C# 2005 not packaged without Visual Studio?

[RobKinney1]

Hello,

This is a stupid question. I cannot find any information if we can buy
Visual C# 2005 without purchasing the whole Visual Studio 2005... can you do
this like you can purchas C# 2003 by itself?

Visual studio costs like $800! And we have to buy 2 licenses or more for our
team here... we are a small company.

Thanks all for reading this.

Rob K

[Robert Jeppesen]

As always, the SDK is free.
For now, All of the express editions are free too.
You should look into the express editions, they are quite capable.
--
Robert Jeppesen
Durius
http://www.durius.com/

"RobKinney1" <Ro********@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A8**********************************@microsof t.com...

Hello,

This is a stupid question. I cannot find any information if we can buy
Visual C# 2005 without purchasing the whole Visual Studio 2005... can you
do
this like you can purchas C# 2003 by itself?

Visual studio costs like $800! And we have to buy 2 licenses or more for
our
team here... we are a small company.

Thanks all for reading this.

Rob K

[Bob Powell [MVP]]

You can download the 2.0 framework, which includes compilers, for free.

Alas this won't work with your 2003 IDE.
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"RobKinney1" <Ro********@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A8**********************************@microsof t.com...

Hello,

This is a stupid question. I cannot find any information if we can buy
Visual C# 2005 without purchasing the whole Visual Studio 2005... can you
do
this like you can purchas C# 2003 by itself?

Visual studio costs like $800! And we have to buy 2 licenses or more for
our
team here... we are a small company.

Thanks all for reading this.

Rob K

[RobKinney1]

Thank you for replying Robert.

I am using the Express edition for experimentation. But according to the
license, I don't think we can actually develop and release any software
through our company with it, can we? I will have to go read up on it again
tomorrow.

Rob K

"Robert Jeppesen durius (dot) com>" wrote:

As always, the SDK is free.
For now, All of the express editions are free too.
You should look into the express editions, they are quite capable.
--
Robert Jeppesen
Durius
http://www.durius.com/

"RobKinney1" <Ro********@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A8**********************************@microsof t.com...

Hello,

This is a stupid question. I cannot find any information if we can buy
Visual C# 2005 without purchasing the whole Visual Studio 2005... can you
do
this like you can purchas C# 2003 by itself?

Visual studio costs like $800! And we have to buy 2 licenses or more for
our
team here... we are a small company.

Thanks all for reading this.

Rob K

[clintonG]

Hello Rob. Check out your options with the Microsoft Partner Program,
specifically the Empower ISV Program. It may be well worth your while.
<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
"RobKinney1" <Ro********@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:38**********************************@microsof t.com...

Thank you for replying Robert.

I am using the Express edition for experimentation. But according to the
license, I don't think we can actually develop and release any software
through our company with it, can we? I will have to go read up on it
again
tomorrow.

Rob K

"Robert Jeppesen durius (dot) com>" wrote:

As always, the SDK is free.
For now, All of the express editions are free too.
You should look into the express editions, they are quite capable.
--
Robert Jeppesen
Durius
http://www.durius.com/

"RobKinney1" <Ro********@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A8**********************************@microsof t.com...

> Hello,
>
> This is a stupid question. I cannot find any information if we can buy
> Visual C# 2005 without purchasing the whole Visual Studio 2005... can
> you
> do
> this like you can purchas C# 2003 by itself?
>
> Visual studio costs like $800! And we have to buy 2 licenses or more
> for
> our
> team here... we are a small company.
>
> Thanks all for reading this.
>
> Rob K

[Lloyd Dupont]

> Thank you for replying Robert.

I am using the Express edition for experimentation. But according to the
license, I don't think we can actually develop and release any software
through our company with it, can we? I will have to go read up on it
again
tomorrow.

Express is free and completely yours.
You could do whatever you want with it, including writing commercial
software!
question #4:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/support/faq/

but it doesn't include set-up project, performance session, unit testing,
class designing, cross language debuging, etc....
I found all of that somewhat frustrating.

if you want the cheapest version with commercial grade quality, here you go
US$299
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/pr...d/default.aspx

[Robert Jeppesen]

To be honest, I wouldn't know.
I don't use it. And who in their right mind have ever read a software
license?

