StringGrid

[Hector Martinez]

In C++ Builder and Delphi we can use something know as "StringGrid", I can't find something like this in Visual C#.

Can any one help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanx in advantage....

[Jon Skeet [C# MVP]]

Hector Martinez <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

In C++ Builder and Delphi we can use something know as "StringGrid", I
can't find something like this in Visual C#.

Can any one help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not familiar with C++ Builder or Delphi (and I suspect many other
posters won't be either) - could you tell us what a StringGrid is? Tell
us what you actually want to do, rather than how you'd do it in C++
Builder :)

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[Miha Markic [MVP C#]]

Hi Jon,

AFAIK string grid is a grid where all cells represent a string or text -
something like DataGrid but less powerful.
I think he might use DataGrid instead.

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Hector Martinez <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

In C++ Builder and Delphi we can use something know as "StringGrid", I
can't find something like this in Visual C#.

Can any one help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not familiar with C++ Builder or Delphi (and I suspect many other
posters won't be either) - could you tell us what a StringGrid is? Tell
us what you actually want to do, rather than how you'd do it in C++
Builder :)

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[Miha Markic [MVP C#]]

DataGrid?

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"Hector Martinez" <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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In C++ Builder and Delphi we can use something know as "StringGrid", I can't find something like this in Visual C#.
Can any one help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanx in advantage....

[Tony Drake]

LOL

As a delphi programmer moving to C#, the string grid, and such 'super'
grids appear a lot more powerful then the datagrid.

See the following two sites:
http://www.delphi-gems.com/VirtualTreeview/VT.php
http://www.tmssoftware.com/advgrid2.htm
Both brilliant, and one free!!!! (he's thinking of porting it to c#).

It's hard to put my finger on it, but in delphi land, we moved away
from tying data to forms years ago, and moved to more 'abstract'
methods. All the ado.net stuff I see seems to be stuck in 2-tier land
(I might have not read the right books/web sites)

I'm very new the C# (< month and loving it), but the general level of
components avaliable seem very basic. The type of thing we could do
with the stringgrid family of components are things such as a 'mixed
tree/grid' - banding, merged cells, owner draw etc etc see very hand,
or not supported in most grid examples. I might not know how to use
the datagrid, but the propeties are not there,

I just love how people assume 'their' language is the best, with the
best features etc etc.

Oh, and by the way I've moved to C# not because delphi cannot do
everything I need, it because of perceptions like this, and one has to
eat, so we delphi guys can't fight it anymore.

Looking foward to finding out how to handle non-data bound
unstructured strings using a mix tree/grid in one 'grid'..... ;-)

Oh and do remember the guy who architected delphi was the atchitect of
C# - C# is like Delphi with a 'C++/Java' syntax to me!!

tony
ekard software
express enterprise software

"Miha Markic [MVP C#]" <miha at rthand com> wrote:

Hi Jon,

AFAIK string grid is a grid where all cells represent a string or text -
something like DataGrid but less powerful.
I think he might use DataGrid instead.

--
Miha Markic [MVP C#] - RightHand .NET consulting & software development
miha at rthand com
www.rthand.com

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Hector Martinez <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> In C++ Builder and Delphi we can use something know as "StringGrid", I
> can't find something like this in Visual C#.
>
> Can any one help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not familiar with C++ Builder or Delphi (and I suspect many other
posters won't be either) - could you tell us what a StringGrid is? Tell
us what you actually want to do, rather than how you'd do it in C++
Builder :)

--
Jon Skeet - <sk***@pobox.com>
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet
If replying to the group, please do not mail me too

[Miha Markic [MVP C#]]

Hi Tony,

"Tony Drake" <drake@usa_._net_> wrote in message
news:40***************@news.microsoft.com...

LOL

As a delphi programmer moving to C#, the string grid, and such 'super'
grids appear a lot more powerful then the datagrid.

