Developing with Web Services in Express editions - impossible??

[Danny Tuppeny]

Hi all,

I'm using Visual C# Express and Visual Web Developer Express. It just
occured to me, that there seems to be no way to develop a web service to be
consumed in VWD and use it in VC#, since the web service is run on a random
port etc.

Is this deliberate? An oversight? Any way around it? I develop on XP Home
(sorry, laptop came with it!) so I have no IIS to "deploy" the web service
to while developing, and I like being able to tinker with both at the same
time anyway, so I don't have to keep re-deploying the web service for every
change while developing.

Anyone else come across this problem?

Thanks,

[Lebesgue]

You will need an IIS server if you wish to host web applications.
Web Developer Express Edition makes working with IIS possible, just right
click the project and choose "Copy web site" - project will be deployed to
your web server. If you don't have an IIS, you can't deploy the web service,
of course. You can buy WinXP Professional upgrade edition which is cheaper
than new license or try to use
http://www.webthang.co.uk/tuts/tuts_...h/pippo_xp.asp to get it
running on XP Home - you would still need a Win2000 Professional or Server
license.

"Danny Tuppeny" <gr****@dannytuppeny.commmmmm> wrote in message
news:43***********************@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...

Hi all,

I'm using Visual C# Express and Visual Web Developer Express. It just
occured to me, that there seems to be no way to develop a web service to
be consumed in VWD and use it in VC#, since the web service is run on a
random port etc.

Is this deliberate? An oversight? Any way around it? I develop on XP Home
(sorry, laptop came with it!) so I have no IIS to "deploy" the web service
to while developing, and I like being able to tinker with both at the same
time anyway, so I don't have to keep re-deploying the web service for
every change while developing.

Anyone else come across this problem?

Thanks,

[Danny Tuppeny]

"Lebesgue" <no****@spam.jp> wrote in message
news:ec*************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

You will need an IIS server if you wish to host web applications.
Web Developer Express Edition makes working with IIS possible, just right
click the project and choose "Copy web site" - project will be deployed to
your web server. If you don't have an IIS, you can't deploy the web
service, of course. You can buy WinXP Professional upgrade edition which
is cheaper than new license or try to use
http://www.webthang.co.uk/tuts/tuts_...h/pippo_xp.asp to get it
running on XP Home - you would still need a Win2000 Professional or Server
license.

This seems expensive (and silly) for developing. Ultimately, the service
will be deployed to some paid hosting - but until it actually works, I want
to be able to develop it (both the service, and the callee) quickly. In
Visual Studio, I could make changes to both projects easily, and have the C#
app reference the web service where it's being developed. It seems silly
that the express editions would lack this ability. I believe the problem
would be solved by something as simple as, being able to set a static port
in VWD, or VC# and VWD being able to talk to each other, to exchange the
port, for developing :(

[Lebesgue]

It can't get simpler, check properties of the main node of your project ín
solution explorer - Set "Use dynamic port" to false and select port number.

"Danny Tuppeny" <gr****@dannytuppeny.commmmmm> wrote in message
news:43***********************@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...

"Lebesgue" <no****@spam.jp> wrote in message
news:ec*************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

You will need an IIS server if you wish to host web applications.
Web Developer Express Edition makes working with IIS possible, just right
click the project and choose "Copy web site" - project will be deployed
to your web server. If you don't have an IIS, you can't deploy the web
service, of course. You can buy WinXP Professional upgrade edition which
is cheaper than new license or try to use
http://www.webthang.co.uk/tuts/tuts_...h/pippo_xp.asp to get it
running on XP Home - you would still need a Win2000 Professional or
Server license.

This seems expensive (and silly) for developing. Ultimately, the service
will be deployed to some paid hosting - but until it actually works, I
want to be able to develop it (both the service, and the callee) quickly.
In Visual Studio, I could make changes to both projects easily, and have
the C# app reference the web service where it's being developed. It seems
silly that the express editions would lack this ability. I believe the
problem would be solved by something as simple as, being able to set a
static port in VWD, or VC# and VWD being able to talk to each other, to
exchange the port, for developing :(

[Danny Tuppeny]

"Lebesgue" <no****@spam.jp> wrote in message
news:u0**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

It can't get simpler, check properties of the main node of your project ín
solution explorer - Set "Use dynamic port" to false and select port
number.

*bangs head on keyboard*

I checked everywhere but there! Why isn't there an global option in Tools ->
Options? :(

[Danny Tuppeny]

"Lebesgue" <no****@spam.jp> wrote in message
news:u0**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

It can't get simpler, check properties of the main node of your project ín
solution explorer - Set "Use dynamic port" to false and select port
number.

Erm, now I look, I don't have that option!

The "Properties Page" option fires a dialog with References/Build/"Start
Options" pages, and none have anything to do with the port!

[Danny Tuppeny]

"Danny Tuppeny" <gr****@dannytuppeny.commmmmm> wrote in message
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"Lebesgue" <no****@spam.jp> wrote in message
news:u0**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

It can't get simpler, check properties of the main node of your project
ín solution explorer - Set "Use dynamic port" to false and select port
number.

Erm, now I look, I don't have that option!

The "Properties Page" option fires a dialog with References/Build/"Start
Options" pages, and none have anything to do with the port!

Duh!

There's no Properties option, just what I mentioned above. If I click it,
then bring the Properties Panel to the front (hidden behind soluction
explorer), it's in there.

Thanks! :)