--
Robert Jeppesen
Durius
http://www.durius.com/

"RobKinney1" <Ro********@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:38**********************************@microsof t.com...

Thank you for replying Robert.

I am using the Express edition for experimentation. But according to the
license, I don't think we can actually develop and release any software
through our company with it, can we? I will have to go read up on it
again
tomorrow.

Rob K

"Robert Jeppesen durius (dot) com>" wrote:

As always, the SDK is free.
For now, All of the express editions are free too.
You should look into the express editions, they are quite capable.
--
Robert Jeppesen
Durius
http://www.durius.com/

"RobKinney1" <Ro********@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A8**********************************@microsof t.com...

> Hello,
>
> This is a stupid question. I cannot find any information if we can buy
> Visual C# 2005 without purchasing the whole Visual Studio 2005... can
> you
> do
> this like you can purchas C# 2003 by itself?
>
> Visual studio costs like $800! And we have to buy 2 licenses or more
> for
> our
> team here... we are a small company.
>
> Thanks all for reading this.
>
> Rob K

[Robert Jeppesen]

Still pretty cheap.

--
Robert Jeppesen
Durius
http://www.durius.com/

"Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message
news:OE**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...

Thank you for replying Robert.

I am using the Express edition for experimentation. But according to the
license, I don't think we can actually develop and release any software
through our company with it, can we? I will have to go read up on it
again
tomorrow.

Express is free and completely yours.
You could do whatever you want with it, including writing commercial
software!
question #4:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/support/faq/

but it doesn't include set-up project, performance session, unit testing,
class designing, cross language debuging, etc....
I found all of that somewhat frustrating.

if you want the cheapest version with commercial grade quality, here you
go US$299
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/pr...d/default.aspx

[Peter]

And if you have read the license how do you know what it means, unless you
have a law degree and good at interpreting the law?

"Robert Jeppesen durius (dot) com>" <robert<at> wrote in message
news:e7**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...

To be honest, I wouldn't know.
I don't use it. And who in their right mind have ever read a software
license?

--
Robert Jeppesen
Durius
http://www.durius.com/

"RobKinney1" <Ro********@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:38**********************************@microsof t.com...

Thank you for replying Robert.

I am using the Express edition for experimentation. But according to the
license, I don't think we can actually develop and release any software
through our company with it, can we? I will have to go read up on it
again
tomorrow.

Rob K

"Robert Jeppesen durius (dot) com>" wrote:

As always, the SDK is free.
For now, All of the express editions are free too.
You should look into the express editions, they are quite capable.
--
Robert Jeppesen
Durius
http://www.durius.com/

"RobKinney1" <Ro********@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A8**********************************@microsof t.com...
> Hello,
>
> This is a stupid question. I cannot find any information if we can
> buy
> Visual C# 2005 without purchasing the whole Visual Studio 2005... can
> you
> do
> this like you can purchas C# 2003 by itself?
>
> Visual studio costs like $800! And we have to buy 2 licenses or more
> for
> our
> team here... we are a small company.
>
> Thanks all for reading this.
>
> Rob K

[Robert Jeppesen]

My point exactly. "Scroll down all the way to imply that you've read and
understood the terms of agreement"
- Uh what was that?

--
Robert Jeppesen
Durius
http://www.durius.com/

"Peter" <pc*****@online.nospam> wrote in message
news:O6**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

And if you have read the license how do you know what it means, unless you
have a law degree and good at interpreting the law?

"Robert Jeppesen durius (dot) com>" <robert<at> wrote in message
news:e7**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...

To be honest, I wouldn't know.
I don't use it. And who in their right mind have ever read a software
license?

--
Robert Jeppesen
Durius
http://www.durius.com/

"RobKinney1" <Ro********@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:38**********************************@microsof t.com...

Thank you for replying Robert.

I am using the Express edition for experimentation. But according to
the
license, I don't think we can actually develop and release any software
through our company with it, can we? I will have to go read up on it
again
tomorrow.