See the following two sites:
http://www.delphi-gems.com/VirtualTreeview/VT.php
http://www.tmssoftware.com/advgrid2.htm
Both brilliant, and one free!!!! (he's thinking of porting it to c#).
Is this a stringgrid provided with Delphi or a derived 3rd party component?
It's hard to put my finger on it, but in delphi land, we moved away
from tying data to forms years ago, and moved to more 'abstract'
methods.
Good for you.

All the ado.net stuff I see seems to be stuck in 2-tier land (I might have not read the right books/web sites)
Obviously you haven't.

I'm very new the C# (< month and loving it), but the general level of
components avaliable seem very basic. The type of thing we could do
with the stringgrid family of components are things such as a 'mixed
tree/grid' - banding, merged cells, owner draw etc etc see very hand,
or not supported in most grid examples. I might not know how to use
the datagrid, but the propeties are not there,
With stringgrid provided with Delphi?
I just love how people assume 'their' language is the best, with the
best features etc etc.
Indeed.
Oh, and by the way I've moved to C# not because delphi cannot do
everything I need, it because of perceptions like this, and one has to
eat, so we delphi guys can't fight it anymore.
Yes, even delphi guys have to eat.
Looking foward to finding out how to handle non-data bound
unstructured strings using a mix tree/grid in one 'grid'..... ;-)

Oh and do remember the guy who architected delphi was the atchitect of
C# - C# is like Delphi with a 'C++/Java' syntax to me!!

Really? That's really astonishing discovery. Does he know it? :)

--
Miha Markic [MVP C#] - DXSquad/RightHand .NET consulting & software
development
miha at rthand com www.rthand.com

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[Tony Drake]

Hi Miha,

Thanks for you reply.

"Miha Markic [MVP C#]" <miha at rthand com> wrote:

Hi Tony,

"Tony Drake" <drake@usa_._net_> wrote in message
news:40***************@news.microsoft.com...

LOL

As a delphi programmer moving to C#, the string grid, and such 'super'
grids appear a lot more powerful then the datagrid.

See the following two sites:
http://www.delphi-gems.com/VirtualTreeview/VT.php
http://www.tmssoftware.com/advgrid2.htm
Both brilliant, and one free!!!! (he's thinking of porting it to c#).
Is this a stringgrid provided with Delphi or a derived 3rd party component?

Touch! You are right. The standard comp with delphi is poor, but as
the 1st comp is free it 'feels' like part of Dephi ;-)

It's hard to put my finger on it, but in delphi land, we moved away
from tying data to forms years ago, and moved to more 'abstract'
methods.
Good for you.

All the ado.net stuff I see seems to be stuck in 2-tier land

(I might have not read the right books/web sites)

Obviously you haven't.

Any Ideas? I've got 'Deitel's C# A programmer introduction' which I'm
finding really good, and C# Class Design handbook - while good a bit
light on detail. and a 'generic' ado.net book (at work tonight), which
is a bit '2-tier'.

Anything that's focusing on object persistance, or n'tier database on
c# (not asp net - gui too

I'm very new the C# (< month and loving it), but the general level of
components avaliable seem very basic. The type of thing we could do
with the stringgrid family of components are things such as a 'mixed
tree/grid' - banding, merged cells, owner draw etc etc see very hand,
or not supported in most grid examples. I might not know how to use
the datagrid, but the propeties are not there,
With stringgrid provided with Delphi?

I conceed, you are right the standard one doesn't do this.

I just love how people assume 'their' language is the best, with the
best features etc etc.
Indeed.

Oh, and by the way I've moved to C# not because delphi cannot do
everything I need, it because of perceptions like this, and one has to
eat, so we delphi guys can't fight it anymore.

Yes, even delphi guys have to eat.

Looking foward to finding out how to handle non-data bound
unstructured strings using a mix tree/grid in one 'grid'..... ;-)

Oh and do remember the guy who architected delphi was the atchitect of
C# - C# is like Delphi with a 'C++/Java' syntax to me!!

