C# 'applets' and their limitations

[studen77]

Thanks to anyone in advance whom can offer their wisdom :)

Guys, I'd like to run a C# thin client app with cross browser functionaliy
similar to a Java applet.
However, from the literature I've currently read this would only be possible
in IE
due to ActiveX being enabled by default. Not only that, but the user would
have to be running a windows OS.

Is this true? and if so how could microsoft be SO shortsighted in doing
this? If their plans were to render Java obsolete by requiring users to run
windows OS and have IE to run .NET client apps then they have failed
miserably..

Can anyone confirm or deny this? If its not the case then how can this be
done?

[The Crow]

yes, u r right. only thing you can do is using active x. but maybe u can
write a windows application and run it on mono installed linux machines

[studen77]

You know, I'm gonna be critical here but microsoft was absoutely stupid in
doing this...will Whidbey offer any improvements in this? The .Net languages
are great and in someways superior to Java but to force users into IE and a
windows OS is just plain dumb.

[John Davison]

studen77 wrote:

Thanks to anyone in advance whom can offer their wisdom :)

Guys, I'd like to run a C# thin client app with cross browser functionaliy
similar to a Java applet.
However, from the literature I've currently read this would only be possible
in IE
due to ActiveX being enabled by default. Not only that, but the user would
have to be running a windows OS.

Is this true? and if so how could microsoft be SO shortsighted in doing
this? If their plans were to render Java obsolete by requiring users to run
windows OS and have IE to run .NET client apps then they have failed
miserably..

Can anyone confirm or deny this? If its not the case then how can this be
done?

..NET is a Windows framework. Actually, a Windows + IE framework if you
look at it from that perspecitive. Very good for Intranet applications
where the user environment is controlled. Not so good for you are
talking about.

Java is still king here, IMHO. JWS is great.

John Davison
Compass Engineering Group

[Richard Blewett [DevelopMentor]]

You need an IE varient because other browser authors have not incuded .NET integration - unlike JVM integration which they have.

You need Windows because other operating systems haven't got a CLR unlike the ones that have a JVM already.

My Java friends tell me the future of Java is on the serverside or client apps not applets so frankly I don't see the big deal.

Regards

Richard Blewett - DevelopMentor
http://www.dotnetconsult.co.uk/weblog
http://www.dotnetconsult.co.uk

Thanks to anyone in advance whom can offer their wisdom :)

Guys, I'd like to run a C# thin client app with cross browser functionaliy
similar to a Java applet.
However, from the literature I've currently read this would only be possible
in IE
due to ActiveX being enabled by default. Not only that, but the user would
have to be running a windows OS.

Is this true? and if so how could microsoft be SO shortsighted in doing
this? If their plans were to render Java obsolete by requiring users to run
windows OS and have IE to run .NET client apps then they have failed
miserably..

Can anyone confirm or deny this? If its not the case then how can this be
done?

[John Davison]

studen77 wrote:

You know, I'm gonna be critical here but microsoft was absoutely stupid in
doing this...will Whidbey offer any improvements in this? The .Net languages
are great and in someways superior to Java but to force users into IE and a
windows OS is just plain dumb.

C'mon man. Microsoft is a business. It wouldn't make sense for them to
create a product that steers people *away* from their other products.
It makes perfect sense to me.

If you don't want to be tied in to their products, use Java.

IIRC Widbey and .NET are closely tied together. But it's still Windows.
:-)

John

[Steve Walker]

In message <30***************************@FUSE.NET>, John Davison
<no**********@yahoo.com> writes

studen77 wrote:

You know, I'm gonna be critical here but microsoft was absoutely
stupid in doing this...will Whidbey offer any improvements in this?
The .Net languages are great and in someways superior to Java but to
force users into IE and a windows OS is just plain dumb.

C'mon man. Microsoft is a business. It wouldn't make sense for them
to create a product that steers people *away* from their other
products. It makes perfect sense to me.

And, to be fair, I doubt that it is impossible for someone to write a
plugin for other browsers which hosts .NET components using Mono. A
quick google for "mono plugin browser" gives:

http://lists.ximian.com/archives/pub...5-March/011160
..html

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Steve Walker