Master Pages or Frames

[Kojikabutosv]

I have to developer a site like the CRM of Microsoft (the user
interface), my original idea was do it with frames but, other friends
said me that not is correct, my site is as a template (header,left
menu,footer).

Wich is the best way to do it with master pages or frames, i'm trying
not load the menu in all pages.

Sorry my bad english!!!!

Thanks for you time,

Regards,

[Mark Rae [MVP]]

"Kojikabutosv" <ko**********@gmail.comwrote in message
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Which is the best way to do it with master pages or frames

Whichever is the more appropriate architecture for your web app.

Incidentally, MasterPages are not somehow the ASP.NET equivalent of
framesets. The two are not remotely similar - this is very common
misconception... A MasterPage is nothing more than a UserControl.

I'm trying not to load the menu in all pages.

Why?
--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

[Kojikabutosv]

>

>I'm trying not to load the menu in all pages.

Why?

Thanks Mark for you time.

Actually, I'm starting in ASP.NET, and i'm sorry if my questions are basics.

About of the menu, Do you see the Microsoft CRM ? in this app, the menu
is not loaded in all pages only at the beginning and then load each page
(on the rigth side) of each link of the menu.

Thanks again!!!!

Jorge Díaz

[Mark Rae [MVP]]

"Kojikabutosv" <ko**********@gmail.comwrote in message
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>>I'm trying not to load the menu in all pages.

Why?

Thanks Mark for you time.

Actually, I'm starting in ASP.NET, and i'm sorry if my questions are
basics.

About of the menu, Do you see the Microsoft CRM?

Yes.

in this app, the menu is not loaded in all pages

Assuming you're looking at the latest version, then I think you'll find that
it is...

As mentioned previously, a MasterPage is a UserControl - it doesn't simulate
an HTML frameset. Like all UserControls, a MasterPage is loaded every time
its parent page (which, in this case, is a content page) is loaded. That's
the way MasterPages work. I understand fully that the term "MasterPage"
causes confusion - IMO, Microsoft should have named them something like
LayoutControls...

So, to reiterate, if you want framesets in ASP.NET, MasterPages won't help
you. But in ASP.NET, especially with the advent of AJAX, framesets simply
aren't required...
--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

[my cats, Gag and yak]

regarding frames, in 2.0 or more recent, does each frame have it's own
session? If yes, then how to get around that?
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"Kojikabutosv" <ko**********@gmail.comwrote in message
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>>>I'm trying not to load the menu in all pages.

Why?

Thanks Mark for you time.

Actually, I'm starting in ASP.NET, and i'm sorry if my questions are
basics.

About of the menu, Do you see the Microsoft CRM?

Yes.

>in this app, the menu is not loaded in all pages

Assuming you're looking at the latest version, then I think you'll find
that it is...

As mentioned previously, a MasterPage is a UserControl - it doesn't
simulate an HTML frameset. Like all UserControls, a MasterPage is loaded
every time its parent page (which, in this case, is a content page) is
loaded. That's the way MasterPages work. I understand fully that the term
"MasterPage" causes confusion - IMO, Microsoft should have named them
something like LayoutControls...

So, to reiterate, if you want framesets in ASP.NET, MasterPages won't help
you. But in ASP.NET, especially with the advent of AJAX, framesets simply
aren't required...
--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

[Mark Rae [MVP]]

"my cats, Gag and yak" <mr********@comcast.netwrote in message
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[top-posting corrected]

regarding frames, in 2.0 or more recent, does each frame have it's own
session? If yes, then how to get around that?

Don't use frames - they're not needed in ASP.NET.

Or, if you really can't get your head round that and absolutely must use
framesets:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323752
--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

[kojikabutosv]

Thank you Mark and Gag and Yak, i'm appreciate your time for helpme

Regards,

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[top-posting corrected]

>regarding frames, in 2.0 or more recent, does each frame have it's own
session? If yes, then how to get around that?

Don't use frames - they're not needed in ASP.NET.

Or, if you really can't get your head round that and absolutely must use
framesets:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323752
--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

[Steve C. Orr [MCSD, MVP, CSM, ASP Insider]]

I'd suggest you go with Master Pages. (Framesets tend to come with a whole
host of other problems you'd probably need to solve once you get into it.)

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I hope this helps,
Steve C. Orr,
MCSD, MVP, CSM, ASPInsider
http://SteveOrr.net
http://iPhonePlaza.net
"Kojikabutosv" <ko**********@gmail.comwrote in message
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>I have to developer a site like the CRM of Microsoft (the user interface),
my original idea was do it with frames but, other friends said me that not
is correct, my site is as a template (header,left menu,footer).

Wich is the best way to do it with master pages or frames, i'm trying not
load the menu in all pages.

Sorry my bad english!!!!

Thanks for you time,

Regards,

[Marc]

my cats, Gag and yak wrote:

regarding frames, in 2.0 or more recent, does each frame have it's own
session?

No. Not if they are on the same server and part of the same ASP.NET app.