Really? That's really astonishing discovery. Does he know it? :)

see
http://windows.oreilly.com/news/hejlsberg_0800.html

Absoluetely, Anders Hejlsberg Chief C# Language Architect who also
architected the orginal Delphi in 1993 was poached by MS in the late
1998, and was put to work 'fixing J++, as did so. (remember the 'vb'
like j++... ), when MS killed that, he was asked to build a java
killer, and was on the team who but .net together and build the C#
language - which he admitted was based on the Delphi object strucutre.
Believe me, if C# is Delphi version 2 (or Delphi with the minor
mistakes fixed - eg better garbage collection) it all good and will
rock!!

BTW I've found more stuff on binding arraylist to grids (hopping it
will work with a hasharray etc, and have downloaded the trial
Devexpress grids...

--
Miha Markic [MVP C#] - DXSquad/RightHand .NET consulting & software
development
miha at rthand com www.rthand.com

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[genc ymeri]

Hi Tony,
I had the same problem and I did ask the same question. The only thing
close to StringGrid I have seen so far is ListView. This is what I got way
with. DataGrid had terrible slow speed while trying to add some arrays as
rows......
Good luck.

Genc Ymeri
x-Delphi programmer

"Tony Drake" <drake@usa_._net_> wrote in message
news:40***************@news.microsoft.com...

Hi Miha,

Thanks for you reply.

"Miha Markic [MVP C#]" <miha at rthand com> wrote:

Hi Tony,

"Tony Drake" <drake@usa_._net_> wrote in message
news:40***************@news.microsoft.com...

LOL

As a delphi programmer moving to C#, the string grid, and such 'super'
grids appear a lot more powerful then the datagrid.

See the following two sites:
http://www.delphi-gems.com/VirtualTreeview/VT.php
http://www.tmssoftware.com/advgrid2.htm
Both brilliant, and one free!!!! (he's thinking of porting it to c#).
Is this a stringgrid provided with Delphi or a derived 3rd party component? Touch! You are right. The standard comp with delphi is poor, but as
the 1st comp is free it 'feels' like part of Dephi ;-)

It's hard to put my finger on it, but in delphi land, we moved away
from tying data to forms years ago, and moved to more 'abstract'
methods.

Good for you.

All the ado.net stuff I see seems to be stuck in 2-tier land

(I might have not read the right books/web sites)

Obviously you haven't.

Any Ideas? I've got 'Deitel's C# A programmer introduction' which I'm
finding really good, and C# Class Design handbook - while good a bit
light on detail. and a 'generic' ado.net book (at work tonight), which
is a bit '2-tier'.

Anything that's focusing on object persistance, or n'tier database on
c# (not asp net - gui too

I'm very new the C# (< month and loving it), but the general level of
components avaliable seem very basic. The type of thing we could do
with the stringgrid family of components are things such as a 'mixed
tree/grid' - banding, merged cells, owner draw etc etc see very hand,
or not supported in most grid examples. I might not know how to use
the datagrid, but the propeties are not there,

With stringgrid provided with Delphi?

I conceed, you are right the standard one doesn't do this.

I just love how people assume 'their' language is the best, with the
best features etc etc.

Indeed.

Oh, and by the way I've moved to C# not because delphi cannot do
everything I need, it because of perceptions like this, and one has to
eat, so we delphi guys can't fight it anymore.

Yes, even delphi guys have to eat.

Looking foward to finding out how to handle non-data bound
unstructured strings using a mix tree/grid in one 'grid'..... ;-)

Oh and do remember the guy who architected delphi was the atchitect of
C# - C# is like Delphi with a 'C++/Java' syntax to me!!

