SQL Server 2005 Express Beta Problems

[Michael C]

While I think just about every IT expert out here agrees that the first
commandment is Thou Shalt Not Install Beta Software in a Production
Environment, the corollary to this would have to be that if you're naive
enough to install a beta of anything on a production machine, you should *at
the very least* least back it up. Even if you're installing an RTM version
or Service Pack you should take precautionary steps in case something breaks
and you have to roll it back.

I have to say though, the reduction of installing this software to a simple
38 to 1 against, all-or-nothing proposition is a little sobering, to say the
least. (Assuming the installation was an American installation and not a
European installation where the odds would be 37 to 1 that you'd fail,
correct?)

Think I'll stick with BlackJack... and delaying new software purchases until
at least the first full service pack is released.

Thanks,
Michael C.

"Bradley M. Small" <BS****@XNOSPAMXmjsi.com> wrote in message
news:u0**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

Wow, I guess Beta means nothing to some people. I can certainly remember back to when there weren't such wide open Beta's and it was difficult even to get a Beta copy of anything much less something like SQL server.

I can even remember some beta licenses that required a full disk format before installation.

It's BETA it can and may wipe out your whole system. If you can't risk the system you are putting it on, then don't put it on, and wait for a release version.

It is just like gambling, if you can't afford to lose the $100 in your
pocket, then keep it there and don't bet it on roulette.

[Lars Wilhelmsen]

Hi Michael,

"Michael C" <mi*******@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:9X*********************@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.n et...

While I think just about every IT expert out here agrees that the first
commandment is Thou Shalt Not Install Beta Software in a Production
Environment, the corollary to this would have to be that if you're naive

....

I really do not think this is the right group to post your frustrations over
the
SQL 2k5 Express beta...

Regards,

Lars Wilhelmsen
Software Engineer
Teleplan A/S, Norway

[Michael C]

Hi "Lars",

I have *absolutely no* frustrations with the SQL 2k5 Express Beta; probably
because I'm not so naive as to install beta software on production machines.

I don't think this is the right group for *you* to respond to a post you
*obviously* didn't bother reading; and *obviously* aren't familiar with the
previously posted threads on the topic or the subject matter. Feel free to
re-read the *entire* post and possibly some starter material to figure out
what's going on around you before you respond blindly to a *subject line*.

Regards,
Michael C.

"Lars Wilhelmsen" <la*****@NOSPAM.ifi.uio.no> wrote in message
news:uI*************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...

Hi Michael,

"Michael C" <mi*******@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:9X*********************@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.n et...

While I think just about every IT expert out here agrees that the first
commandment is Thou Shalt Not Install Beta Software in a Production
Environment, the corollary to this would have to be that if you're naive ...

I really do not think this is the right group to post your frustrations

over the
SQL 2k5 Express beta...

Regards,

Lars Wilhelmsen
Software Engineer
Teleplan A/S, Norway

[Beeeeeeeeeeeeves]

Please don't make posts about silly future versions that only you and your internet buddies have got.
"Michael C" wrote:

While I think just about every IT expert out here agrees that the first
commandment is Thou Shalt Not Install Beta Software in a Production
Environment, the corollary to this would have to be that if you're naive
enough to install a beta of anything on a production machine, you should *at
the very least* least back it up. Even if you're installing an RTM version
or Service Pack you should take precautionary steps in case something breaks
and you have to roll it back.

I have to say though, the reduction of installing this software to a simple
38 to 1 against, all-or-nothing proposition is a little sobering, to say the
least. (Assuming the installation was an American installation and not a
European installation where the odds would be 37 to 1 that you'd fail,
correct?)

Think I'll stick with BlackJack... and delaying new software purchases until
at least the first full service pack is released.

Thanks,
Michael C.

"Bradley M. Small" <BS****@XNOSPAMXmjsi.com> wrote in message
news:u0**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Wow, I guess Beta means nothing to some people. I can certainly remember > back to when there weren't such wide open Beta's and it was difficult

even

> to get a Beta copy of anything much less something like SQL server.
>
> I can even remember some beta licenses that required a full disk format > before installation.
>
> It's BETA it can and may wipe out your whole system. If you can't risk

the

> system you are putting it on, then don't put it on, and wait for a

release

> version.
>
> It is just like gambling, if you can't afford to lose the $100 in your
> pocket, then keep it there and don't bet it on roulette.

[Roy Fine]

"Beeeeeeeeeeeeves" <Be**************@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:88**********************************@microsof t.com...

Please don't make posts about silly future versions that only you and your internet buddies have got.
"have got" is incorrect.

Use "and your internet buddies have" to denote current ownership.
Alternatively, use " and your internet buddies have gotten" to denote some
past action.

regards
roy fine

"Michael C" wrote:

While I think just about every IT expert out here agrees that the first
commandment is Thou Shalt Not Install Beta Software in a Production
Environment, the corollary to this would have to be that if you're naive
enough to install a beta of anything on a production machine, you should *at the very least* least back it up. Even if you're installing an RTM version or Service Pack you should take precautionary steps in case something breaks and you have to roll it back.

I have to say though, the reduction of installing this software to a simple 38 to 1 against, all-or-nothing proposition is a little sobering, to say the least. (Assuming the installation was an American installation and not a European installation where the odds would be 37 to 1 that you'd fail,
correct?)

Think I'll stick with BlackJack... and delaying new software purchases until at least the first full service pack is released.

Thanks,
Michael C.

> "Bradley M. Small" <BS****@XNOSPAMXmjsi.com> wrote in message
> news:u0**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Wow, I guess Beta means nothing to some people. I can certainly

remember

> > back to when there weren't such wide open Beta's and it was difficult even
> > to get a Beta copy of anything much less something like SQL server. > >
> > I can even remember some beta licenses that required a full disk

format

> > before installation.
> >
> > It's BETA it can and may wipe out your whole system. If you can't risk the
> > system you are putting it on, then don't put it on, and wait for a
release
> > version.
> >
> > It is just like gambling, if you can't afford to lose the $100 in your > > pocket, then keep it there and don't bet it on roulette.

[Simon Smith]

On 12 Jul 2004 11:33, "Roy Fine" wrote:

"Beeeeeeeeeeeeves" <Be**************@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:88**********************************@microsof t.com...

Please don't make posts about silly future versions that only you and your

internet buddies have got.

"have got" is incorrect.

Use "and your internet buddies have" to denote current ownership.
Alternatively, use " and your internet buddies have gotten" to denote some
past action.

regards
roy fine

In UK English he's right although stylistically I'd prefer your first
suggestion - drop the 'got'; in UK English 'gotten' is not a word at all.
Personally, I was wondering who the 'internet buddies' were.....
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