473,320 Members | 1,896 Online
Bytes | Software Development & Data Engineering Community
Post Job

Home Posts Topics Members FAQ

Join Bytes to post your question to a community of 473,320 software developers and data experts.

Smart Client

Avi
Hi there,

Sorry, newbie, learning my way around ...

I understand that ASP.Net is built on the assumption that the client
does not run the .net framework, and that when you can assume that the
client does run the framework, you should go the smart client way.

I did a fast "is the buzzword alive" check: The Microsoft smart client
development center is dead, and on Amazon I found just one book on that
subject, and that book is centered on VS 2003.

What gives? What's the new New?

Jun 18 '06 #1
7 1666
V
Hi,

Both Smart Clients and Web apps have their own space depending on your
requirements.

Of course the new "New" is Windows Vista and application running on
Xaml.

But that is some ways away as of now.

- Vaibhav

Avi wrote:
Hi there,

Sorry, newbie, learning my way around ...

I understand that ASP.Net is built on the assumption that the client
does not run the .net framework, and that when you can assume that the
client does run the framework, you should go the smart client way.

I did a fast "is the buzzword alive" check: The Microsoft smart client
development center is dead, and on Amazon I found just one book on that
subject, and that book is centered on VS 2003.

What gives? What's the new New?


Jun 18 '06 #2
Avi
V thanks for answering!

Please clarify: Vista ans Xaml - are they a new "architecture" (as
opposed to specifying the user interface as XML which why should I care
about this, probably handled with tools anyhow)?

ASP: Work on the server, pure XHTML on the client
Smart Client: Work on the client using .Net, interact with the server
(using web services?)
Vista + Xaml???

If it's a new architecture, it might be worth getting into it if it's
stable.

Jun 19 '06 #3
V
Windows Vista is Microsoft's latest Operating System.

For development of applications on Vista, although you can use
WinForms, the new technology is Xaml. It is not so much an
architecture, as it is a development tool, i feel.

Designer support for creating Xaml apps is also some time away (it will
be integrated in the next version of Visual Studio). However, at this
time you can do your Xaml apps by hand.

Why you should care about Xaml is that on the Vista platform, the same
code (i.e. Xaml code) can be used to deploy your application as either
a webapp or a windows app.

And of course, Xaml (or rather Windows Presentation Framework) offers
you the ability to have a very much richer UI API, which in turn means
better looking apps.

Going back to the other two:

ASP.Net - yes, purely server with Xhtml on the client

Smart Client - yes, it would mean logic is on the client, and
communication with server can be through web services, remoting, or a
custom protocol.

A quick note, presence of .net 1.1 framework on client machines is not
a big deal. It is not really a barrier.

Also, once again, it really depends on your application scenario
whether you would want to chose a Smart Client vs a Web Application.
For example, if you wanted to provide an offline mode to your
application, then it may be better to go for a Smart Client...

- V

Avi wrote:
V thanks for answering!

Please clarify: Vista ans Xaml - are they a new "architecture" (as
opposed to specifying the user interface as XML which why should I care
about this, probably handled with tools anyhow)?

ASP: Work on the server, pure XHTML on the client
Smart Client: Work on the client using .Net, interact with the server
(using web services?)
Vista + Xaml???

If it's a new architecture, it might be worth getting into it if it's
stable.


Jun 19 '06 #4
Avi
I'd like like part of my application to be a web site, and part of it -
additional functionality - to work on the client and integrate
seamlessly with the web site.

When you develop a vista application, is ASP.Net 2.0 relevant? How can
an application run on the web the same as it runs on the client (e.g.
consider the state and connected/disconnected mode issues)? How does
this correlate to Atlas (which I've heard claims the same "develop for
both the server and client").

Is there some "new architecture overview" out there that explains all
this stuff?

Jun 20 '06 #5
V
Although, I would like to answer all your questions... but I am afraid
I don't know a lot of these answers myself.

You can read up on www.msdn.com for a lot of these technologies.

Asp.Net 2.0 is independent of Vista.

Sorry, for such short answers.

- Vaibhav
Avi wrote:
I'd like like part of my application to be a web site, and part of it -
additional functionality - to work on the client and integrate
seamlessly with the web site.

When you develop a vista application, is ASP.Net 2.0 relevant? How can
an application run on the web the same as it runs on the client (e.g.
consider the state and connected/disconnected mode issues)? How does
this correlate to Atlas (which I've heard claims the same "develop for
both the server and client").