Really? That's really astonishing discovery. Does he know it? :)

see
http://windows.oreilly.com/news/hejlsberg_0800.html

Absoluetely, Anders Hejlsberg Chief C# Language Architect who also
architected the orginal Delphi in 1993 was poached by MS in the late
1998, and was put to work 'fixing J++, as did so. (remember the 'vb'
like j++... ), when MS killed that, he was asked to build a java
killer, and was on the team who but .net together and build the C#
language - which he admitted was based on the Delphi object strucutre.
Believe me, if C# is Delphi version 2 (or Delphi with the minor
mistakes fixed - eg better garbage collection) it all good and will
rock!!

BTW I've found more stuff on binding arraylist to grids (hopping it
will work with a hasharray etc, and have downloaded the trial
Devexpress grids...

--
Miha Markic [MVP C#] - DXSquad/RightHand .NET consulting & software
development
miha at rthand com www.rthand.com

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[genc ymeri]

Hi Tony,
I had the same problem and I did ask the same question. The only thing
close to StringGrid I have seen so far is ListView. This is what I got way
with. DataGrid had terrible slow speed while trying to add some arrays as
rows......
Good luck.

Genc Ymeri
x-Delphi programmer

"Tony Drake" <drake@usa_._net_> wrote in message
news:40***************@news.microsoft.com...

Hi Miha,

Thanks for you reply.

"Miha Markic [MVP C#]" <miha at rthand com> wrote:

Hi Tony,

"Tony Drake" <drake@usa_._net_> wrote in message
news:40***************@news.microsoft.com...

LOL

As a delphi programmer moving to C#, the string grid, and such 'super'
grids appear a lot more powerful then the datagrid.

See the following two sites:
http://www.delphi-gems.com/VirtualTreeview/VT.php
http://www.tmssoftware.com/advgrid2.htm
Both brilliant, and one free!!!! (he's thinking of porting it to c#).
Is this a stringgrid provided with Delphi or a derived 3rd party component? Touch! You are right. The standard comp with delphi is poor, but as
the 1st comp is free it 'feels' like part of Dephi ;-)

It's hard to put my finger on it, but in delphi land, we moved away
from tying data to forms years ago, and moved to more 'abstract'
methods.

Good for you.

All the ado.net stuff I see seems to be stuck in 2-tier land

(I might have not read the right books/web sites)

Obviously you haven't.

Any Ideas? I've got 'Deitel's C# A programmer introduction' which I'm
finding really good, and C# Class Design handbook - while good a bit
light on detail. and a 'generic' ado.net book (at work tonight), which
is a bit '2-tier'.

Anything that's focusing on object persistance, or n'tier database on
c# (not asp net - gui too

I'm very new the C# (< month and loving it), but the general level of
components avaliable seem very basic. The type of thing we could do
with the stringgrid family of components are things such as a 'mixed
tree/grid' - banding, merged cells, owner draw etc etc see very hand,
or not supported in most grid examples. I might not know how to use
the datagrid, but the propeties are not there,

With stringgrid provided with Delphi?

I conceed, you are right the standard one doesn't do this.

I just love how people assume 'their' language is the best, with the
best features etc etc.

Indeed.

Oh, and by the way I've moved to C# not because delphi cannot do
everything I need, it because of perceptions like this, and one has to
eat, so we delphi guys can't fight it anymore.

Yes, even delphi guys have to eat.

Looking foward to finding out how to handle non-data bound
unstructured strings using a mix tree/grid in one 'grid'..... ;-)

Oh and do remember the guy who architected delphi was the atchitect of
C# - C# is like Delphi with a 'C++/Java' syntax to me!!

Really? That's really astonishing discovery. Does he know it? :)

see
http://windows.oreilly.com/news/hejlsberg_0800.html

Absoluetely, Anders Hejlsberg Chief C# Language Architect who also
architected the orginal Delphi in 1993 was poached by MS in the late
1998, and was put to work 'fixing J++, as did so. (remember the 'vb'
like j++... ), when MS killed that, he was asked to build a java
killer, and was on the team who but .net together and build the C#
language - which he admitted was based on the Delphi object strucutre.
Believe me, if C# is Delphi version 2 (or Delphi with the minor
mistakes fixed - eg better garbage collection) it all good and will
rock!!

