how to create a web services living on its own? (no web server!)
any links, pointers?
9  6047 
something has to listen to the port, receive the packets, guard against
viruses... etc... if not the web server, then you are doing socket
programming.
google on 'network programming .net' to get more info on the topic.
--- Nick
"Lloyd Dupont" <ld@NewsAccount.galador.net> wrote in message
news:eU**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... how to create a web services living on its own? (no web server!)
any links, pointers?
Not really. Web service do not have to work over HTTP, they can be called
using other protocols, or as you suggested, directly over IP sockets
(Microsoft does this with their SOAP over UDP) or even not using IP at all
(such as web services over e-mail, where you let the mail server handle the
communication on you just handle the service execution).
But Lloyd needs to be a little bit more specific about what exactly he wants
to do.
Jerry
"Nick Malik" <ni*******@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Gm2ed.512360$8_6.495892@attbi_s04... something has to listen to the port, receive the packets, guard against
viruses... etc... if not the web server, then you are doing socket
programming.
google on 'network programming .net' to get more info on the topic.
--- Nick
"Lloyd Dupont" <ld@NewsAccount.galador.net> wrote in message
news:eU**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... how to create a web services living on its own? (no web server!)
any links, pointers?
in fact I have a .NET client and a Java server
which I'm both about to write.
BTW the server is not a web server, that' just a multiplatform server
communication with various native client (objectiveC client on mac), hence
my project to use web services instead of other native high level RPC (such
as RMI, Remoting, DO)
anyway I want this java server to be easy to install (you pop in the CD,
click ok, and that's it)
all tutorial I see in java requires tremendous installation effort (install
a web server, an EJB container, etc...)
I know that web service, in theory, doesn't require a web server, but in
practice that seems a little bit different...... I can't find any tutorial
'standalone java web services'
I was thinking to scrap the requirement and have .NET C# server too, because
I still want easy install, so I was wondering about how to implement C# web
services standalone server.
what else could I say?...
any tips?..
"Jerry Pisk" <je******@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u5*************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... Not really. Web service do not have to work over HTTP, they can be called
using other protocols, or as you suggested, directly over IP sockets
(Microsoft does this with their SOAP over UDP) or even not using IP at all
(such as web services over e-mail, where you let the mail server handle
the communication on you just handle the service execution).
But Lloyd needs to be a little bit more specific about what exactly he
wants to do.
Jerry
"Nick Malik" <ni*******@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Gm2ed.512360$8_6.495892@attbi_s04... something has to listen to the port, receive the packets, guard against
viruses... etc... if not the web server, then you are doing socket
programming.
google on 'network programming .net' to get more info on the topic.
--- Nick
"Lloyd Dupont" <ld@NewsAccount.galador.net> wrote in message
news:eU**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... how to create a web services living on its own? (no web server!)
any links, pointers?
as was previously mentioned - check out CASINO
"Lloyd Dupont" <ld@NewsAccount.galador.net> wrote in message
news:e2****************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... in fact I have a .NET client and a Java server
which I'm both about to write.
BTW the server is not a web server, that' just a multiplatform server
communication with various native client (objectiveC client on mac), hence
my project to use web services instead of other native high level RPC
(such as RMI, Remoting, DO)
anyway I want this java server to be easy to install (you pop in the CD,
click ok, and that's it)
all tutorial I see in java requires tremendous installation effort
(install a web server, an EJB container, etc...)
I know that web service, in theory, doesn't require a web server, but in
practice that seems a little bit different...... I can't find any tutorial
'standalone java web services'
I was thinking to scrap the requirement and have .NET C# server too,
because I still want easy install, so I was wondering about how to implement C#
web services standalone server.
what else could I say?...
any tips?..
"Jerry Pisk" <je******@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u5*************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... Not really. Web service do not have to work over HTTP, they can be
called using other protocols, or as you suggested, directly over IP sockets
(Microsoft does this with their SOAP over UDP) or even not using IP at
all (such as web services over e-mail, where you let the mail server handle
the communication on you just handle the service execution).
But Lloyd needs to be a little bit more specific about what exactly he
wants to do.
Jerry
"Nick Malik" <ni*******@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Gm2ed.512360$8_6.495892@attbi_s04... something has to listen to the port, receive the packets, guard against
viruses... etc... if not the web server, then you are doing socket
programming.
google on 'network programming .net' to get more info on the topic.
--- Nick
"Lloyd Dupont" <ld@NewsAccount.galador.net> wrote in message
news:eU**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
how to create a web services living on its own? (no web server!)
any links, pointers?
uh?
I google for it but... nothing relevant came out...
"gerry" <ge**@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ej**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... as was previously mentioned - check out CASINO
"Lloyd Dupont" <ld@NewsAccount.galador.net> wrote in message
news:e2****************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... in fact I have a .NET client and a Java server
which I'm both about to write.
BTW the server is not a web server, that' just a multiplatform server
communication with various native client (objectiveC client on mac),
hence
my project to use web services instead of other native high level RPC
(such as RMI, Remoting, DO)
anyway I want this java server to be easy to install (you pop in the CD,
click ok, and that's it)
all tutorial I see in java requires tremendous installation effort
(install a web server, an EJB container, etc...)
I know that web service, in theory, doesn't require a web server, but in
practice that seems a little bit different...... I can't find any
tutorial
'standalone java web services'
I was thinking to scrap the requirement and have .NET C# server too,
because I still want easy install, so I was wondering about how to implement C#
web services standalone server.
what else could I say?...
any tips?..
"Jerry Pisk" <je******@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u5*************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > Not really. Web service do not have to work over HTTP, they can be called > using other protocols, or as you suggested, directly over IP sockets
> (Microsoft does this with their SOAP over UDP) or even not using IP at all > (such as web services over e-mail, where you let the mail server handle
> the communication on you just handle the service execution).
>
> But Lloyd needs to be a little bit more specific about what exactly he
> wants to do.
>
> Jerry
>
> "Nick Malik" <ni*******@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:Gm2ed.512360$8_6.495892@attbi_s04...
>> something has to listen to the port, receive the packets, guard
>> against
>> viruses... etc... if not the web server, then you are doing socket
>> programming.
>> google on 'network programming .net' to get more info on the topic.
>>
>> --- Nick
>>
>> "Lloyd Dupont" <ld@NewsAccount.galador.net> wrote in message
>> news:eU**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> how to create a web services living on its own? (no web server!)
>>>
>>> any links, pointers?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
oh.. I see.. thanks for that!
"Richard Blewett [DevelopMentor]" <ri******@develop.com> wrote in message
news:eR**************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... He meant Cassini
http://asp.net/Projects/Cassini/Down...ndex=0&tabid=1
Regards
Richard Blewett - DevelopMentor
http://staff.develop.com/richardb/weblog
uh?
I google for it but... nothing relevant came out...
"gerry" <ge**@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ej**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... as was previously mentioned - check out CASINO
lol - oops - now how did i not notice that little gaff ?
"Richard Blewett [DevelopMentor]" <ri******@develop.com> wrote in message
news:eR**************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... He meant Cassini
http://asp.net/Projects/Cassini/Down...ndex=0&tabid=1
Regards
Richard Blewett - DevelopMentor
http://staff.develop.com/richardb/weblog
uh?
I google for it but... nothing relevant came out...
"gerry" <ge**@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ej**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > as was previously mentioned - check out CASINO
>
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