Hi Timothy,
I am glad that at last you resolved your problem.
I think you can create a new project and serialize some class objects
that contain some thread objects.
If the problem still arise, I think the problem must be related to your
IDE,
otherwise, it is related your application achitecture.
For you question of best solution, I do not quite certain, because I am
also
new to the .net remoting, I have not much experience on it.
Best regards,
Jeffrey Tan
Microsoft Online Partner Support
Get Secure! -
www.microsoft.com/security
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| From: "Timothy Shih" <ts***@sensicast.com>
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| Subject: Re: Client causing remotable application to freeze
| Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 09:08:08 -0400
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| Hi Jeffrey, I have no clue why this happens. The exact message i get is :
| The type System.Threading.Thread in Assembly mscorlib, Version=1.0.5000.0,
| Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089 is not marked as
| serializable.
|
| This may be due to some other underlying problem, but I am not sure what
it
| is. I solved the issue by making the class inherit from
MarshalByRefObject,
| I am not sure if this is the best solution.
|
| Thanks for your help!
| Tim
|
| "Jeffrey Tan[MSFT]" <v-*****@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| news:xH**************@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl...
| >
| > Hi Timothy,
| >
| > I do not quite undertand why the client class object can not be
| serialized.
| > Why the object contains several thread object so it can not be
serialized?
| > I have created a class object whose constructor contains some thread
| > object,
| > but I succeeded serialize this class object.
| >
| > Best regards,
| > Jeffrey Tan
| > Microsoft Online Partner Support
| > Get Secure! -
www.microsoft.com/security
| > This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no
rights.
| >
| > --------------------
| > | From: "Timothy Shih" <ts***@sensicast.com>
| > | References: <O5*************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>
| > <NE**************@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl>
| > <uq**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>
| > <E2**************@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl>
| > <#v**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>
| > <8p**************@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl>
| > | Subject: Re: Client causing remotable application to freeze
| > | Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:35:55 -0400
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| > |
| > | Hi Jeffrey,
| > |
| > | Yes, I have resolved the issue, I am able to initialize a remotable
| object
| > | through another remotable object. I was attempting to pass a reference
| to
| > | the remotable object to a separate class and have that class
initialize
| > it,
| > | but that led to the freeze. By intializing all remotable objects that
a
| > | given remotable object depends (within that constructor) it does not
| > matter
| > | which order the objects are initialized since each one initializes all
| of
| > | them. Thanks for your help on this issue, and sorry for not updating
| you!
| > |
| > | In any case, I have encountered a separate problem and I am not sure
if
| > you
| > | may be of help. In particular, I would like to be notified when an
event
| > | occurs within a remotable objects. However, the object to be notified
is
| > NOT
| > | remotable, and furthermore, cannot be marked as serializable. This is
| > | because it contains several threads (System.Threading objects). It
seems
| > | that when I attempt to pass a delegate to the remotable class the
| compiler
| > | complains by saying that System.Threading is not marked as
serializable.
| > | Essentially, this class handles requests from a network layer such
(both
| > | RS232 and TCP). The remotable class handles requests from a client
(over
| > TCP
| > | or HTTP). when an event occurs in the remotable class, I would like
the
| > | network object to be notified.
| > |
| > | I have attempted to solve the problem by creating a separate
| > | "SerializableEventHandler" class which handles events from the
remotable
| > | object and then passes the event down to the network layer, but it
still
| > | complains about the network object not being serializable
(essentially I
| > | added another link to an already broken chain). If you have any way or
| > idea
| > | of getting a remotable object to notify a non-remotable,
| non-serializable
| > | object of an event (or event making threads serializable!) I would be
| very
| > | grateful!
| > |
| > | Thanks again,
| > | Tim
| > |
| > | "Jeffrey Tan[MSFT]" <v-*****@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | news:8p**************@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl...
| > | >
| > | > Hi Timothy,
| > | >
| > | > Does your project work?
| > | > If it still does not work, can you show me more information?
| > | > I have asked you some questions in last articles, please check it.
| > | >
| > | > Thanks
| > | > Best regards,
| > | > Jeffrey Tan
| > | > Microsoft Online Partner Support
| > | > Get Secure! -
www.microsoft.com/security
| > | > This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no
| > rights.
| > | >
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| > | > | From: "Timothy Shih" <ts***@sensicast.com>
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| > | > <NE**************@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl>
| > | > <uq**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>
| > | > <E2**************@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl>
| > | > | Subject: Re: Client causing remotable application to freeze
| > | > | Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:13:38 -0400
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| > | microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp:180627
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| > | > |
| > | > | Hi Jeffrey,
| > | > |
| > | > | Yes that is basically my problem the way you described it.My first
| > | > solution
| > | > | was the one that you suggested (activate the objects from the
| > | dependencies
| > | > | constructor). However, when i did that, my application caused
itself
| > to
| > | > | freeze indefinitely, (in other words, I am attempting to have one
| > | > remotable
| > | > | object activate another remotable object and this causes it to
| > freeze).
| > | So
| > | > | in order to solve that, i created a temp client to activate the
| > objects.
| > | > To
| > | > | instantiate the class I am simply calling Activator.GetObject()
and
| > then
| > | > | calling a Ping() method to force the singleton object to
| instantiate.
| > If
| > | > | there is another methods to instantiate a remotable objects within
| > | another
| > | > | remotable object perhaps I will try to instantiate the the class
| from
| > | > within
| > | > | the dependency's constructor.
| > | > |
| > | > | Thanks for your help!
| > | > | Tim
| > | > | "Jeffrey Tan[MSFT]" <v-*****@online.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
| > | > | news:E2**************@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl...
