as another data point, I've been posting my email addresses in
newsgroup messages for a couple of decades without major problems.

///ark

[Mark Wilden]

"Scott M." <No****@NoSpam.comwrote in message
news:eK**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

Well, spam hasn't been a major problem up until about 6 or 7 years ago.
And if you are running spam blocking or junk mail filters, those messages
may not have crossed your eyeballs directly.

That's my point. Who doesn't have such filters these days, either directly
or through their ISP?

Also, your email address could quite possibly be used as a forgery in
sending spam to others without your knowledge.

I don't see how much of a weapon that would be. Valid from-addresses are
easy to find.

///ark

[Scott M.]

"Mark Wilden" <mw*****@communitymtm.comwrote in message
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"Scott M." <No****@NoSpam.comwrote in message
news:eK**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>Well, spam hasn't been a major problem up until about 6 or 7 years ago.
And if you are running spam blocking or junk mail filters, those messages
may not have crossed your eyeballs directly.

That's my point. Who doesn't have such filters these days, either directly
or through their ISP?

Uh, can you say bandwith a spam-attacks?

>

>Also, your email address could quite possibly be used as a forgery in
sending spam to others without your knowledge.

I don't see how much of a weapon that would be. Valid from-addresses are
easy to find.

If I'm a spammer, I certainly wouldn't want to put my actual email address
in the From field, I'll just hijack yours!

>
///ark

[Amanda]

Mark Wilden wrote:

"Scott M." <No****@NoSpam.comwrote in message
news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

Well, clearly the OP isn't bright enough to know that if he posts his real
email address here, the SpamBots will be all over him. I guess he really
does need some help.

Just as another data point, I've been posting my email addresses in
newsgroup messages for a couple of decades without major problems.

What do you consider major? Every email adrewss I use in google ngs
get spmmed so much and in fact, from the beginning, I never bothered to
log in to those email accounts.
I know that there are some poeple who uses just one email address for
everything. Id there anythign specil thay did to their account to be
able to handle such massive spams?

>
///ark

[Jon Skeet [C# MVP]]

Amanda <am**********@yahoo.comwrote:

Mark Wilden wrote:

"Scott M." <No****@NoSpam.comwrote in message
news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

Well, clearly the OP isn't bright enough to know that if he posts his real
email address here, the SpamBots will be all over him. I guess he really
does need some help.

Just as another data point, I've been posting my email addresses in
newsgroup messages for a couple of decades without major problems.

What do you consider major? Every email adrewss I use in google ngs
get spmmed so much and in fact, from the beginning, I never bothered to
log in to those email accounts.
I know that there are some poeple who uses just one email address for
everything. Id there anythign specil thay did to their account to be
able to handle such massive spams?

I get about 500 spams a day. Thunderbird's spam filter catches most of
those, and it doesn't take me long to delete the rest. The thing is,
I'd much rather be easily accessible to those who want to get in touch
with me legitimately and suffer the pain of spam than make it harder
for people to mail me and get slightly less spam. (Once you've used
your real address in a few places where you have to, you're pretty much
guaranteed to get spam.)

Maybe that means Scott considers me not bright enough to help him any
more?

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If replying to the group, please do not mail me too

[Scott M.]

No, it just means that I hate it when people use the NG's as job posting
boards and that an extra 500 spams a day is what I hope the OP gets.
"Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" <sk***@pobox.comwrote in message
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Amanda <am**********@yahoo.comwrote:

>Mark Wilden wrote:

"Scott M." <No****@NoSpam.comwrote in message
news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Well, clearly the OP isn't bright enough to know that if he posts his
real
email address here, the SpamBots will be all over him. I guess he
really
does need some help.

Just as another data point, I've been posting my email addresses in
newsgroup messages for a couple of decades without major problems.

What do you consider major? Every email adrewss I use in google ngs
get spmmed so much and in fact, from the beginning, I never bothered to
log in to those email accounts.
I know that there are some poeple who uses just one email address for
everything. Id there anythign specil thay did to their account to be
able to handle such massive spams?

I get about 500 spams a day. Thunderbird's spam filter catches most of
those, and it doesn't take me long to delete the rest. The thing is,
I'd much rather be easily accessible to those who want to get in touch
with me legitimately and suffer the pain of spam than make it harder
for people to mail me and get slightly less spam. (Once you've used
your real address in a few places where you have to, you're pretty much
guaranteed to get spam.)

Maybe that means Scott considers me not bright enough to help him any
more?

--
Jon Skeet - <sk***@pobox.com>
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/jon.skeet
If replying to the group, please do not mail me too

[Mark Wilden]

"Scott M." <No****@NoSpam.comwrote in message
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>>
That's my point. Who doesn't have such filters these days, either
directly or through their ISP?

Uh, can you say bandwith a spam-attacks?

I can "say" it, but I don't really understand what you're talking about.
And, as I said, I don't have trouble.

If I'm a spammer, I certainly wouldn't want to put my actual email address
in the From field, I'll just hijack yours!

Or hijack any of a million others that are available.

///ark

[Mark Wilden]

"Amanda" <am**********@yahoo.comwrote in message
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>
What do you consider major? Every email adrewss I use in google ngs
get spmmed so much and in fact, from the beginning, I never bothered to
log in to those email accounts.