Rob K

"Robert Jeppesen durius (dot) com>" wrote:
As always, the SDK is free.
For now, All of the express editions are free too.
You should look into the express editions, they are quite capable.
--
Robert Jeppesen
Durius
http://www.durius.com/

"RobKinney1" <Ro********@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A8**********************************@microsof t.com...
> Hello,
>
> This is a stupid question. I cannot find any information if we can
> buy
> Visual C# 2005 without purchasing the whole Visual Studio 2005... can
> you
> do
> this like you can purchas C# 2003 by itself?
>
> Visual studio costs like $800! And we have to buy 2 licenses or more
> for
> our
> team here... we are a small company.
>
> Thanks all for reading this.
>
> Rob K

[carion1]

There is a new competency for Custom development as well. If your team is 5
people or less you could license the entire team with Visual Studio 2005
Professional by just becoming a partner (1450 USD). If you prove the Custom
Development competency you receive Visual Studio 2005 Team Edition for
Software Developers.

https://partner.microsoft.com/US/com...tions/40020230

--

Derek Davis
dd******@gmail.com

"clintonG" <cs*********@REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

Hello Rob. Check out your options with the Microsoft Partner Program,
specifically the Empower ISV Program. It may be well worth your while.
<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
"RobKinney1" <Ro********@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:38**********************************@microsof t.com...

Thank you for replying Robert.

I am using the Express edition for experimentation. But according to the
license, I don't think we can actually develop and release any software
through our company with it, can we? I will have to go read up on it
again
tomorrow.

Rob K

"Robert Jeppesen durius (dot) com>" wrote:

As always, the SDK is free.
For now, All of the express editions are free too.
You should look into the express editions, they are quite capable.
--
Robert Jeppesen
Durius
http://www.durius.com/

"RobKinney1" <Ro********@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A8**********************************@microsof t.com...
> Hello,
>
> This is a stupid question. I cannot find any information if we can
> buy
> Visual C# 2005 without purchasing the whole Visual Studio 2005... can
> you
> do
> this like you can purchas C# 2003 by itself?
>
> Visual studio costs like $800! And we have to buy 2 licenses or more
> for
> our
> team here... we are a small company.
>
> Thanks all for reading this.
>
> Rob K

[RobKinney1]

Thank you all for helping out. It is very much appreciated!

Rob K

[clintonG]

Thanks for bringing that to our attention carion but the competency benefits
are for certified partners only. The Empower ISV Program is the road to
certification.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
"carion1" <dd******@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:u9****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

There is a new competency for Custom development as well. If your team is
5 people or less you could license the entire team with Visual Studio 2005
Professional by just becoming a partner (1450 USD). If you prove the
Custom Development competency you receive Visual Studio 2005 Team Edition
for Software Developers.

https://partner.microsoft.com/US/com...tions/40020230

--

Derek Davis
dd******@gmail.com

"clintonG" <cs*********@REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

Hello Rob. Check out your options with the Microsoft Partner Program,
specifically the Empower ISV Program. It may be well worth your while.
<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
"RobKinney1" <Ro********@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:38**********************************@microsof t.com...

Thank you for replying Robert.

I am using the Express edition for experimentation. But according to
the
license, I don't think we can actually develop and release any software
through our company with it, can we? I will have to go read up on it
again
tomorrow.

Rob K

"Robert Jeppesen durius (dot) com>" wrote:
As always, the SDK is free.
For now, All of the express editions are free too.
You should look into the express editions, they are quite capable.
--
Robert Jeppesen
Durius
http://www.durius.com/

"RobKinney1" <Ro********@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A8**********************************@microsof t.com...
> Hello,
>
> This is a stupid question. I cannot find any information if we can
> buy
> Visual C# 2005 without purchasing the whole Visual Studio 2005... can
> you
> do
> this like you can purchas C# 2003 by itself?
>
> Visual studio costs like $800! And we have to buy 2 licenses or more
> for
> our
> team here... we are a small company.
>
> Thanks all for reading this.
>
> Rob K