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Hi Timothy,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Thank you for your information.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Base on my understanding, your activation mode is server side
| > sington.
| > | > | > And your problem seemed related to the class dependency.
| > | > | > I will simulate your problem:
| > | > | > You have class A,B,C in server side.
| > | > | > A has some variables refering instances of B and C, so before
| > | initialize
| > | > | > object A, you must
| > | > | > initialize B and C from client side.
| > | > | > So you created a temp client and initialize objects as order B C
| A.
| > | > | > But during your initialization, if another client connects your
| > server
| > | > and
| > | > | > wants to use object A,
| > | > | > you application will freeze(Because your objects B and C have
not
| > been
| > | > | > initialized).
| > | > | >
| > | > | > I think the workaround is putting your initialization of
objects B
| > and
| > | C
| > | > | in
| > | > | > the constructor of A, then
| > | > | > your temp client is no need and the problem will not arise.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > If I misunderstand your meanning, please feel free to let me
know.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Best regards,
| > | > | > Jeffrey Tan
| > | > | > Microsoft Online Partner Support
| > | > | > Get Secure! -
www.microsoft.com/security
| > | > | > This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers
no
| > | > rights.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --------------------
| > | > | > | From: "Timothy Shih" <ts***@sensicast.com>
| > | > | > | References: <O5*************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>
| > | > | > <NE**************@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl>
| > | > | > | Subject: Re: Client causing remotable application to freeze
| > | > | > | Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 08:59:44 -0400
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| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Hi Jeffrey,
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | No, I don't get any exception as it just hangs indefinitely.
| > | > Eventually
| > | > | I
| > | > | > | just end the process and restart it. What I do is register the
| > | > objects,
| > | > | > but
| > | > | > | I do not want the client to initialize it. Therefore I spoof a
| > | client
| > | > | and
| > | > | > | ping all the remotable objects on startup so that I can
| initialize
| > | > them
| > | > | in
| > | > | > | the correct order (one of the objects is necessary for all of
| the
| > | > other
| > | > | > ones
| > | > | > | to run). Basically, i need to create an instance of each of
the
| > | > objects
| > | > | > | before an actual client can attempt to access them. However,
the
| > | > problem
| > | > | > | comes when a client attempts to access the objects as I am
| > | initalizing
| > | > | > them
| > | > | > | (thereby disrupting the order of initialization). What I would
| > like
| > | is
| > | > | to
| > | > | > be
| > | > | > | able to block client access to the objects until I initialize
| them
| > | on
| > | > my
| > | > | > | end. Thanks!
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Tim
| > | > | > | "Jeffrey Tan[MSFT]" <v-*****@online.microsoft.com> wrote in
| > message
| > | > | > | news:NE**************@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Hi Timothy,
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Thank your for posting in this group.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Do you get any exception from your application?
| > | > | > | > If you get, please show me the exception.
| > | > | > | > The remotable objects will not be initialized until your
| client
| > | > create
| > | > | a
| > | > | > | > instance of it, so what
| > | > | > | > does your initialize mean?
| > | > | > | > Is your connection synchronized or asynchronized?
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Best regards,
| > | > | > | > Jeffrey Tan
| > | > | > | > Microsoft Online Partner Support
| > | > | > | > Get Secure! -
www.microsoft.com/security
| > | > | > | > This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and
| confers
| > no
| > | > | > rights.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --------------------
| > | > | > | > | From: "Timothy Shih" <ts***@sensicast.com>
| > | > | > | > | Subject: Client causing remotable application to freeze
| > | > | > | > | Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:26:00 -0400
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| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Hi,
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | I am having a freezing issue with my application. My
| > application
| > | > | > serves
| > | > | > | > | several remotable objects, all of which must be
initialized
| > | before
| > | > | > their
| > | > | > | > | use. Furthermore, some of them depend on each other. On my
| > | > | application
| > | > | > | > | startup, I configure the objects usting the
| > | RemotingConfiguration
| > | > | > class
| > | > | > | to
| > | > | > | > | load the config file. Then I "ping" each of the objects to
| > call
| > | > | their
| > | > | > | > | constructors. This all works fine if no one is attempting
to
| > | > connect
| > | > | > at
| > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | time, but if a client application attempts to connect to
my
| > | > | > application
| > | > | > | > | while the startup is happening, both the client and my
| > | application
| > | > | > hang
| > | > | > | > | indefinitely. I am attempting to find a way to block
client
| > | access
| > | > | to
| > | > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | objects before they are initialized, but the channel must
| > exist
| > | > for
| > | > | me
| > | > | > | to
| > | > | > | > | initialize them. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | -Tim
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