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Java finally has a fantastic gui builder

A while ago I evaluated Eclipse vs Visual Studio, and settled on
Visual Studio 2005. Eclipse is better in many ways, but the lack of
a gui builder was the deciding factor. Visual Studio 2005 has an
excellent gui builder. Eclipse doesn't, and in fact, none of the
Java IDEs had a half-decent gui builder. Our apps will have lots of
dialogs, and we didn't waste our careers hand-coding GridBagLayouts.

But the new NetBeans Java IDE has the best gui builder in the world.
From this demo at least, it seems to be ahead of Microsoft's GUI
builder even:

http://www.netbeans.org/files/docume...5/matisse.html

Too late for me though; we are not going back to Java.

Feb 3 '06 #1
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On 3 Feb 2006 09:03:49 -0800, surabhi <su*****@exampl e.com> wrote:
A while ago I evaluated Eclipse vs Visual Studio, and settled on
Visual Studio 2005. Eclipse is better in many ways, but the lack of
a gui builder was the deciding factor. Visual Studio 2005 has an
excellent gui builder. Eclipse doesn't, and in fact, none of the
Java IDEs had a half-decent gui builder. Our apps will have lots of
dialogs, and we didn't waste our careers hand-coding GridBagLayouts.

But the new NetBeans Java IDE has the best gui builder in the world.
From this demo at least, it seems to be ahead of Microsoft's GUI
builder even:

http://www.netbeans.org/files/docume...5/matisse.html

Too late for me though; we are not going back to Java.

What was your question?

Otis Mukinfus
http://www.otismukinfus.com
http://www.tomchilders.com
Feb 4 '06 #2
In article <pk************ *************** *****@4ax.com>, Otis Mukinfus
took the hamburger, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh wow"...
On 3 Feb 2006 09:03:49 -0800, surabhi <su*****@exampl e.com> wrote:
A while ago I evaluated Eclipse vs Visual Studio, and settled on
Visual Studio 2005. Eclipse is better in many ways, but the lack of
a gui builder was the deciding factor. Visual Studio 2005 has an
excellent gui builder. Eclipse doesn't, and in fact, none of the
Java IDEs had a half-decent gui builder. Our apps will have lots of
dialogs, and we didn't waste our careers hand-coding GridBagLayouts.

But the new NetBeans Java IDE has the best gui builder in the world.
From this demo at least, it seems to be ahead of Microsoft's GUI
builder even:

http://www.netbeans.org/files/docume...5/matisse.html

Too late for me though; we are not going back to Java.


What was your question?


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but most of the time all you need is a stick of gum,
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Feb 5 '06 #3
Don't you see? ... he didn't have a question, it was just a ranting whinge
at Java.
Poor soul 'Mukinfus' - even the name adds to the sadness.
"Otis Mukinfus" <ph***@emailadd ress.com> wrote in message
news:pk******** *************** *********@4ax.c om...
On 3 Feb 2006 09:03:49 -0800, surabhi <su*****@exampl e.com> wrote:
A while ago I evaluated Eclipse vs Visual Studio, and settled on
Visual Studio 2005. Eclipse is better in many ways, but the lack of
a gui builder was the deciding factor. Visual Studio 2005 has an
excellent gui builder. Eclipse doesn't, and in fact, none of the
Java IDEs had a half-decent gui builder. Our apps will have lots of
dialogs, and we didn't waste our careers hand-coding GridBagLayouts.

But the new NetBeans Java IDE has the best gui builder in the world.
From this demo at least, it seems to be ahead of Microsoft's GUI
builder even:

http://www.netbeans.org/files/docume...5/matisse.html

Too late for me though; we are not going back to Java.

What was your question?

Otis Mukinfus
http://www.otismukinfus.com
http://www.tomchilders.com

Feb 5 '06 #4
Personally, I am interested in what is going on in the Java world, and so is
Microsoft. Although I am not a Java developer, only .Net, it is important to
keep up with what is going on in the rest of the development community. I
don't see the need to disparage anyone for posting relevant information
about the competition.

I love Microsoft. However, although I am an American, I recently bought a
Toyota. Why? Because only by competing will American industry remain strong.
I bought the best car for my requirements: a good balance of fuel
efficiency, performance, reliability, and price. When America makes a car as
good, for the same price, I will buy from an American company. That's what
is good for America. American automobile manufacturers should learn from the
Japanese. And Microsoft does learn from Sun. Sun learns from Microsoft. And
we all benefit from all of it.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Who is Mighty Abbott?
A twin turret scalawag.

Feb 5 '06 #5
Kevin Spencer wrote:
Personally, I am interested in what is going on in the Java world, and so is
Microsoft. Although I am not a Java developer, only .Net, it is important to
keep up with what is going on in the rest of the development community. I
don't see the need to disparage anyone for posting relevant information
about the competition.
agreed, I too found this an interesting piece of information.
I love Microsoft. However, although I am an American, I recently bought a
Toyota. Why? Because only by competing will American industry remain strong.
I bought the best car for my requirements: a good balance of fuel
efficiency, performance, reliability, and price. When America makes a car as
good, for the same price, I will buy from an American company. That's what
is good for America. American automobile manufacturers should learn from the
Japanese. And Microsoft does learn from Sun. Sun learns from Microsoft. And
we all benefit from all of it.

well said!

Esmail
Feb 6 '06 #6

Kevin Spencer wrote:
I love Microsoft.


Do you have much experience developing software for any non-Microsoft
operating system?

Feb 6 '06 #7
| But the new NetBeans Java IDE has the best gui builder in the world.
| From this demo at least, it seems to be ahead of Microsoft's GUI
| builder even:

Your willing to give it that distinction based on a short video demo?
Feb 6 '06 #8
Otis Mukinfus <ph***@emailadd ress.com> writes:
What was your question?


Since when did Usenet news articles have to include a question? This
isn't rec.humor.oracl e.
Feb 6 '06 #9
On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 08:20:48 -0500, "Kevin Spencer"
<ke***@DIESPAMM ERSDIEtakempis. com> wrote:
Personally, I am interested in what is going on in the Java world, and so is
Microsoft. Although I am not a Java developer, only .Net, it is important to
keep up with what is going on in the rest of the development community. I
don't see the need to disparage anyone for posting relevant information
about the competition.

I love Microsoft. However, although I am an American, I recently bought a
Toyota. Why? Because only by competing will American industry remain strong.
I bought the best car for my requirements: a good balance of fuel
efficiency, performance, reliability, and price. When America makes a car as
good, for the same price, I will buy from an American company. That's what
is good for America. American automobile manufacturers should learn from the
Japanese. And Microsoft does learn from Sun. Sun learns from Microsoft. And
we all benefit from all of it.


Respectfully, this may be true, but this is a group dedicated to
understanding C#. Isn't the subject better served in a Java advocate
group or some other forum. It does little to further our
understanding of C#. In that same vein one could say Borland beat the
NetBeans people with their JBuilder. Borland had, maybe still has, one
of the leading IDEs for GUI building of all time, in all the languages
they support.

Ken Wilson
Seeking viable employment in Victoria, BC
Feb 7 '06 #10

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