C#/VS 2005 availability in Europe

[robertino]

Hi all,

Can somebody explain to me why VS 2005 has been available in the US for
a few weeks now, but seems to be nowhere available in Europe yet (based
on amazon.co.uk / amazon.de listings) ?

Is it to give the US developers a jump-start on us Olde Worlde
code-serfs out here in the sticks? Or do export restrictions apply?
Either way, it's a b*mmer for those of us waiting to get our hands on
the goodies...

Rob

[Jon Skeet [C# MVP]]

robertino wrote:

Can somebody explain to me why VS 2005 has been available in the US for
a few weeks now, but seems to be nowhere available in Europe yet (based
on amazon.co.uk / amazon.de listings) ?

Is it to give the US developers a jump-start on us Olde Worlde
code-serfs out here in the sticks? Or do export restrictions apply?
Either way, it's a b*mmer for those of us waiting to get our hands on
the goodies...

I don't know about physical box copies, but MSDN subscribers are able
to download and burn images within Europe. I suspect that physical box
copies provide relatively small sales compared with MSDN subscriptions.

Jon

[robertino]

Duuhhh, yep! that would explain some of it i guess. But you'd think
amazon.eu would at least offer the thing, right?

Looks like I'm going to have to convince my IT superiors to shell out
for a download which is something they're not too keen on...

Rob

Jon Skeet [C# MVP] wrote:

robertino wrote:

Can somebody explain to me why VS 2005 has been available in the US for
a few weeks now, but seems to be nowhere available in Europe yet (based
on amazon.co.uk / amazon.de listings) ?

Is it to give the US developers a jump-start on us Olde Worlde
code-serfs out here in the sticks? Or do export restrictions apply?
Either way, it's a b*mmer for those of us waiting to get our hands on
the goodies...

I don't know about physical box copies, but MSDN subscribers are able
to download and burn images within Europe. I suspect that physical box
copies provide relatively small sales compared with MSDN subscriptions.

Jon

[Michael S]

As we have MSDN subscription I simply downloaded it from a p2p-network. MSDN
download is just too slow =)

Did the same with a new Delphi 7. I bought it via snailmail, but as the key
was printed on the receipt, I downloaded it and didn't even bother waiting
for the CDs. They are stored as backups. Don't think I even opened the
package.

- Michael S

"robertino" <rb*******@telair.com> wrote in message
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Duuhhh, yep! that would explain some of it i guess. But you'd think
amazon.eu would at least offer the thing, right?

Looks like I'm going to have to convince my IT superiors to shell out
for a download which is something they're not too keen on...

Rob

Jon Skeet [C# MVP] wrote:

robertino wrote:

> Can somebody explain to me why VS 2005 has been available in the US for
> a few weeks now, but seems to be nowhere available in Europe yet (based
> on amazon.co.uk / amazon.de listings) ?
>
> Is it to give the US developers a jump-start on us Olde Worlde
> code-serfs out here in the sticks? Or do export restrictions apply?
> Either way, it's a b*mmer for those of us waiting to get our hands on
> the goodies...

I don't know about physical box copies, but MSDN subscribers are able
to download and burn images within Europe. I suspect that physical box
copies provide relatively small sales compared with MSDN subscriptions.

Jon

[Søren Reinke]

"Michael S" <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

As we have MSDN subscription I simply downloaded it from a p2p-network.
MSDN download is just too slow =)
To slow ?

Hmm it took me around 30 min to get all 4 GB downloaded, i would not call
that slow :)

/Søren


Did the same with a new Delphi 7. I bought it via snailmail, but as the
key was printed on the receipt, I downloaded it and didn't even bother
waiting for the CDs. They are stored as backups. Don't think I even opened
the package.

- Michael S

"robertino" <rb*******@telair.com> wrote in message
news:11**********************@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...

Duuhhh, yep! that would explain some of it i guess. But you'd think
amazon.eu would at least offer the thing, right?

Looks like I'm going to have to convince my IT superiors to shell out
for a download which is something they're not too keen on...

Rob

Jon Skeet [C# MVP] wrote:

robertino wrote:
> Can somebody explain to me why VS 2005 has been available in the US
> for
> a few weeks now, but seems to be nowhere available in Europe yet
> (based
> on amazon.co.uk / amazon.de listings) ?
>
> Is it to give the US developers a jump-start on us Olde Worlde
> code-serfs out here in the sticks? Or do export restrictions apply?
> Either way, it's a b*mmer for those of us waiting to get our hands on
> the goodies...

I don't know about physical box copies, but MSDN subscribers are able
to download and burn images within Europe. I suspect that physical box
copies provide relatively small sales compared with MSDN subscriptions.

Jon

[Michael S]

From a Direct Connect hub I got it @ 3.4 mebisec. Not so slow either. Took
me longer to unrar the release =)

- Michael S

"Søren Reinke" <so***@reinke.fjern.dk> wrote in message
news:43***********************@dreader1.cybercity. dk...

"Michael S" <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

As we have MSDN subscription I simply downloaded it from a p2p-network.
MSDN download is just too slow =)

To slow ?

Hmm it took me around 30 min to get all 4 GB downloaded, i would not call
that slow :)

/Søren

Did the same with a new Delphi 7. I bought it via snailmail, but as the
key was printed on the receipt, I downloaded it and didn't even bother
waiting for the CDs. They are stored as backups. Don't think I even
opened the package.

- Michael S

"robertino" <rb*******@telair.com> wrote in message
news:11**********************@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...

Duuhhh, yep! that would explain some of it i guess. But you'd think
amazon.eu would at least offer the thing, right?

Looks like I'm going to have to convince my IT superiors to shell out
for a download which is something they're not too keen on...

Rob

Jon Skeet [C# MVP] wrote:
robertino wrote:
> Can somebody explain to me why VS 2005 has been available in the US
> for
> a few weeks now, but seems to be nowhere available in Europe yet
> (based
> on amazon.co.uk / amazon.de listings) ?
>
> Is it to give the US developers a jump-start on us Olde Worlde
> code-serfs out here in the sticks? Or do export restrictions apply?
> Either way, it's a b*mmer for those of us waiting to get our hands on
> the goodies...

I don't know about physical box copies, but MSDN subscribers are able
to download and burn images within Europe. I suspect that physical box
copies provide relatively small sales compared with MSDN subscriptions.

Jon