I just use an ISP with good spam filters, I guess.

///ark

[Mark Wilden]

"Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" <sk***@pobox.comwrote in message
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The thing is,
I'd much rather be easily accessible to those who want to get in touch
with me legitimately and suffer the pain of spam than make it harder
for people to mail me and get slightly less spam.

Exactly. I consider it slightly rude not to use a legitimate address on
newsgroups, actually. Why should people have to jump through hoops to get in
touch with me?

///ark

[Scott M.]

>>That's my point. Who doesn't have such filters these days, either

>>directly or through their ISP?

Uh, can you say bandwith a spam-attacks?

I can "say" it, but I don't really understand what you're talking about.

Well, I guess that kind of makes my point. There are many negative effects
of spam that many people don't consider. Just because it doesn't make it to
your mailbox, doesn't mean it's not a problem.

And, as I said, I don't have trouble.

>If I'm a spammer, I certainly wouldn't want to put my actual email
address in the From field, I'll just hijack yours!

Or hijack any of a million others that are available.

And, where would I get my hands on some of those? Maybe look for them in
public newsgroups using a spambot?

[Scott M.]

"Mark Wilden" <mw*****@communitymtm.comwrote in message
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"Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" <sk***@pobox.comwrote in message
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>The thing is,
I'd much rather be easily accessible to those who want to get in touch
with me legitimately and suffer the pain of spam than make it harder
for people to mail me and get slightly less spam.

Exactly. I consider it slightly rude not to use a legitimate address on
newsgroups, actually.

Then perhaps you could explain why it is standard practice for Microsoft to
require it's MSDN subscribers to set up email aliases for posting to these
newsgroups?

>Why should people have to jump through hoops to get in touch with me?

There are no hoops to jump though. You can simply post your address like
this: [e-mail] or even me @ aol.com.

>
///ark

[Scott M.]

"Mark Wilden" <mw*****@communitymtm.comwrote in message
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"Amanda" <am**********@yahoo.comwrote in message
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>>
What do you consider major? Every email adrewss I use in google ngs
get spmmed so much and in fact, from the beginning, I never bothered to
log in to those email accounts.

I just use an ISP with good spam filters, I guess.

And, as I've said previously, you don't understand the full implications of
posting a real email address regardless of whether spam reaches your in box.

[Jon Skeet [C# MVP]]

Scott M. <No****@NoSpam.comwrote:

Why should people have to jump through hoops to get in touch with me?

There are no hoops to jump though. You can simply post your address like
this: [e-mail] or even me @ aol.com.

In what way is having to alter the email address not a hoop to jump
through? It's not a very big one, but you first have to notice that
it's there... these days it's more common, so I guess if I were mailing
someone from the newsgroup I'd bother to check, but back when real mail
addresses were seen more commonly, I'd frequently find that I'd replied
to someone by mail and that it had bounced. Sometimes I'd bother to
correct it and remail them, but sometimes I wouldn't - so communication
was diminished.

--
Jon Skeet - <sk***@pobox.com>
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/jon.skeet
If replying to the group, please do not mail me too

[Scott M.]

Getting out of bed in the morning is something I have to do before I can go
to work. It's just something that you do. I wouldn't consider it jumping
through a hoop (well, sometimes it is depending on the night before).

:)

"Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" <sk***@pobox.comwrote in message
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Scott M. <No****@NoSpam.comwrote:

>Why should people have to jump through hoops to get in touch with me?

There are no hoops to jump though. You can simply post your address like
this: [e-mail] or even me @ aol.com.

In what way is having to alter the email address not a hoop to jump
through? It's not a very big one, but you first have to notice that
it's there... these days it's more common, so I guess if I were mailing
someone from the newsgroup I'd bother to check, but back when real mail
addresses were seen more commonly, I'd frequently find that I'd replied
to someone by mail and that it had bounced. Sometimes I'd bother to
correct it and remail them, but sometimes I wouldn't - so communication
was diminished.

--
Jon Skeet - <sk***@pobox.com>
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/jon.skeet
If replying to the group, please do not mail me too

[mark]

Scott M. wrote:

"Mark Wilden" <mw*****@communitymtm.comwrote in message

I just use an ISP with good spam filters, I guess.

And, as I've said previously

Why repeat what you've said previously?

>you don't understand the full implications of
posting a real email address regardless of whether spam reaches your in box.

Why make an assertion that someone doesn't understand something instead
of elucidating what you mean?

///ark

[Mark Wilden]

"Scott M." <No****@NoSpam.comwrote in message
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>
Well, I guess that kind of makes my point. There are many negative
effects of spam that many people don't consider. Just because it doesn't
make it to your mailbox, doesn't mean it's not a problem.

It's not a problem to me, and you haven't presented (IMO) an argument that I
should worry about the potential problem it presents to others.

After all, if spammers were using my email, wouldn't I be getting messages
from their victims? Or their victims' ISPs? (I do scan my junk every now and
then.)

And, where would I get my hands on some of those? Maybe look for them in
public newsgroups using a spambot?

Since you only need one valid email address to make it through gateways that
check for such things, that sounds like overkill to me. Why not just use
su*****@microsoft.com or any of a million other such addresses found on
websites?