2005 beta 'Express' editions

[Bonj]

I've had a look at the VS 2005 express editions on the MS website, does
anybody know the answer to the following about them?

It says that with c# you can create console applications, windows
applications, and class libraries. Presumably this means these are the *only*
types of project you can create with them, but is all the functionality
available for within these? i.e. can you do as much when building a console
application with express edition than you can with normal?

The VC++ says it has a 'professional grade' compiler with 'whole program
optimization'. Does this mean it's the optimizing compiler that you get?

Also has anybody had experience with these editions, if so how good to use /
effective, or otherwise did you find them?

[Jochen Kalmbach]

=?Utf-8?B?Qm9uag==?= wrote:

i.e. can you do as much when
building a console application with express edition than you can with
normal?
Yes.
The VC++ says it has a 'professional grade' compiler with 'whole
program optimization'. Does this mean it's the optimizing compiler
that you get?
Yes.
Also has anybody had experience with these editions, if so how good to
use / effective, or otherwise did you find them?

They are very good, but you should *not* use it in production environment!

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[Bonj]

> They are very good, but you should *not* use it in production environment!

What, because they're beta or because they're express versions?

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[Jochen Kalmbach]

=?Utf-8?B?Qm9uag==?= wrote:

They are very good, but you should *not* use it in production
environment!

What, because they're beta or because they're express versions?

Beta.

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[Bonj]

Have you personally found any problems with them?

Are they good for hobbyist development, i.e. if I try it and I find it
definitely can do what I want, I might aswell trust it to do so?

[Jochen Kalmbach]

=?Utf-8?B?Qm9uag==?= wrote:

Have you personally found any problems with them?
No.
Are they good for hobbyist development, i.e. if I try it and I find it
definitely can do what I want, I might aswell trust it to do so?

Yes

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[Fred Mellender]

I have used C# Express on 5 Form-based projects. There are some rather
minor bugs, but overall I am pleased. You can see some of the work other
folk have done using these tools on the "Summer of Express Contest"
WebPages:
http://channel9.msdn.com/forums.aspx . No one has mentioned any
show-stoppers.

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I've had a look at the VS 2005 express editions on the MS website, does
anybody know the answer to the following about them?

It says that with c# you can create console applications, windows
applications, and class libraries. Presumably this means these are the
*only*
types of project you can create with them, but is all the functionality
available for within these? i.e. can you do as much when building a
console
application with express edition than you can with normal?

The VC++ says it has a 'professional grade' compiler with 'whole program
optimization'. Does this mean it's the optimizing compiler that you get?

Also has anybody had experience with these editions, if so how good to use
/
effective, or otherwise did you find them?

[Bonj]

> There are some rather

minor bugs,

such as?

[Jochen Kalmbach]

=?Utf-8?B?Qm9uag==?= wrote:

There are some rather
minor bugs,

such as?

Please go to

http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/ProductFeedback/

And search all bugs for C#

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