BTW I've found more stuff on binding arraylist to grids (hopping it
will work with a hasharray etc, and have downloaded the trial
Devexpress grids...

--
Miha Markic [MVP C#] - DXSquad/RightHand .NET consulting & software
development
miha at rthand com www.rthand.com

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[genc ymeri]

Hi Tony,
I had the same problem and I did ask the same question. The only thing
close to StringGrid I have seen so far is ListView. This is what I got way
with. DataGrid had terrible slow speed while trying to add some arrays as
rows......
Good luck.

Genc Ymeri
x-Delphi programmer

"Tony Drake" <drake@usa_._net_> wrote in message
news:40***************@news.microsoft.com...

Hi Miha,

Thanks for you reply.

"Miha Markic [MVP C#]" <miha at rthand com> wrote:

Hi Tony,

"Tony Drake" <drake@usa_._net_> wrote in message
news:40***************@news.microsoft.com...

LOL

As a delphi programmer moving to C#, the string grid, and such 'super'
grids appear a lot more powerful then the datagrid.

See the following two sites:
http://www.delphi-gems.com/VirtualTreeview/VT.php
http://www.tmssoftware.com/advgrid2.htm
Both brilliant, and one free!!!! (he's thinking of porting it to c#).
Is this a stringgrid provided with Delphi or a derived 3rd party component? Touch! You are right. The standard comp with delphi is poor, but as
the 1st comp is free it 'feels' like part of Dephi ;-)

It's hard to put my finger on it, but in delphi land, we moved away
from tying data to forms years ago, and moved to more 'abstract'
methods.

Good for you.

All the ado.net stuff I see seems to be stuck in 2-tier land

(I might have not read the right books/web sites)

Obviously you haven't.

Any Ideas? I've got 'Deitel's C# A programmer introduction' which I'm
finding really good, and C# Class Design handbook - while good a bit
light on detail. and a 'generic' ado.net book (at work tonight), which
is a bit '2-tier'.

Anything that's focusing on object persistance, or n'tier database on
c# (not asp net - gui too

I'm very new the C# (< month and loving it), but the general level of
components avaliable seem very basic. The type of thing we could do
with the stringgrid family of components are things such as a 'mixed
tree/grid' - banding, merged cells, owner draw etc etc see very hand,
or not supported in most grid examples. I might not know how to use
the datagrid, but the propeties are not there,

With stringgrid provided with Delphi?

I conceed, you are right the standard one doesn't do this.

I just love how people assume 'their' language is the best, with the
best features etc etc.

Indeed.

Oh, and by the way I've moved to C# not because delphi cannot do
everything I need, it because of perceptions like this, and one has to
eat, so we delphi guys can't fight it anymore.

Yes, even delphi guys have to eat.

Looking foward to finding out how to handle non-data bound
unstructured strings using a mix tree/grid in one 'grid'..... ;-)

Oh and do remember the guy who architected delphi was the atchitect of
C# - C# is like Delphi with a 'C++/Java' syntax to me!!

Really? That's really astonishing discovery. Does he know it? :)

see
http://windows.oreilly.com/news/hejlsberg_0800.html

Absoluetely, Anders Hejlsberg Chief C# Language Architect who also
architected the orginal Delphi in 1993 was poached by MS in the late
1998, and was put to work 'fixing J++, as did so. (remember the 'vb'
like j++... ), when MS killed that, he was asked to build a java
killer, and was on the team who but .net together and build the C#
language - which he admitted was based on the Delphi object strucutre.
Believe me, if C# is Delphi version 2 (or Delphi with the minor
mistakes fixed - eg better garbage collection) it all good and will
rock!!

BTW I've found more stuff on binding arraylist to grids (hopping it
will work with a hasharray etc, and have downloaded the trial
Devexpress grids...

--
Miha Markic [MVP C#] - DXSquad/RightHand .NET consulting & software
development
miha at rthand com www.rthand.com

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