Is there some "new architecture overview" out there that explains all
this stuff?


Jun 20 '06 #6
Vaibhav,

Thank you for your answers, you have help me clarify my question :-)
I'm posting a new thread.

Avi

Jun 21 '06 #7
V
Avi,

I have responded on your other thread as well :D.

- Vaibhav
bm*****@gmail.com wrote:
Vaibhav,

Thank you for your answers, you have help me clarify my question :-)
I'm posting a new thread.

Avi


Jun 23 '06 #8

This thread has been closed and replies have been disabled. Please start a new discussion.

Similar topics

27
by: Susan Baker | last post by:
Hi, I'm just reading about smart pointers.. I have some existing C code that I would like to provide wrapper classes for. Specifically, I would like to provide wrappers for two stucts defined...
6
by: Shankar | last post by:
Hello, We have a smart pointer class which provides the dereference operator -> to access the underlying object pointer. Now, we have a new requirement where a different type of object (e.g from...
3
by: Marc Gravell | last post by:
Kind of an open question on best-practice for smart-client design. I'd really appreciate anyones views (preferably with reasoning, but I'll take what I get...). Or if anybody has any useful links...
2
by: Jeff | last post by:
Please note this is NOT a rant or complaint! And yes, I'm over-simplifying, but intentionally. Here goes... With ASP.NET Web applications I like that I can access data from anywhere without...
1
by: HM | last post by:
Hi, I have an existing web application in ASP/VB which uses OCX controls. I want to replace them with a Smart client solution, but I do not want to change the whole application at the first go....
3
by: jack | last post by:
HI all im have heard little of smart client and wanted to implement it .. is there any one who could help me with some example or some explanation of smart client please . Thanks for replying me.
10
by: Pieter Coucke | last post by:
Hi, What's in general the most performant for a VB.NET Windows Forms (2.0) application: - a fat client (everything one the client, the server hosts only the database) - a smart client (an...
1
by: Rasheed | last post by:
We are building a smart client application (.NET 2.0) which uses Web Services to access the business objects. Services: The Web Services have been secured by brokered authentication using X509...
4
by: Ronald S. Cook | last post by:
What is Smart Client Software Factory and how does it related to/fit in with Composite UI Application Block (CAB)? Thanks, Ron
0
by: Ekart Laszlo | last post by:
Hi, there We have currently a Java Applet based solution that we would like to rewrite to a .NET solution. The scenario is the following: 1. Starter Client application opens up a web browser...
0
by: ryjfgjl | last post by:
ExcelToDatabase: batch import excel into database automatically...
0
isladogs
by: isladogs | last post by:
The next Access Europe meeting will be on Wednesday 6 Mar 2024 starting at 18:00 UK time (6PM UTC) and finishing at about 19:15 (7.15PM). In this month's session, we are pleased to welcome back...
0
by: Vimpel783 | last post by:
Hello! Guys, I found this code on the Internet, but I need to modify it a little. It works well, the problem is this: Data is sent from only one cell, in this case B5, but it is necessary that data...
0
by: jfyes | last post by:
As a hardware engineer, after seeing that CEIWEI recently released a new tool for Modbus RTU Over TCP/UDP filtering and monitoring, I actively went to its official website to take a look. It turned...
1
by: PapaRatzi | last post by:
Hello, I am teaching myself MS Access forms design and Visual Basic. I've created a table to capture a list of Top 30 singles and forms to capture new entries. The final step is a form (unbound)...
0
by: Defcon1945 | last post by:
I'm trying to learn Python using Pycharm but import shutil doesn't work
1
by: Shællîpôpï 09 | last post by:
If u are using a keypad phone, how do u turn on JavaScript, to access features like WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram....
0
by: af34tf | last post by:
Hi Guys, I have a domain whose name is BytesLimited.com, and I want to sell it. Does anyone know about platforms that allow me to list my domain in auction for free. Thank you
0
isladogs
by: isladogs | last post by:
The next Access Europe User Group meeting will be on Wednesday 3 Apr 2024 starting at 18:00 UK time (6PM UTC+1) and finishing by 19:30 (7.30PM). In this session, we are pleased to welcome former...

By using Bytes.com and it's services, you agree to our Privacy Policy and Terms of Use.

To disable or enable advertisements and analytics tracking please visit the manage ads & tracking page.